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Are you for or against designer babies?
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By DeeDee 652 Pts
Would you pay for genetic engineering to insure , health , intelligence and attractiveness in a child?



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  • If you can not love someone outside of who they are, your suggesting your incapable of loving anything. 

    It's not a matter of the person but what you determine effects how you view someone.

    This is called superficiality.
  • DeeDee 652 Pts


    You say ......

    If you can not love someone outside of who they are, your suggesting your incapable of loving anything. 

    My reply ......Maybe don’t do it then , I suggested nothing 

    You say ......It's not a matter of the person but what you determine effects how you view someone.

    My reply .....It’s totally a matter of the person and all that’s implied in that 

    You say ......This is called superficiality.

    My reply ......Yes , better of letting a child be born Down’s syndrome as an example just in case you’re branded superficial by “Christians “ like you 
  • I definitely would for health (insure no genetic defects) and intelligence (if it's even possible, I doubt we're there yet...) but not for the subjective notion of attractiveness...

    Genetically enhanced humans will be a common thing in the next 100 years, probably less, considering the first CRISPR babies were (apparently) born last year... The tools to do so already exists, Pandora's box has been opened and there is no closing this box... Which lead me to think that humans will actually engineer the next big evolutionary steps... In say 2000 years, there will be "natural humans", enhanced humans and cyborgs... I think it's unavoidable...  
    piloteer
    " Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
  • DeeDee 652 Pts
    @Plaffelvohfen

    Good piece thanks for posting. I read a very interesting piece a while back that stated in the future people may be able to design their children to look like their favourite celebrity who’s DNA will become a huge money making industry , there are various other theories put forward that equally sound like something from science fiction but entirely possible.

    Like  you I would certainly pick for health and intelligence who wouldn’t if it given the choice
    Plaffelvohfen
  • Against. The Lord, my God should be the only One allowed to design babies.
  • DeeDee 652 Pts
    @YeshuaRedeemed

    Indeed , he’s not very good at it is he considering all the terminally ill and handicapped intellectually and otherwise born every year 

    PlaffelvohfenAlofRI
  • Personally, I would not at the moment. But this is simply for my limited understanding that the use of CRISPR technology would lead to shorter lifespans. If we ever developed a way of ensuring a long, healthy life, I would certainly allow it for medical reasons. 
  • This is a tricky subject.

    Say science gets advanced enough that a specialist could determine that a certain genetic coupling is X% likely to have a child born with X genetic defect. Say we could prevent this via gene editing. 

    On an ethos level, you face the moral dilemma on whether or not to change your child so that they might avoid suffering. This means that you are passing judgement on a person that hasn't been born yet, and by editing their genes you've deemed them flawed from the beginning. That may definitely cause serious relationship problems between child and parents later on in life. However, if you don't elect to edit their genes, and the child is born with X genetic defect, then you will have known there was an opportunity to resolve it before the child ever would have been aware of it. 

    On a more realism note, how do you think this science would be applied in western medicine? It is extremely likely that only the wealthy will be able to afford such procedures. This would start an age where the wealthy and their descendants will go through artificial selection and "evolve" whilst the lower demographic of the world would remain unchanged. Eventually, you'd have a clique of pure-bred humans as if it were a prestigious dog show. Meanwhile in  nature wolves and other wild canines must fend for themselves. 
  • AlofRIAlofRI 247 Pts
    That's what that pervert that just (allegedly), hung himself was trying to do. Improve the human race with HIS "superior genes". I DO think science could do a far superior job. Maybe even better than this "God" fella'. We develop disease resistant plants that are better than HIS natural ones, make them more weather resistant, more productive, able to feed MORE people … not a bad thing. So, disease resistant people, more hardy people, more intelligent people, what could be wrong with that??
    Man has been improving things since his existence, why stop now?? As Galileo said: " I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect, has intended us to forego their use."
    So, even if you are a believer, there are still different ways to look at it. Why would we have these gifts if we shouldn't use them????
    Plaffelvohfen
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 1793 Pts
    As long as it is safe, absolutely. Genetic engineering is the future: we should not be defined by random gene combinations we get, and we should improve them in order to achieve our true potential, just like we do with everything else in life.

    Cybernetics, genetic engineering and nanotechnology are the 3 areas that have a potential to get us to the level of existence we cannot even imagine nowadays. As long as ethics extremists and religious fundamentalists do not slow down their development, we might see a significant evolution in humans within our lifetimes. 50 years from now, I would imagine, there will not be many people who have not undergone some sort of an extensive body/gene enhancement procedure.
  • Dee said:
    Would you pay for genetic engineering to insure , health , intelligence and attractiveness in a child?
    In basic principle we do not insure posterity by genetic engineering we only insure the  majority of medical issues the child and adult will face will be new medical issues.
  • I definitely would for health (insure no genetic defects) and intelligence (if it's even possible, I doubt we're there yet...) but not for the subjective notion of attractiveness...

    Genetically enhanced humans will be a common thing in the next 100 years, probably less, considering the first CRISPR babies were (apparently) born last year... The tools to do so already exists, Pandora's box has been opened and there is no closing this box... Which lead me to think that humans will actually engineer the next big evolutionary steps... In say 2000 years, there will be "natural humans", enhanced humans and cyborgs... I think it's unavoidable...  
    Your idea of genetic health adversely effects the entire human genome. Cutting out "genetic defects"( there's technically no such thing) actually reduces our genetic variety, which effects our ability to adapt to our ever changing environment. It would make it more difficult for the human race to adapt and survive. What you're talking about could easily be made illegal because of the indisputable problems it causes.  
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