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A given movie's quality should be judged by artistic/intellectual merit as opposed to money made.

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- Incentivize the creation of movies of a higher intellectual nature: essentially, higher reviews lead to larger audiences, which in turn lead to a more successful movie in terms of money. Giving higher reviews to more artistic and intellectual movies will make them earn more money. Since the movie industry operates to gain profit, it will incentivize more artistic and intellectual movies. Rating them on money made only limits the incentivization of movies to ones that get large audiences in the first place, namely, ones with good trailers that apply to many people. 
- result in an overall more culturally rich community.
- Enable movies to be compared with other movies in the past on a more fair playing field: one where inflation has no major effect.





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  • Nah, it wouldn't work.  Usually the movies with the highest reviews are the most boring movies to hit the screens.  I usually find the best movies have mediocre reviews.
  • @CYDdharta, I actually think it's a self fulfilling prophecy. The higher reviews the higher viewership and money made. Most people view reviews before deciding to see a movie.

  • @CYDdharta, I actually think it's a self fulfilling prophecy. The higher reviews the higher viewership and money made. Most people view reviews before deciding to see a movie.

    No, that statement is demonstrably incorrect.  If you compare the top ten highest rated films from 2017 to the top ten highest grossing films of 2017, the only film that was in both categories was Star Wars:The Last Jedi.  I couldn't  Rotten Tomatoes 10 list for 2016, but I did find their top rated movies for 2016.  If you compare the movies that rated 98% to 100%, 22 in all, to the top ten grossing films of 2016, the only movie that was in both categories was Zootopia.
  • CYDdharta said:
    @CYDdharta, I actually think it's a self fulfilling prophecy. The higher reviews the higher viewership and money made. Most people view reviews before deciding to see a movie.

    No, that statement is demonstrably incorrect.  If you compare the top ten highest rated films from 2017 to the top ten highest grossing films of 2017, the only film that was in both categories was Star Wars:The Last Jedi.  I couldn't  Rotten Tomatoes 10 list for 2016, but I did find their top rated movies for 2016.  If you compare the movies that rated 98% to 100%, 22 in all, to the top ten grossing films of 2016, the only movie that was in both categories was Zootopia.
    This may be true, but keep in mind that reviewers can be completely biased when reviewing a movie. I saw a movie that got a 66%, but I thought was really great, and a film that got a 89% that I thought was mediocre. I think that judging a movie by the intellectual and artistic content would work because it would allow a more diverse style of reviewing a film. It would challenge reviewers to rate the ideas or themes presented by the movie rather than the special effects and plot captivation. However, this is somewhat already addressed when reviewers talk about bland characters or many loopholes in the story line. One of the best things to do is simply, when watching the movie, what areas do you think they did good in, say animation, acting, story line, and what lacked, say plot, themes, decoration? Overall, reviewers can give you a general idea of the film, but the audience is the overall judge. Therefore, it is meaningless to compare higher grossing films to highest rating because money and personal opinions don't need to correlate. Higher grossing films mean that the movie was advertised to the right people or that it was a recognizable name in a franchise, but higher ranking sets the bar for what you can "possibly" expect the quality to be.
    A good debate is not judged by bias, but in the context of the debate, where objectivity is key and rationale prevalent. 
  • This argument is flawed from the beginning.  There are several intellectual movies that pose great questions, are loved by critics, but never make a profit.  Is this because they are bad?  Quite the opposite.  Most of the time its because they are too smart.  Movies have always mainly meant to be an escape from the real world, a doorway into fantasy and action-packed universes.  People mostly go to movies to have fun, laugh, cry, get their heart racing.  There is a minority who likes seeing intellectual movies.  But why would these massive companies decide to make movies asking about the meaning of life and cause their possible viewer base to turn away because they don't want a movie to make them think.  Movie companies are going to pander to the largest audience they can, which usually means make movies dumber and more action-packed.  Now it would be nice to get more intellectual movies on the big screen, but the fact just is that a lot of people don't want to go to movies that make them think.
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