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  • Repentance and salvation is not for all nations

    During slavery, white or European Christians stole, took away, changed and added to the word of God, then taught the black, Native American and Latin slaves their religion (the Christian religion) and their interpretation of a book that did not and still does not belong to them (i.e., the Bible). Today, those false teachings are still being taught world wide. Religion teaches that repentance and salvation is for all nations; for all those who accept the new Jesus (the white Jesus, and yes color does matter) into their hearts. However, what exactly is repentance, can all nations repent according to the Scriptures, and how can all nations be saved? 

    My opponent must be religious and believe in the teaching that all nations can be saved.

    Use biblical evidence and/or evidence that relates to the Scriptures, to support your claims, ideas, statements, and/or opinions. 
    Royalty
  • I actually think I understand Flat Earth Theory. Understanding isn't concluding.

    @EmeryPearson It's an inter-plantery (plane not planet) group that run across all nine planes (mercury to pluto)
    Pluto's not a planet. 
    This always gets ignored by you guys.

    Here do this test at home but make sure you have a clear view.

    Best o, experiment 3. Watch the sunset lying down

    As detailed by the folks at MinutePhysics, the horizon is one of the easiest ways to validate the Earth’s curvature. As the sun dips behind the horizon, it slips from your view in a bottom-up direction. If you watch the sunset while lying on your back, and then hop up as the last rays disappear, then you should be able to see the sunset again.

    The same pattern applies to ships as they sail away — their hulls disappear from the bottom up. As MinutePhysics points out, if the Earth didn’t curve and the horizon didn’t exist, when you looked at Chicago from across Lake Michigan, you’d be able to see the Rocky Mountains.

    These prove Earth's curvature:

    1. Look at eclipses

    Lunar Eclipse GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Every once in a while, the Earth passes between the Moon and the Sun, creating a phenomenon known as the Lunar Eclipse.

    The Earth casts a shadow on the Moon as it passes through so if you look closely enough (a decent telescope should do it), you might be able to see a shaded arc. It’s always an arc and never a square or a rectangle.

    2. Send a camera into space

    Animated GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Companies like Sent Into Space have special balloon kits that allow you to send whatever you like into space and back. Look at this, a guy sent a camera to space and the Earth is round:  https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/homemade-spacecraft-reaches-100000-ft-films-the-whole-way-1287792/.

    3. Watch the sun go over the horizon while lying down, then quickly stand up

    If you watch the sunset lying down, you’ll find it disappears in the horizon. But if you stand up, you should still be able to see the sun as it sets on the distant horizon.

    And if you happen to be at the ocean looking at ships, they will appear to emerge from the ocean – in a bottom-up direction. This is possible only because the ocean follows the curvature of the Earth and gradually drops from our line of sight.

    If the earth was flat the water would stay at the same level.

    4. The stars

    If you go to a different part of the world, you’ll notice the constellations there are completely different.

    A phenomenon first observed by Aristotle many, many years ago when he was returning from Egypt, the premise is the further you go away from the equator the further known constellations go towards the horizon.

    This phenomenon can only be explained by a round surface.

    Aristotle also concluded the Earth wasn’t very large because a small change in the distance makes a huge difference in terms of what we see in the night sky.

    In the flat Earth model, you could not see the same constellations and stars in S.A. and Africa (or S.A. and Australia or Africa and Australia) (the two will both be night) because you would only be able to see the front. Also, the stars that are only able to see in the Northern Hemisphere would be visible in the South.

    Globe:

     

    Flat:

    5. Time zones

    Time Zones GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Our planet is divided into 24 time zones, this is taking into account the position of the Sun and the Earth's rotation. The Sun isn’t visible to everyone at the same time.

    But that wouldn’t be the case if the Earth was flat. If the Sun shone directionally on a flat Earth, we would be able to see at all times.

    So basically, the only way these timezones can happen is if the world is spherical.

    time zones

    We have time zones because when the Sun is illuminating one side of the spherical Earth, the other side is dark.

    This can only be explained if the world is round, and rotating around its own axis. At a certain point when the sun is shining on one part of the Earth, the opposite side is dark, and vice versa. That allows for time differences and time zones, specifically ones that are larger than 12 hours.

