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Did Jill Stein & Bernie Sanders collude with Trump and Russia?

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This seems to be the narrative for the press this week.
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    Did Stein & Sanders collude to stop Hillary?

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    1. No
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    2. Yes
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  • joecavalryjoecavalry 430 Pts   -  
    No, I’m not sure if they personally collided with Russia against Truml. Although, the Democratic Party May have as a whole colluded with Russia to make sure that Trump wouldn’t win the 2016 presidential election, although, Trump won the 2016 presidential election. I also believe that the investigation into Russia collusion is not needed and a waste of tax payer money.
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  • No, I don’t believe they did. I don’t think that any party colluded with Russia and that includes the Trump administration.
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  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1833 Pts   -  
    No, I don’t believe they did. I don’t think that any party colluded with Russia and that includes the Trump administration.
    Does that include Hillary and her campaign?  They hired Fusion GPS to make up the Trump dossier.  Fusion GPS, in turn, hired Russian operatives to come up with the stories in the dossier.
    brontoraptor
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6017 Pts   -  
    It is possible, although somewhat unlikely. Sanders historically has had strong ties with Soviet Union and later Russia, which saw him as a good destabilizing factor for the US - but given his strong position against Putin and his regime, I do not see him taking Putin's money willingly. As for Stein, she is not a very serious political candidate and only less politically proficient people seriously consider voting for this anti-science conspiracy theorist; pretty sure Putin can find better venues to invest in.

    That said, Putin's goal on the 2016 election was probably to prevent a reasonable candidate from winning. In this context, promoting fringe candidates, especially given that they have a potential to take away votes from serious candidates, makes sense. But, again, I am yet to see any evidence of Putin funding Stein or Sanders. Putin funding Trump, on the other hand, is incredibly likely, as he quickly recognized that Trump has a potential of winning, and also as Trump's stance on Russia is the best news that country had had since early Carter's times.
  • WordsMatterWordsMatter 493 Pts   -  
    @CYDdharta "Fusion GPS A Washington-based private intelligence firm founded in 2009 by former journalist Glenn Simpson is hired by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative publication funded by Republicans opposed to Donald Trump, and begins to examine his and his team's relationship with Russia, along with other matters." -2015 
    Clinton and the DNC just took over the bill once Trump won the nomination.
    CYDdharta
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1833 Pts   -  
    @CYDdharta "Fusion GPS A Washington-based private intelligence firm founded in 2009 by former journalist Glenn Simpson is hired by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative publication funded by Republicans opposed to Donald Trump, and begins to examine his and his team's relationship with Russia, along with other matters." -2015 
    Clinton and the DNC just took over the bill once Trump won the nomination.
    Completely false. 
    All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

    The whole Russia collusion fairy tale was made up by the Hillary campaign.  The Washington Free Beacon had absolutely nothing to do with it.
  • WordsMatterWordsMatter 493 Pts   -  
    @CYDdharta of course the guilty party denies it
  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta 1833 Pts   -  
    @CYDdharta of course the guilty party denies it

    Wrong again.  The Hillary campaign admitted their role in the Steele Dossier ... eventually.
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