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If I support Trump, am I a closet Racist?
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  • Whether it is repressed or not the majority in this poll voted as no.
    Live Long and Prosper
  • That's an extremely controversial debate. Are Trump supporters racist? Well, that could be debated or answered from different views. 
    Stand points:
    Illegal Immigrant- yes, they are racist.

    black American- yes, they are racist. Hillary was better than him, but Obama was much better than both of them.

    Other Black American- Obama didn't do much for African Americans, Hillary is as "good" as Trump is.

    White American (Working Class/ Middle Class)-
    Trump will make American Great again.

    Elderly White American- 
    Trump will restore American to how it was in the old days.

    Legal Immigrant- 
    Yes, he may be good.

    Upperclass American-
    Yes, He will be good for America and my wealth.

    Other Upperclass American-
    No, he will be bad for my company.

    So, I believe that everybody has a different perspective. For me, I think trump supporters are not racists.


  • That is a good point - Trump stands for different things for different people. Making America great again, has a different definition of great to everyone.  I still think that he represents views that are racist, but not saying whether each supporter agrees to think of themselves that way
    It's kind of fun to do the impossible
    - Walt Disney
  • No, they are not closet racists rather bit racists at all. They want to make their country great again.
  • This poll is very interesting, but it is even more interesting to read the comments. Clear vote though that most disagree.  I am curious how this vote would play out if we separate it by trump supporters vs anti-Trump folks.
    Live Long and Prosper
  • No, Teump supporters have different views than some others.
  •  No, Trump supporters are not.
  • There seem to be more Trump supporters here, but still 26% agreed on this poll that Trump supporters are racists.  Given the fact that most people wouldn't admit it to themselves or even more so publically about being a racist, I'd say there is a really strong support for this argument.
    It's kind of fun to do the impossible
    - Walt Disney
  • To me it is clear as night and day, Most Trump supporters are absolutely racists.  Covering up as nationalists, that is how Hitler started too.  Trump stands for racism, and the reason he got support is because of many Americans don't want to accept diversity.  They finally have a president who makes that okay for them to accept themselves for who they are -racists.  Atleast some have courage to be upfront about it, and some admit it to themselves.  Go ahead ask yourself - are you a racist? Only you can judge yourself. I agree with you ale5.
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • I'd say the opposite is true.  Racist groups like Black Lives Matter and The Race (La Raza) were huge supporters of Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. 

    George_Horse
  • CYDdharta, I agree with you.  Trump is not racist and neither are his supporters.  Being against illegal immigrants is different than being against muslims or mexicans. Democrats breed all type of racism, so should we call all Hillary supporters racist as well?
  • @debateislandrocks, @CYDdharta , i disagree.  @WhyTrump right - it is racist. I am not saying 100%, but a good majority supporting his principles.  I also picked up on the use of @ feature, and even just got a debateIsland badge for using it.  
  • Again, being against illegal immigrants is different than being a racist. The argument doesn't hold
    Live Long and Prosper
  • No, Trump supporters are not closet racists. Also, I agree with agsr who is one of the best debateisland.com users if not on any debate website.
  • Thank you @kendraakk_1982  for your kind words.  It is incorrect generalize Trump supporters as racist.
    Live Long and Prosper
  • No, we typically align with candidates on issues that are close to us.  You may disagree with Trump in many issues and agree with him in other, but you take the bad with good.  Calling everyone that supports Trump a racist is a mistake that over simplifies the complex views and concerns of people living in this country.  I know Mexicans that support Trump because of the perceived financial opportunities he will bring to the market, but disagree with his views on immigration.  Having said that, if I have to guess the political affiliation of a racist person, I would go with Trump supporter without hesitation.
  • No, Teump supporters have certain beliefs that apply to their candidate just like others have believes that apply to their candidates.
  • @model67 made a good point. It is not correct to generalize, and good examples with some mexicans supporting Trump. That said if I was a Mexican, I probably wouldn't tell that to my other mexican friends for fear of personal safety.  But please tell your Mexican friend that he is welcome to debate anonymously as a valuable member of DebateIsland community.  :)
    Live Long and Prosper
  • That's very funny agsr. Also, I love this website. I found it through google and am switching over from  Debate.org and createdebate.com. I heard that many top users are switching over as well as other users. They now have some competition.
  • Thank you @landa_landa1929 . Welcome to DebateIsland, We look forward to debating with you.
    Live Long and Prosper
  • No, Trump supporters are not racists. Also, I love this website.
  • When I created this debate I expected a more split response.  More than 70% decisively disagree that Trump supporters are racist.  I personally don't feel that most Trump supporters are racists.  This debate opened up an interesting diverse perspectives what it means to be racists and how are we willing and unwilling to admit publically, anonymously, or even to ourselves.
    Please continue debating on this interesting topic.  I just wanted to take this checkpoint and thank everyone who took the time to vote and express their valuable point of view.
  • I also don't believe that they are closet racists.
  • No, they are not.
  • Given the latest immigration ban, I will argue that it's another example of borderline racism. It is spot on targeting Muslims. 
    It's kind of fun to do the impossible
    - Walt Disney
  • Ale5, being against illegal immigrants and unvetted dangerous immigrants from countries listed in the ban (that happen to be mostly muslims) is very different then beinf racist
    Live Long and Prosper
  • I also agree with @agsr  .
  • WhyTrump - a good question
  • All Trump Supporters are not racist. It is not right to generalize about  such a large group. Sure there may be a few who are actually racists but they are a  minority. @lakix_10291 @love2debate
  • @bruce706 , while I agree that it is inappropriate to generalize all Trump supporters as racists, I will argue
    1) Trump himself is racist (see the article I posted above), and therefore at a minimum Trump supporter condone this behavior
    2) I agree not all are racists,  but disagree that it is a minority.  It is a good chunk, but many may not even admit it to themselves, self- justifying their believes
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • @WhyTrump Just as strong a case can be made that Obama was a racist, but Trump wasn't supported by active racist organizations like La Raza and Black Lives Matter.  Since Obama and Hillary both endorsed these organizations, doesn't that make them and their supporters  racists as well?
  • @CYDdharta , that is a bit different.
    1) Obama is black, and had to deal with racism his whole life.
    2) Obama didnt insult all minorities, muslims, and mexicans
    3) huffington Post didn't publish a detailed article with 13 examples of why Obama is racist
    4)  King didn't come out supporting Trump with his comments like he did today. 
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • @WhyTrump ;