    Another point concerning time zones, the sun, and Earth: If the sun was a “spotlight” (very directionally located so that light only shines on a specific location) and the world was flat, we would see the sun even if it didn’t shine on top of us (as you can see in the drawing below). Similarly, you can see the light coming out of a spotlight on a stage in the theater, even though you—the crowd—are sitting in the dark. The only way to create two distinctly separate time zones, where there is complete darkness in one while there’s light in the other as if the world is spherical.

    debunking the sun as spotlight theory

    Before I get into it, I want to say two things, on the top of the Burj Kalfa the sun sets 2 minutes later than the bottom. Also, if you do not have a model, you can not know if the flat Earth explains what happens.

     

    I guess I will start and since you guys did not debunk these yet I will repost them.

    There are so many more ways you can prove to yourself the Earth is round. You can see more things the higher up you are. Long suspension bridges’ towers slope slightly away from one another to account for the curvature of the Earth. Every other planet is a spinning sphere. Satellites exist (as proven by the existence of your iPhone), and obey rules that only work if they’re orbiting around Earth. We’ve taken many, many pictures of Earth. Buy a weather balloon and strap a camera to it.

     

    Satellites have to exist for the internet to work. The TV would not be here without relativity which involves gravity. The ISS exists because you can clearly see it if it goes above your location. You can easily watch the youtube live stream from the ISS.

     

    Hurricanes, cyclones, and typhoons are all the same thing: Spinning masses of air sucking moisture from the ocean, dumping it back on us and destroying things in their path. A hurricane is just a giant wind drain—a low-pressure center with winds flushing into it. The wind always blows counter-clockwise inwards in Northern Hemisphere hurricanes—check out this picture of Hurricane Katrina and the United States. Notice the direction the wind is traveling with a compass, depending on where the Hurricane is.

    However, in the Southern Hemisphere, the wind travels the opposite direction. Here’s a picture of Hurricane Catarina, a very rare Southern Hemisphere Atlantic Hurricane:

    Notice that Catarina is very clearly spinning in the opposite direction. That’s because of the Coriolis effect—the wind changes direction as the planet spins. If the Earth wasn’t spinning, the wind should blow straight into the middle of the hurricane from all directions. But the Earth spins faster at the equator than at the poles, because our planet’s midsection has the furthest distance to travel with each rotation. Winds traveling northwards or southwards curve as they travel from slower spinning to faster spinning regions of the planet. The wind carves the opposite direction based on whether you are above or below the equator since the Earth’s rotation gets slower on alternate sides.

    You can recreate this by spinning a basketball on your finger, and moving a marker from the bottom up or the top down—notice what the line looks like above and below the middle of the ball.

    Okay, let’s try to explain all that with a flat Earth. If Earth was a giant spinning plate with the North Pole at its center, all hurricanes should spin in the same direction and should have a much more spiral shape the further south (i.e., away from the center) you head. You could maybe slow down the spins further from the center of the spinning plate, but then you should see the continents ripping apart from the different speeds. It just doesn’t make any sense.

    Look at this, a guy sent a camera to space and the Earth is round:  https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/homemade-spacecraft-reaches-100000-ft-films-the-whole-way-1287792/.

    The video proves why the Coriolis effect is real and is dictated by hemisphere. The important parts are from 1:44-5:35. It has a controlled experiment. In the end, it explains why there is a difference between hemispheres. It works because it does. To understand this, think of a pool at the geographic poles. It is stationary relative to Earth, but every sidereal day, it is actually completing one full rotation. The part further away from the pole and closer to the equator move faster because it has to complete a larger movement in the same amount of time (that is why rockets are launched closer to the equator. When the plug is pulled (part of the experiment) everything is moving toward the drain in the middle. The far side is faster so it gets ahead while the slower part is too slow so it lags behind.

    Edit: The video was a picture by accident because I copied and pasted my arguments. Here is the video:

    What about these then,

    The critical point here is disappearing OVER the horizon, not disappearing simply because they are small boats that are too small to see. Also, what about the majority of observations? This video claims it is not visible, but

    .

    Shows curve because you can the wake of the boat.

    Also, look at this,


    EmeryPearsonEvidenceAmpersand
  • What is Devil's Tower?

