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Progressive-Socialism/The Democrat Party Seeks to Destroy America's Constitutional Republic
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By RickeyDRickeyD 212 Pts

Having policed this suffering society for 31-years, I’ve never understood how a man or woman possessing even a modicum of common decency, wisdom, logic, patriotism, discernment, can support a Political Party i.e. Progressive-Socialist-Democrats that represent flagrant racism; bigotry; misogyny; hate; anti-American/anti-Israel/anti-Christian/pro-Islamic initiatives including…


1) The mutilation of babies in the womb up to the ninth-month thereby denying these innocent children their 5th/14th-Amendment due process protections. Some 61-million babies murdered thus far subsequent to Roe v. Wade (1973). Anyone who votes for a Progressive-Socialist-Democrat has the blood of innocent, slaughtered, babies via abortion on their hands and their culpability will be Judged in Eternity before our Holy, Just, Righteous, Creator, Jesus Christ-Yeshua!


2) Sexual perversion that is destroying America’s posterity in confusion, disease, addiction, mental illness, incredible rates of suicide, hopelessness.


3) Socialism that is destroying America’s Constitutional Republic and Capitalist economic success. Socialism that is responsible for 100-million deaths in the last 100-years.


4) Open Border initiatives which are destroying America’s sovereignty through non-assimilating multiculturalism, disease, murder of American citizens by illegal aliens, economic deprivation – employment scarcity for American low-wage earners; destruction to America’s schools through overpopulation/lowered academic accessibility and incredible burdens shouldered by school administrations and teachers with insufficient wages/compensation.


5) Repeal of the 2nd-Amendment and restrictions on the 1st-Amendment creating a society easily subjected to a tyrannical-socialist government.


6) Destruction of America’s municipalities through Politically Correct policies that are destroying the middle-class and creating epidemic levels of homelessness, addiction, disease, murder, poverty, hopelessness.


7) Destruction of the family unit through abortion; gender confusion forced upon America’s youth; the celebration of sexual perversion insisting the reality of over 100-genders…suicide, absent fathers, welfare dependent mothers, illiterate children.


8) Castration of America’s law enforcement community by Progressive-Socialist-Democrat municipal and state administrations exploiting the Ferguson Effect and demonizing our police, thwarting all forms of proactive policing, while our inner-cities suffer unconscionable crime rates, murder rates and the law-abiding citizenry cowers in fear. Mothers using bathtubs as beds for their children due to stray gunfire killing the innocent in urban gang wars and drug wars. An epidemic of addiction, overdose deaths, violent gang wars, trash, rats, human feces-urine polluting our streets, the resurgence of diseases from antiquity while pompous, arrogant, mindless, Democrat mayors, governors, live in their gated, posh, safe, communities.


Progressive Socialism is death to America and the Progressive-Socialist-Democrat is the epitome of a traitor to America and the icon of hypocrites.



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    Move on up to Canada and smell the stench of socialism in full swing under the direction of Mr. dress up who likes to paint his face black then like the politically correct socialized hypocrite he truly is orders everyone else to play by his distorted ways.
    In short:
    Socialism sucks
    RickeyDLibertineStatesVaulk
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  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
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  • @Dee As opposed to a blanket MEME, Dee, why not bring your problems with the Scripture to this forum one-at-a-time and explain your animosity and hate for that "one" Scripture and allow me to rebut your hate?  Then we can move-on to another? Let's do this with organization...OK? Open for that debate?
  • DeeDee 1101 Pts
    edited November 24

    Sure I hate slavery and have animosity towards it yet your god and Jesus totally approved making me morally superior in every way , I guess that makes you a lover of biblical slavery with not a touch of animosity regards it , I guess it’s a “Christian “ thing ......



    You’ve never read a Bible , you don’t even realise there were totally different rules for a Hebrew slave compared to others yet you will persist just to save face ....... The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.......



    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)



    Selling your daughters as approved by your god .....



    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)




    How to beat a slave as approved by your god 


    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)



    You think owning people as property is moral right ?  

    RickeyD
  • Judged in eternity, you say? I have heard that they have beautiful succubi over there in Hell, who cook amazing dinners, dance gracefully - and, of course, satisfy people's intellectual lusts. Do you think a gentleman like me will have a chance with them?

    I also have always preferred hot weather. Sounds like Hell is just the right place!

