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  • Reasons for your siding regarding the Israely and Palestine/Hamas Conflict?

    @Factfinder

    In all fairness @Joseph is actually addressing things I said and has the decency to quote me whereby other people can decide for themselves if any misrepresntation is present or not, unlike @Bogan

    I really don't know what is so hard to understand by this:

    "Hamas is a terrorist organzation as also stated internationally and must be dealth with accordingly. Israel has commited actions that are in violation of international law." 

    @Bogan I will do my best now to explain this to you in as simple terms as possible:

    Imagine you have two groups who are not getting along because they both want the same thing but can't agree on how to share it or who it belongs to. One group, called Hamas, has done things that many people and countries around the world think are very bad, like not playing fair or safe, which has led these people and countries to call them a "bad group." Because of this, these people and countries think this group needs to be stopped or taught to play nicely.

    The other group, called Israel, has also done things that some people and countries think are not okay, like not following the rules of a big, important rulebook that everyone is supposed to play by.

    So, both groups have done things that others think are wrong, and people are trying to figure out how to make them get along or at least not hurt each other. Comprende? 

    @Factfinder

    Maybe you could help me out with @Bogan because I don't know how to make this any more simpler. I will not be surprised if he still interprets this to mean that I am rooting for a terrorist organization. What I have actually wrote above is an exlanation that is designed for 5 year olds but I am guessing that is not going to make much of a difference. 

    At least @Joseph is not outright lying about what I have said. Not that I have yet noticed anyway. I have tried to be nice with Bogan here as I do feel a bit guilty of my behaviour when he first entered into this site a year or so back; I was bit of A-whole then in how I could and should have engaged in civil discourse at that time regarding that debate. However, my patience now is wearing thin.

    FactfinderJoeseph
  • The Trump Challenge: Will you accept?

    As far as we know, Trump has not had sex with raccoons.
    ZeusAres42
  • Reasons for your siding regarding the Israely and Palestine/Hamas Conflict?

    The essential point that both of you are avoiding, is that we live in a world today where the productive people are always the oppressors, and the most despicable and crazy people are always the victims.

    In no way is Israel the aggressor here.    They are productive and honourable people with a lot of friends among the decent and productive people of this world.    Zeus's condemnation of Israel is not some genuine concern for moral values.   It is the usual double standard where his particular elitist class can display their supposed moral and Intellectual superiority, and more importantly, their class affiliation.

    This is the way that this new elitist caste always thinks, and it is going to destroy the very civilisation which they prefer to live in.    This kind of thinking has already ruined some of the greatest cities in the world.   Paris is not Paris any more.  London is not London any more.    And San Francisco is not San Francisco any more.     It is now obvious to even the most feeble minded lefty that some ethnicities make much better immigrants than others.   And the Leftist idea of Defund the Police and No Bail Bond has made some Leftist cities now anarchic.

    Turn away from the Dark Side, Factfinder.     Support the productive and decent people of this world and stop blaming them for the dysfunctions of every low IQ, violent race and culture on the planet.    The Israeli people are productive people and even though their country lacks any natural resources, it is rich in one resource that really counts.    They are intelligent and they work hard.   And, they just wish to be left alone in peace.

    The Muslims however, to me are worse than the Nazis.    And if they will not stop attacking Israel, then I really do not care what measures the Israelis take to eliminate the terrorists who will never stop plotting their complete extermination.    Complaining about that is like a privileged person in some leafy beach side suburb complaining about how the police in crime filled ghettoes enforce the law.

    JulesKorngoldZeusAres42
  • Reasons for your siding regarding the Israely and Palestine/Hamas Conflict?

    @ZeusAres42

    To me it seems obvious Israel is right to go after the enemy that launched the Oct. 7 attacks and promised to continue to do so. I don't know if you read this short synopsis I posted:  https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/177951/#Comment_177951 But the cry for Israel's destruction comes at her from all directions. Simply because Israel exist as a people. What I will add is no one is completely right as far as tactics are concerned and applied, but it is the terrorist groups, hamas, isis, or their backers, Iran, whoever, that strategically put civilians on the battle field. As a civilized species we can't let that mentality prevail. Israel is doing what it needs to survive and nobody offers a better, realistic alternative. 
    JoesephZeusAres42BoganMasterdebater
  • Is there ever a way to change the mindset of someone who doesn't want to learn?

    From the Gemini chatbot:

    Changing someone's mind is tricky! It's less about forcing your view and more about planting a seed of doubt and guiding them to see things differently. Here are some key strategies:

    • Be respectful and listen actively: People are more receptive to new ideas when they feel heard and understood. Pay attention to their perspective and ask questions to get a deeper understanding.
    • Find common ground: Start by acknowledging areas where you agree. This builds trust and shows you're not just trying to win an argument.
    • Focus on understanding, not winning: Approach the conversation with a genuine curiosity about their viewpoint. This shift in mindset can make a big difference.
    • Present your arguments thoughtfully: Use clear, concise language and back your claims with evidence. Focus on the strengths of your position rather than attacking theirs.
    • Ask open-ended questions: These encourage the person to think critically about their own beliefs and open them up to new possibilities.
    • Be patient and open-minded: Changing minds takes time. Don't expect someone to be swayed overnight. Be open to the possibility that you might learn something too.


    Masterdebater
  • I hate Trump, but it's Biden who's committing genocide on the Palestinians.

    @jack
    How would you prevent another October 7?
    FactfinderMasterdebater
  • I hate Trump, but it's Biden who's committing genocide on the Palestinians.

    Hi Jack.   I am certain that the Jews are disgusted at you for being a Jew.    And Americans wish you weren't an American either.  
    jackreagonMasterdebater
  • I hate Trump, but it's Biden who's committing genocide on the Palestinians.

    @jack If you think there really is a genocide going on in Gaza then dont vote for anyone because Trump is going to be more pro Isreal 
    Ps: Isreal is in the right 
    let me know if u wanna debate anymore?
    FactfinderZeusAres42Masterdebater
  • Reasons for your siding regarding the Israely and Palestine/Hamas Conflict?

    @Factfinder ;

    My post was more directed at Zeus than you, Factfinder.    But both of you seem to critical of the way in which Israel is dems trying the enemies who want to exterminate them.

    I don't know about you, but if somebody wants to exterminate me and my family, I am not going to be too concerned about him or his family.


    ZeusAres42
  • Reasons for your siding regarding the Israely and Palestine/Hamas Conflict?

    @Bogan

    I have in no way condemned Israel. Acknowledging the reality of the unconventional dynamics of this war has to be talked about openly if we are ever going to get rid of groups like Hamas. Or suppress the people supporting them who are profiteering from the situation. Extreme positions do not help anything. That said I have always maintained Israel is was the one attacked and Hamas was the aggressor. And before Hamas other terrorist groups, before them the nations surrounding them including Palestinian Arabs who settled along her borders. With few exceptions has Palestine ever sighted with Israel.

    So you will have to show me where I said Israel is the aggressor. 
    ZeusAres42

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