    @Evidence their brains were used to move and sense things. If they were equally smart they'd have killed us off.

    @someone234 that was their whole plan, only it wasn't what God planned, just as it is written in the Bible.
    There is brain and brawn and then there is faith, which Evolution casts aside.

    I was talking about Evolution and "brain size", .. how, now that we have uncovered these giants, evolution is once again proven false.
    Erfisflat
  • I actually think I understand Flat Earth Theory. Understanding isn't concluding.

    Erfisflat said:
    Evidence said:
    Pogue said:
    @EmeryPearson It's an inter-plantery (plane not planet) group that run across all nine planes (mercury to pluto)
    Pluto's not a planet. 
    This always gets ignored by you guys.

    Here do this test at home but make sure you have a clear view.

    Best o, experiment 3. Watch the sunset lying down

    As detailed by the folks at MinutePhysics, the horizon is one of the easiest ways to validate the Earth’s curvature. As the sun dips behind the horizon, it slips from your view in a bottom-up direction. If you watch the sunset while lying on your back, and then hop up as the last rays disappear, then you should be able to see the sunset again.

    The same pattern applies to ships as they sail away — their hulls disappear from the bottom up. As MinutePhysics points out, if the Earth didn’t curve and the horizon didn’t exist, when you looked at Chicago from across Lake Michigan, you’d be able to see the Rocky Mountains.

    These prove Earth's curvature:

    1. Look at eclipses

    Lunar Eclipse GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Every once in a while, the Earth passes between the Moon and the Sun, creating a phenomenon known as the Lunar Eclipse.

    The Earth casts a shadow on the Moon as it passes through so if you look closely enough (a decent telescope should do it), you might be able to see a shaded arc. It’s always an arc and never a square or a rectangle.

    2. Send a camera into space

    Animated GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Companies like Sent Into Space have special balloon kits that allow you to send whatever you like into space and back. Look at this, a guy sent a camera to space and the Earth is round:  https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/homemade-spacecraft-reaches-100000-ft-films-the-whole-way-1287792/.

    3. Watch the sun go over the horizon while lying down, then quickly stand up

    If you watch the sunset lying down, you’ll find it disappears in the horizon. But if you stand up, you should still be able to see the sun as it sets on the distant horizon.

    And if you happen to be at the ocean looking at ships, they will appear to emerge from the ocean – in a bottom-up direction. This is possible only because the ocean follows the curvature of the Earth and gradually drops from our line of sight.

    If the earth was flat the water would stay at the same level.

    4. The stars

    If you go to a different part of the world, you’ll notice the constellations there are completely different.

    A phenomenon first observed by Aristotle many, many years ago when he was returning from Egypt, the premise is the further you go away from the equator the further known constellations go towards the horizon.

    This phenomenon can only be explained by a round surface.

    Aristotle also concluded the Earth wasn’t very large because a small change in the distance makes a huge difference in terms of what we see in the night sky.

    In the flat Earth model, you could not see the same constellations and stars in S.A. and Africa (or S.A. and Australia or Africa and Australia) (the two will both be night) because you would only be able to see the front. Also, the stars that are only able to see in the Northern Hemisphere would be visible in the South.

    Globe:

     

    Flat:

    5. Time zones

    Time Zones GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Our planet is divided into 24 time zones, this is taking into account the position of the Sun and the Earth's rotation. The Sun isn’t visible to everyone at the same time.

    But that wouldn’t be the case if the Earth was flat. If the Sun shone directionally on a flat Earth, we would be able to see at all times.

    So basically, the only way these timezones can happen is if the world is spherical.

    time zones

    We have time zones because when the Sun is illuminating one side of the spherical Earth, the other side is dark.

    This can only be explained if the world is round, and rotating around its own axis. At a certain point when the sun is shining on one part of the Earth, the opposite side is dark, and vice versa. That allows for time differences and time zones, specifically ones that are larger than 12 hours.