    Why would anyone prefer Heaven? Where you flow in the sky all day, listening to monks' preachings and bowing to an old guy with a beard... Sounds like a miserable place to be.
    PlaffelvohfenAmericanFurryBoysmoothie
  • MayCaesar said:
    Do you think a gentleman like me will have a chance with them?


    Not a chance in Hell.  (Sorry, I couldn't help myself)
    MayCaesarLibertineStates
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 382 Pts
    edited November 25
    @RickeyD

    Progressives are technically right leaning moderates and has nothing to do with socialism or communism, which are much farther left.

    If someone thinks these things are left wing then it can only mean that they are much farther right, and if you find these things immoral and want to impose greater control through policing and restriction then we can assume authoritarianism is like water to a fish.

    Which political ideologies are both far right and authoritarian?

    You know, if heaven actually exists then abortion is completely justified because it would allow babies to completely bypass this existence and go straight to heaven.

    Kind of sounds like a win-win for everyone!

    If you truly believe Jesus is the lord and savior then how can you be opposed to abortion?

    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Dee You said: "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

    Response...

    The issue of slavery in the ancient world is a complex one. The practices and regulations regarding this long-standing institution must be viewed in light of the rather unrefined ages in which the relationship of slavery prevailed.

    It may be stated with absolute confidence that it was never the ideal will of God that one man should own another as a piece of property. The fact that each human being is in the “image of God” (Gen. 1:26-27; 9:6) argues that slavery is not a divinely designed relationship.

    Slavery Prevailed in the Ancient World

    The antique world was full of slavery. In Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, Rome, etc., the practice of owning slaves was common.

    Aristotle taught that it was in the natural order of things that some men should own others so that the higher classes could flourish.

    In most of those cultures, the practice was barbarous. Slaves were not “people.” They were chattel, mere things, pieces of property to be used, abused, or even disposed of at the whim of the master. Slaves could be tortured or murdered at the owner’s bidding. Such cruelty obviously was not consistent with the will of God.

    The Law of God and Slavery

    The Mosaic regime was born into a world in which slavery was a thriving enterprise already. Within the Hebrew culture a level of servitude was both acknowledged and regulated.

    Slaves might be obtained in a variety of ways. Generally they were acquired as prisoners of war, as a result of the various conquests that Israel was authorized to wage (Num. 31:7-9). In an Israelite home, servitude could be an advantage over death, because servants were to be viewed as household members.

    Sometimes servants were obtained as gifts (Gen. 29:24) or through purchase (Lev. 25:44). The offspring of slaves automatically belonged to the same owner (Ex. 21:4). A robber might be enslaved if he could not repay the value of the “loot” he had stolen (Ex. 22:2-3).

    Too, one could sell his self into an indentured relationship (Ex. 21:6) — either temporarily (there were time limitations protecting him; Ex. 21:2ff), or for life, if he loved his master and chose life-long security. Such was not uncommon in the harsh world of the ancients.

    Hebrew Law Versus Other Ancient Societies

    But Hebrew law was far superior to the codes of the pagan nations with reference to slaves.

    For example, there are some glaring contrasts between the law of Moses and the code of Hammurabi (a Babylonian ruler) with reference to slaves. Under the Babylonian regime, harboring a runaway slave incurred the death penalty. Under the Hebrew system, a runaway slave seeking refuge could not be returned to his master (Dt. 23:15).

    A Hebrew-owned slave could choose to bind himself to his master for life. The agreement would be ratified by the piercing of his ear (Ex. 21:6; Dt. 15:17). In Babylon, a slave who said to his master, “You don’t own me!” could have his ear cut off!

    Under the Mosaic system, robbery required restitution — either in actual payment or service (Ex. 22:3). Babylonian law made robbery a capital offense.

    The Roman writer Pliny tells of a case where a slave accidentally dropped and broke a crystal goblet. His owner immediately threw him into a courtyard fishpond where he was torn apart by savage lampreys.

    Under the law of Moses, to kill a slave was a crime that carried punishment (Ex. 21:20). While the law allowed the physical punishment of one’s slave, the Jew was not permitted to kill his servant. This protection was unprecedented in the ancient world.

    One scholar has noted that the Jews’ treatment of Gentile slaves was “a great deal more humane than elsewhere in the ancient world” (Jeremias 1969, 348).

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    You said: When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

    Response...