    1) True Obama had to deal with racism like all people do, but he decided to deal with it by being racist against white people, as my link points out.

    2) Trump didn't insult all minorities, Muslims, and Mexicans either

    3) HuffPo is about as biased a source as can be found on the internet. Your link is nothing more than a political hit piece made up of distortions and unverifiable accounts.  Of course HuffPo wouldn't do anything to undermine their guy, in fact they went out of their way to excuse almost all of Obama's many faults.  That doesn't mean that examples of Obama's racism don't exist, as my link makes clear.

    4) I have no idea what you are referring to, you'll have to be more specific.

  • @CYDdharta

    4) Nevermind, I just found the thread.  There is no relation to this thread, however; Trump's name wasn't even mentioned in the article referenced.

  • @CYDdharta ;
    1) that is very different, but I would say calling Obama racist is a stretch.  Not sure if he loved white people, and he probably was a closet communist, but racist is too far.
    2) whether open, hints, subtle messages, these minority groups got upset by his racially targeted comments. We can argue shade of his racist remarks, in a corporate environment for example someone would send him to HR.
    3) Huff post is anti-Trump, I will give you that one.  However, that doesnt mean all 13 examples are false
    4) king article didn't mention Trump, but that is a good example of Right wing spectrum, and was clearly racist.

    are you arguing that trump supporters are not more likely to be racist, or if not all of them are racist? I would argue that "most" are racist to some level.
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • @WhyTrump

    1) I would say calling Trump a racist is a bridge too far.

    2) Most minority groups, by definition, are racist groups

    3) You are correct, they're not all false, some are simply inconsequential

    4) I disagree, the King article demonstrates nothing more than King's thoughts and beliefs.  Shall we also paint an entire party's beliefs with Sheila Jackson Lee's comments and say half the country doesn't know we haven't landed people on Mars yet, or that the Constitution is over 400 years old


    Undoubtedly there are many more racists, and more active racists on the left than on the right.  The right castigates and disavows their racists, the left embraces them.

  • @WhyTrump , I disagree with you. @CYDdharta  makes good points about unfairly generalizing Trump supporters with good counter-arguments.  I also agree that we can just as easily argue that Obama was racist against white people as per aim.org article he posted  "

    Reason to Hate: Barack Obama’s Racist Roots" 

  • No, Trump supporters are nor racist. Although, they do seem so, they just want what's best for their amazing country and so does our great president, Donald John Trump.
  • @alszeralinter , meaning well for the country isn't mutually exclusive with being a racist.  You will find that many of the Right wight and Trump supporters either condone or fully embrace racial and religious (in case of muslims) discrimination 
    WhyTrump - a good question
  • There are many true racists out there, those are not Teump supporters. Obviously, most people are racist in one way or another. There are hate groups and simply closet racists. Donald Trump appealed to many due to his love for our country. Trump supporters are not racists and neither is Trump.
    DebateIslander and a DebateIsland.com lover. 
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