    Another point concerning time zones, the sun, and Earth: If the sun was a “spotlight” (very directionally located so that light only shines on a specific location) and the world was flat, we would see the sun even if it didn’t shine on top of us (as you can see in the drawing below). Similarly, you can see the light coming out of a spotlight on a stage in the theater, even though you—the crowd—are sitting in the dark. The only way to create two distinctly separate time zones, where there is complete darkness in one while there’s light in the other as if the world is spherical.

    debunking the sun as spotlight theory

    Before I get into it, I want to say two things, on the top of the Burj Kalfa the sun sets 2 minutes later than the bottom. Also, if you do not have a model, you can not know if the flat Earth explains what happens.

     

    I guess I will start and since you guys did not debunk these yet I will repost them.

    There are so many more ways you can prove to yourself the Earth is round. You can see more things the higher up you are. Long suspension bridges’ towers slope slightly away from one another to account for the curvature of the Earth. Every other planet is a spinning sphere. Satellites exist (as proven by the existence of your iPhone), and obey rules that only work if they’re orbiting around Earth. We’ve taken many, many pictures of Earth. Buy a weather balloon and strap a camera to it.

     

    Satellites have to exist for the internet to work. The TV would not be here without relativity which involves gravity. The ISS exists because you can clearly see it if it goes above your location. You can easily watch the youtube live stream from the ISS.

     

    Hurricanes, cyclones, and typhoons are all the same thing: Spinning masses of air sucking moisture from the ocean, dumping it back on us and destroying things in their path. A hurricane is just a giant wind drain—a low-pressure center with winds flushing into it. The wind always blows counter-clockwise inwards in Northern Hemisphere hurricanes—check out this picture of Hurricane Katrina and the United States. Notice the direction the wind is traveling with a compass, depending on where the Hurricane is.

    However, in the Southern Hemisphere, the wind travels the opposite direction. Here’s a picture of Hurricane Catarina, a very rare Southern Hemisphere Atlantic Hurricane:

    Notice that Catarina is very clearly spinning in the opposite direction. That’s because of the Coriolis effect—the wind changes direction as the planet spins. If the Earth wasn’t spinning, the wind should blow straight into the middle of the hurricane from all directions. But the Earth spins faster at the equator than at the poles, because our planet’s midsection has the furthest distance to travel with each rotation. Winds traveling northwards or southwards curve as they travel from slower spinning to faster spinning regions of the planet. The wind carves the opposite direction based on whether you are above or below the equator since the Earth’s rotation gets slower on alternate sides.

    You can recreate this by spinning a basketball on your finger, and moving a marker from the bottom up or the top down—notice what the line looks like above and below the middle of the ball.

    Okay, let’s try to explain all that with a flat Earth. If Earth was a giant spinning plate with the North Pole at its center, all hurricanes should spin in the same direction and should have a much more spiral shape the further south (i.e., away from the center) you head. You could maybe slow down the spins further from the center of the spinning plate, but then you should see the continents ripping apart from the different speeds. It just doesn’t make any sense.

    Look at this, a guy sent a camera to space and the Earth is round:  https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/homemade-spacecraft-reaches-100000-ft-films-the-whole-way-1287792/.

    The video proves why the Coriolis effect is real and is dictated by hemisphere. The important parts are from 1:44-5:35. It has a controlled experiment. In the end, it explains why there is a difference between hemispheres. It works because it does. To understand this, think of a pool at the geographic poles. It is stationary relative to Earth, but every sidereal day, it is actually completing one full rotation. The part further away from the pole and closer to the equator move faster because it has to complete a larger movement in the same amount of time (that is why rockets are launched closer to the equator. When the plug is pulled (part of the experiment) everything is moving toward the drain in the middle. The far side is faster so it gets ahead while the slower part is too slow so it lags behind.

    Edit: The video was a picture by accident because I copied and pasted my arguments. Here is the video:

    What about these then,

    The critical point here is disappearing OVER the horizon, not disappearing simply because they are small boats that are too small to see. Also, what about the majority of observations? This video claims it is not visible, but

    .

    Shows curve because you can the wake of the boat.

    Also, look at this,



    This is for @someone234 also
    Wow Pogue I have not seen so much misinformation since we started the FE debates. It's not even worth debunking.
    I will ask you only one question, which I already KNOW that you will not answer in laymans terms, but will try to use sci-fi rhetoric, but heck, here it goes anyways:

    With the Globe-Earth you cannot have a Creator God. I don't mean the millions of created gods, but the Only Infinite and Eternal God possible: "I Am", so you are stuck with the next best explanation of the Heaven and the Earth; BB-Evolution.