    It is imperative for us to understand both verses (4 and 7 of Exodus 21) contextually. Both these passages don’t suggest any kind of forcing people into slavery; it’s their own choice to sell themselves. What we see here is the Law or contract of sale; in other words, if you disagree with them, don’t sell yourself to be slave. This is a choice! So I don’t understand what he means by “no consent”. Yes, they consented to be sold as slaves by accepting this Law or contract of sale. The daughter has no consent? Take your argument with the parents, not the Law. It’s like saying, children didn’t consent to be adopted by other family, and therefore the Law of adoption is to be blamed.

    They consented in selling their children because they had no other choices in making it in life. No one forced them to sell themselves; this is why in verse 16 the Law makes it clear that forcing people into slavery is prohibited.

    A “slave” in those days was a person who had incurred an un-payable debt to another and had sold himself into that person’s employment. (Thus the phrase: “He is his money” – Exodus 21:21)! Furthermore, contextually, in Exodus 21, slaves usually had a set limit of time they served. Hebrew slaves could work no longer than 6 years, and after that, had to be released from their contract for nothing (Leviticus 25 and 27). Some people actually became slaves forever (by choice), simply because they would have bonded with their “masters,” and would have preferred to stay with them. They didn’t want to be freed in some cases. In the following passage, the Bible gives instructions for such a case: “5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I LOVE MY MASTER, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: 6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him forever” (Exodus 21:5-6)

    Surely this verse proves that slavery was not an evil activity like how we think of the brutal slavery of Africans. Rather, this type of slavery was different. They worked for you in exchange for bread, a roof, and the payments of their debts. They could walk away after 6 years if they wanted, but many probably stayed on as hired hands forever by choice.

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    You said:

    How to beat a slave as approved by your god 

    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

    Response...

    This doesn’t suggest that God condones beating of slaves; otherwise why would He say, “If the slave dies, he shall be avenged”. Why? That’s because slaves had right. What this passage implies is that, perhaps if there were masters who were short-tempered and beat his slaves out of anger, and unintentionally kill him or her in process, he himself must be killed (v.23-24) but not if the slave survived (or, at least for a few days). Why? First, if the slave survived, it shows the master’s intent was not to kill or seriously harm the slave. Either way, it was a simple case of domestic violence, not pre-meditated murder. There is a big difference between those two. This doesn’t in any way suggest that God condoned them to go ahead and beat their slaves at will.

    It was forbidden by God to oppress slaves:

    “THOU SHALT NOT OPPRESS AN HIRED SERVANT THAT IS POOR AND NEEDY, whether he be OF THY BRETHREN, OR OF THY STRANGERS that are in thy land within thy gates” (Deuteronomy 24:14)

    “Thou shalt NEITHER VEX A STRANGER, NOR OPPRESS HIM: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt” (Exodus 22:21)

    That’s clear, so if the children of Israel oppressed their hired servant; then they disobeyed God’s commend. Any skeptic who tries to isolate these commands to “prove” that God condones beating a slave just reveals their own sheer desperation.

    Next, the Bible clears up the meaning when it says this, “he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.” What does that mean? That, slaves are cheap property and worthless? No, not at all!

    The text isn’t saying slaves are worthless property. What the text is saying is this: He was under contract to the master (his “employer”), and as such, had a financial obligation to him. Therefore, the master will owe nothing. They had to go to court and let the judge assess the damage done to the slave: “26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; HE SHALL LET HIM GO FREE for his eye’s sake. 27 And if he smite out his manservant’s tooth, or his maidservant’s tooth; HE SHALL LET HIM GO FREE for his tooth’s sake” (Exodus 21:26-27)

    What is really going on in the entire chapter 21 of Exodus is that God is giving penalties based on certain crimes. God isn’t saying whether or not the action is moral – it’s already understood that it is not; otherwise He wouldn’t have given these penalties. From the context of the chapter, it’s clear these are all immoral activities (striking your parents, killing people, etc.).

    So don’t get confused and think God accepts beating your slave. This section is not making statements as to the moral nature of the crime, but rather, what the punishment should be for such a crime. It is similar to our laws of today, where we may have law books that state the punishment for various crimes (i.e., domestic abuse is XX days in prison and a XX fine; or murder in the 1st degree is death penalty).

    It doesn’t mean the law makers condone those crimes. But when you take everything out of context, of course you’ll only see what you want to see in order to fulfill your little fantasy.

