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Who is more dangerous - domestic terrorists or islamic extremists?

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Domestic terrorists killed his son. He wants Trump to remember that America makes extremists, too.

“A lot of people think these are disgruntled people who are out of work, but doctors, lawyers and FBI agents have all been involved with sovereign citizens,” Paudert said. “They hate government and they’re willing to kill and be killed for their beliefs.”

Of the 66 criminal justice/military homicides perpetrated by al-Qaeda and its associated movement and far-right extremists from 1990 to 2015, 54 of those deaths — more than 80 percent — came at the hands of the far right, according to an analysis by the University of Maryland’s START (Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism) program.


“An example of this would be an antigovernment extremist who hunts down a police officer because his ideological beliefs demand that he fight back against the government, particularly law enforcement.”

Ryan Lenz, the editor of the SPLC’s Hatewatch blog, said the key to combating far-right terror groups is forcefully engaging them.

If the Trump administration chooses to ignore the far-right threat, he said, it is risking calamity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/23/domestic-terrorists-killed-his-son-he-wants-trump-to-remember-america-makes-extremists-too/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.0166ab909a4c
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    Who is more dangerous to our Country?

    19 votes
    1. Domestic Terrorists
      26.32%
    2. Islamic Extremists
      47.37%
    3. Both
      15.79%
    4. None
      10.53%



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  • islander507islander507 194 Pts   -  
    I support President Trump policies regarding islamic extremists.  That said, both threats are important and we should not lose sight of that.   A combination strategy is warranted, and that also plays into gu control debate too.
  • ale5ale5 263 Pts   -  
    While extremists are being represented as the major threat, this article is an example how much domestic terrorist activity we have as even a larger threat
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  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1823 Pts   -  
    It's a biased article that conveniently omits an Al Qaeda attack that killed 2996 Americans to make it's point.Islamic terrorists are the most troublesome because their attacks are the most organized.
    George_Horse
  • agsragsr 881 Pts   -  
    @CYDdharta , agreed. The article also omits 911...
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  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1823 Pts   -  
    @agsr That was, of course, the terrorist attack I was referring to.
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1823 Pts   -  
    Also omitted are the victims of left-wing violence such as the casualties for Black Lives Matter, which, in one year could outnumber the 15 years worth of victims they reported on.
  • inc4tinc4t 186 Pts   -  
    CYDdharta, as you stated, there are so many vicitims from these extremist attacks. It is interesting that the Washinghton Post article tries to use the tragedy in what happened to somehow make a point downplaying the extremist terrorist actions.
  • joecavalryjoecavalry 430 Pts   -  
    Both are extremely dangerous. Although, they can execute potentially different acts of terrorism and in different parts of the world as well.
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  • love2debatelove2debate 186 Pts   -  
    Both are a threat. Just because Trump is trying to protect the country from foreign extremists, doesnt mean that he is not taking domestic terror threats seriously as well.
  • syriastrikesyriastrike 3 Pts   -  
    They are different, but can have simialar effects.
  • islander507islander507 194 Pts   -  
    It is important that we have policies for both external and internal terrorist threats.
  • anti_islamanti_islam 2 Pts   -  
    Islamic terrorists happen to be in a different environment which they potentially adapted to. They're environment varies, but is most likely more radical than the US making their beliefs crazier and also more radical.
  • melanielustmelanielust 285 Pts   -  
    Islamic extremists are different not only because they are greater in number, but because they are organized and have a way to allow themselves access to financial resources/other resources. Domestic terrorists are usually not working in such groups, and could not create fear or mass destruction in the way that Islamic extremism has.
  • VaulkVaulk 813 Pts   -  
    The suggestion that a Right-wing extremist hunting down a single cop to administer his twisted form of justice is somehow "Domestic Terrorism" is ridiculous.  We need to make a movement downstream, back to a world where "Words mean things" and you cannot simply re-define the meaning of a word to fit your agenda.  Terrorism is defined by the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations as: the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.  Your example of the loony toon, right wing extremist hunting a cop does not fit the bill for Terrorism because his intention was NOT to intimidate or coerce someone in order to further his political or social objective.
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  • valexiajj1927valexiajj1927 14 Pts   -  
    Vaulk said:
    We need to make a movement downstream, back to a world where "Words mean things" and you cannot simply re-define the meaning of a word to fit your agenda. 

    Yes, @Vaulk and @anti_islam made reasonable points.

    like vaulk said, you can't redefine a word. Trump and his cabinet are doing a bunch of that redefining lately. Including quotes, and alternative facts as they call it.
  • adebateronDI_1adebateronDI_1 17 Pts   -  
    Both are very dangerous and capable of different acts of terrorism.

    Islamic-
    1)off-shore mainly terrorism, not in America. Again, for the most part.
    2)focused in Middle East and possibly have different priorities, but similar.

    Domestic-
    1) commit terror in America.
    2) usually come in from other countries and trained Bedford hand off-shore and commit terror later in a America.
    3) could find out about ISIS and other terrorist groups and dedicate themselves to it, but are not Muslim.
  • PinoPino 85 Pts   -  
    Firstly, if America spawns its own terrorists, then why to heck should we import more?
    Whilst I stand to be corrected, I am unaware of any home grown terrorist group carrying out such atrocities as 9/11 and the San Bernardino and Boston outrages.  
    Islamic extremists are significantly more dangerous as they're not only dedicated to bringing down the government, but also the elimination of all other religions and laws and replacing them with the Muslim faith and Sharia law.
    Death to the infidels, that's all non Muslims.
    Democracy would cease to exist along with the right to religious and political expression.
    A religious fanatic will always be a greater potential danger than a political reactionary.
    George_Horse
  • George_HorseGeorge_Horse 499 Pts   -  
    Islamic extremists. From my looks on Europe, they are more likely to commit attacks than domestic extremists, and it depends on who it is. American ones? Or ones from other countries?
    Nathaniel_B
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  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 5965 Pts   -  
    Statistically, terrorism endangers people far-far less than most even pretty uncommon sources of danger. In general, less people die in the US to terrorist attacks yearly, than they die to wild dog attacks. However, wild dog attacks do not make for a very compelling case for increasing governmental spending, hence the "war on terror". 

    So, I would say, neither is dangerous by any reasonable measure. If I were to still pick the more dangerous one of the two, I would go with the domestic terrorists. Foreign terrorists essentially perform an attack against the nation, so there is not too much confusion in how to treat such attacks. However, domestic terrorists destabilize the society from within, pitting people against each other based on supporting or rejecting the terrorist's ideology.
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