    OK, so let's start with the Big Bang which you know was invented by a Catholic Jesuit Priest, similar to a Jesuit Priest who wrote the Satanic Bible in one sitting.

    OK, here is your Universe down at a singularity, .. it is getting denser and hotter, .. 

    Q. What medium are you, or any Big Bang scientist imagining this event taking place "in"?
    I think @pogue abandoned the earth theories, maybe the site altogether.

    Oh, I see, thanks @Erfisflat.
    So is there any other Big-bangers here who could defend their stories?

    You know, .. I have been kicked off half a dozen Forums, both Christian and Atheist for asking these two simple questions, as the one above on the BB, .. and on the evolution theory, about the taxonomy of this mysterious creature they call "Common Ancestor" that can split into two or more branches of different species, yet itself is never identified.

    I would love to ask these same questions, in public, both from Dawkins, and his "Origins Project" buddy Lawrence Krauss!?
    Erfisflat
  • I actually think I understand Flat Earth Theory. Understanding isn't concluding.

    Evidence said:
    Erfisflat said:
    Evidence said:
    Pogue said:
    @EmeryPearson It's an inter-plantery (plane not planet) group that run across all nine planes (mercury to pluto)
    Pluto's not a planet. 
    This always gets ignored by you guys.

    Here do this test at home but make sure you have a clear view.

    Best o, experiment 3. Watch the sunset lying down

    As detailed by the folks at MinutePhysics, the horizon is one of the easiest ways to validate the Earth’s curvature. As the sun dips behind the horizon, it slips from your view in a bottom-up direction. If you watch the sunset while lying on your back, and then hop up as the last rays disappear, then you should be able to see the sunset again.

    The same pattern applies to ships as they sail away — their hulls disappear from the bottom up. As MinutePhysics points out, if the Earth didn’t curve and the horizon didn’t exist, when you looked at Chicago from across Lake Michigan, you’d be able to see the Rocky Mountains.

    These prove Earth's curvature:

    1. Look at eclipses

    Lunar Eclipse GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Every once in a while, the Earth passes between the Moon and the Sun, creating a phenomenon known as the Lunar Eclipse.

    The Earth casts a shadow on the Moon as it passes through so if you look closely enough (a decent telescope should do it), you might be able to see a shaded arc. It’s always an arc and never a square or a rectangle.

    2. Send a camera into space

    Animated GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Companies like Sent Into Space have special balloon kits that allow you to send whatever you like into space and back. Look at this, a guy sent a camera to space and the Earth is round:  https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/homemade-spacecraft-reaches-100000-ft-films-the-whole-way-1287792/.

    3. Watch the sun go over the horizon while lying down, then quickly stand up

    If you watch the sunset lying down, you’ll find it disappears in the horizon. But if you stand up, you should still be able to see the sun as it sets on the distant horizon.

    And if you happen to be at the ocean looking at ships, they will appear to emerge from the ocean – in a bottom-up direction. This is possible only because the ocean follows the curvature of the Earth and gradually drops from our line of sight.

    If the earth was flat the water would stay at the same level.

    4. The stars

    If you go to a different part of the world, you’ll notice the constellations there are completely different.

    A phenomenon first observed by Aristotle many, many years ago when he was returning from Egypt, the premise is the further you go away from the equator the further known constellations go towards the horizon.

    This phenomenon can only be explained by a round surface.

    Aristotle also concluded the Earth wasn’t very large because a small change in the distance makes a huge difference in terms of what we see in the night sky.

    In the flat Earth model, you could not see the same constellations and stars in S.A. and Africa (or S.A. and Australia or Africa and Australia) (the two will both be night) because you would only be able to see the front. Also, the stars that are only able to see in the Northern Hemisphere would be visible in the South.

    Globe:

     

    Flat:

    5. Time zones

    Time Zones GIFs - Find  Share on GIPHY

    Our planet is divided into 24 time zones, this is taking into account the position of the Sun and the Earth's rotation. The Sun isn’t visible to everyone at the same time.

    But that wouldn’t be the case if the Earth was flat. If the Sun shone directionally on a flat Earth, we would be able to see at all times.

    So basically, the only way these timezones can happen is if the world is spherical.

    time zones

    We have time zones because when the Sun is illuminating one side of the spherical Earth, the other side is dark.

    This can only be explained if the world is round, and rotating around its own axis. At a certain point when the sun is shining on one part of the Earth, the opposite side is dark, and vice versa. That allows for time differences and time zones, specifically ones that are larger than 12 hours.

    Another point concerning time zones, the sun, and Earth: If the sun was a “spotlight” (very directionally located so that light only shines on a specific location) and the world was flat, we would see the sun even if it didn’t shine on top of us (as you can see in the drawing below). Similarly, you can see the light coming out of a spotlight on a stage in the theater, even though you—the crowd—are sitting in the dark. The only way to create two distinctly separate time zones, where there is complete darkness in one while there’s light in the other as if the world is spherical.

    debunking the sun as spotlight theory

    Before I get into it, I want to say two things, on the top of the Burj Kalfa the sun sets 2 minutes later than the bottom. Also, if you do not have a model, you can not know if the flat Earth explains what happens.

     

    I guess I will start and since you guys did not debunk these yet I will repost them.

    There are so many more ways you can prove to yourself the Earth is round. You can see more things the higher up you are. Long suspension bridges’ towers slope slightly away from one another to account for the curvature of the Earth. Every other planet is a spinning sphere. Satellites exist (as proven by the existence of your iPhone), and obey rules that only work if they’re orbiting around Earth. We’ve taken many, many pictures of Earth. Buy a weather balloon and strap a camera to it.

     

    Satellites have to exist for the internet to work. The TV would not be here without relativity which involves gravity. The ISS exists because you can clearly see it if it goes above your location. You can easily watch the youtube live stream from the ISS.

     

    Hurricanes, cyclones, and typhoons are all the same thing: Spinning masses of air sucking moisture from the ocean, dumping it back on us and destroying things in their path. A hurricane is just a giant wind drain—a low-pressure center with winds flushing into it. The wind always blows counter-clockwise inwards in Northern Hemisphere hurricanes—check out this picture of Hurricane Katrina and the United States. Notice the direction the wind is traveling with a compass, depending on where the Hurricane is.

    However, in the Southern Hemisphere, the wind travels the opposite direction. Here’s a picture of Hurricane Catarina, a very rare Southern Hemisphere Atlantic Hurricane:

    Notice that Catarina is very clearly spinning in the opposite direction. That’s because of the Coriolis effect—the wind changes direction as the planet spins. If the Earth wasn’t spinning, the wind should blow straight into the middle of the hurricane from all directions. But the Earth spins faster at the equator than at the poles, because our planet’s midsection has the furthest distance to travel with each rotation. Winds traveling northwards or southwards curve as they travel from slower spinning to faster spinning regions of the planet. The wind carves the opposite direction based on whether you are above or below the equator since the Earth’s rotation gets slower on alternate sides.

    You can recreate this by spinning a basketball on your finger, and moving a marker from the bottom up or the top down—notice what the line looks like above and below the middle of the ball.

    Okay, let’s try to explain all that with a flat Earth. If Earth was a giant spinning plate with the North Pole at its center, all hurricanes should spin in the same direction and should have a much more spiral shape the further south (i.e., away from the center) you head. You could maybe slow down the spins further from the center of the spinning plate, but then you should see the continents ripping apart from the different speeds. It just doesn’t make any sense.

    Look at this, a guy sent a camera to space and the Earth is round:  https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/homemade-spacecraft-reaches-100000-ft-films-the-whole-way-1287792/.

    The video proves why the Coriolis effect is real and is dictated by hemisphere. The important parts are from 1:44-5:35. It has a controlled experiment. In the end, it explains why there is a difference between hemispheres. It works because it does. To understand this, think of a pool at the geographic poles. It is stationary relative to Earth, but every sidereal day, it is actually completing one full rotation. The part further away from the pole and closer to the equator move faster because it has to complete a larger movement in the same amount of time (that is why rockets are launched closer to the equator. When the plug is pulled (part of the experiment) everything is moving toward the drain in the middle. The far side is faster so it gets ahead while the slower part is too slow so it lags behind.

    Edit: The video was a picture by accident because I copied and pasted my arguments. Here is the video:

    What about these then,

    The critical point here is disappearing OVER the horizon, not disappearing simply because they are small boats that are too small to see. Also, what about the majority of observations? This video claims it is not visible, but

    .

    Shows curve because you can the wake of the boat.

    Also, look at this,



    This is for @someone234 also
    Wow Pogue I have not seen so much misinformation since we started the FE debates. It's not even worth debunking.
    I will ask you only one question, which I already KNOW that you will not answer in laymans terms, but will try to use sci-fi rhetoric, but heck, here it goes anyways:

    With the Globe-Earth you cannot have a Creator God. I don't mean the millions of created gods, but the Only Infinite and Eternal God possible: "I Am", so you are stuck with the next best explanation of the Heaven and the Earth; BB-Evolution.

    OK, so let's start with the Big Bang which you know was invented by a Catholic Jesuit Priest, similar to a Jesuit Priest who wrote the Satanic Bible in one sitting.

    OK, here is your Universe down at a singularity, .. it is getting denser and hotter, .. 

    Q. What medium are you, or any Big Bang scientist imagining this event taking place "in"?
    I think @pogue abandoned the earth theories, maybe the site altogether.

    Oh, I see, thanks @Erfisflat.
    So is there any other Big-bangers here who could defend their stories?

    You know, .. I have been kicked off half a dozen Forums, both Christian and Atheist for asking these two simple questions, as the one above on the BB, .. and on the evolution theory, about the taxonomy of this mysterious creature they call "Common Ancestor" that can split into two or more branches of different species, yet itself is never identified.

    I would love to ask these same questions, in public, both from Dawkins, and his "Origins Project" buddy Lawrence Krauss!?

    The Big bang is a theory.

    Gods are theories.

    Flat Earth is a theory.

    No one knows the answer.

    We are all making assumptions.
    The flat earth is fact, based on other facts and everyday observations. 
    Evidence
  • Resolved: It was net beneficial for the US to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki

    Welcome to this Debate! This debate is to be specifically accepted by @whiteflame as we have agreed to this topic. I have imposed moderate voting so that @whiteflame and I can obtain your reasons for voting. We hope that you enjoy this debate!
    aarong
  • Repentance and salvation is not for all nations

    Against had slightly more persuasive and higher quality arguments that for. Against had slightly more evidence/sources for his arguments. For and against had good conduct. For and against had good spelling and grammar.
    BaconToes
  • I actually think I understand Flat Earth Theory. Understanding isn't concluding.

    Erfisflat said:
    Now I'm wondering if he will address my contention. I'm guessing he's going to copy and paste the other thing again.

    EmeryPearsonsomeone234
  • Should premarital sex be outlawed?

    Yes, premarital sex should be outlawed because it would help prevent VDs.  

    Concerning "Sharia Law (yeah I'm Islamophobic, get over it).From their forced fasting during Ramadan to their inhumane treatment if those who engage in extramarital intimacy, nations of Sharia Law never cease to disgust me."
    "Tell me, why is this worth putting people in prison for? Whether it's gay or not, you still get punished but the gays get punished worse."

    I'm not an expert on the Islam religion, I've seen a few documentaries.  From my understanding, Sharia is strict enforcement of Kuran.  Not all who practice Isamo practice it Sharia.  I don't know of this to be true, but from some briefings, I've been privy to, if you have sexual relations with a man or "boy" it is not considered a homosexual act.  I'm not a 100% how it works, but if you only prefer men or live with a man then it's condemned and deemed homosexual.   

    You can take that a face value, that's second-hand information per say.  If it is not true, anyone, let me know and I'll edit my response. It is not my intent to insult/offend anyone.  
    DrCereal
  • Does the Bible contradict itself and is it scientifically inaccurate?

    @with_all_humility ;

    Once upon a time, people apparently lived to a ripe old age.

    What do you think the secret of their longevity was?


    Maybe it was all a fantasy tale.


    Thing is. 

    If it was a just a fantasy tale, there would be no need to worry about all the contradiction and scientific inaccuracy.
    anonymousdebater

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