    Finally, to further prove that the biblical slavery was contractual and consensual; let me quote what Leviticus 25:47 says,

    And if A SOJOURNER OR STRANGER WAX RICH BY THEE, and thy brother (Israelite) that dwelleth by him WAX POOR, and SELL HIMSELF UNTO THE STRANGER OR SOJOURNER BY THEE, OR TO THE STOCK OF THE STRANGER’S FAMILY…

    As you can see, the strangers too had right to buy poor Israelites. This isn’t a forced slavery at all, “…and thy brother (Israelite) that dwelleth by him WAX POOR, and SELL HIMSELF unto THE STRANGER OR SOJOURNER BY THEE…”

    This practice still occurred during Paul’s days and see what he said to them (Masters and Servants or Slaves), “SERVANTS, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; 6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; 7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: 8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. 9 And, ye MASTERS, DO THE SAME THINGS UNTO THEM, FORBEARING THREATENING: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him” (Ephesians 6:5)

    Does that sound like someone condoning, ordering the masters to beat up their slaves? Judge for yourself.

    Now, the next one he wrote, “Deut 20:10-15 ″when you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.” So they could either consent to slavery or death- that’s a great choice!”

    What we see here is Israel fighting against their enemies; in other words, what other choices were there to choose from? Of course, be our slaves or die fighting. This is exactly what the king of Assyria did to Judah (2 Kings 18:17-37); but atheists have to be inconsistent otherwise they have no arguments at all.

    Fact is, this goes both ways; their enemies could have enslaved them if they won the battle as well (Proof of that, read what Nebuchadnezzar did to them in 2 Kings 24). That’s the rule of war against your enemies, not God’s only! This has nothing to do with enslaving people by force for no reason; which was the point of my article. The Israelites themselves were enslaved by the Egyptians for 400 years. So it was right then when they were enslaved but wrong for them to enslave their enemies if they ‘consent’? How consistent!

    But Atheist and Skeptics would object and say, but isn’t He a God of mercy? Isn’t He supposed to have a higher moral standard? Why the fight?

    Yes He is merciful and has both the highest and best moral standard, but He is also a God of Judgment (don’t ever forget that). If fact; He showed His mercy towards them when He gave them 400 years to repent from their idolatrous practices (Genesis 15:16). So when He told the children of Israel to destroy them; that was the execution of His judgment!

    But this judgment wasn’t only applied to Israel’s enemies; God laid out to them (Israel) both the blessing (salvation) and cursing (judgment) of the Law (Deuteronomy 28), in other words; if they disobeyed the Law, just like their enemies, they too were going to be judged (punished, destroyed…). In fact, God, in some instance, used these very Amorites and Midianites to execute His judgment on Israel’s disobedience (Judges 61-6). But again, Atheists either didn’t know this or just deliberately ignore it.

    So, the destruction of the enemies at that time was God’s Judgment for them. But today, we aren’t told to fight our enemies anymore because God, out of love for everyone, sent His Son Jesus to die for all our sins. This is why Jesus said, “43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matthew 5:43-45). We now live under the New Testament era where those laws have been abolished (Ephesians 2:13-16; Romans 6:14; 10:4…). God will execute His Judgment in the Day of Judgment, so repent while there’s time!

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    You asked: You think owning people as property is moral right ? 

    My response...

    No, owning people who are created in the image of God is not morally or ethically "right" nor does our Creator think so. God would have much preferred that man live in love toward God and toward one another but man "chose" narcissism as opposed to love; man chose rebellion to God as opposed to obedience and peace and contentment; therefore, God is simply permitting man's free will to play-out upon the Earth and mankind is reaping what he has sown in disobedience. God, in the Covenant of Law, interceded with boundaries and edicts concerning the horrors of slavery and infused a form of mercy and tolerance in an institution that was pagan and barbaric. In the midst of this confusion and tumult, God is seeking men and women who desire to know Him, love Him and spend Eternity with Him; unfortunately, only a "few" will seek God with their whole heart and find Him though He is not far from any one of us.









  • @MayCaesar God is a Gentleman and will honor your decision to reject life with Him in Eternity as you reject Jesus Christ as Lord for the mediation of your sin. No worries...you will reap what you sow.
    Happy_Killbotsmoothie
  • @Happy_Killbot Progressives are radial, socialist, atheist. If interested, I have written on the insanity of Progressivism from its founding to it fruition in the 21st-Century >>> http://https//rickeyholtsclaw.com/2018/01/26/progressivism-satans-party-of-death/



    Happy_Killbotsmoothie
  • @RickeyD So... What if the devil made up Jesus so that everyone would worship him as an idol, and turn away from the one true god?

    Think about it: everyone in history who converted to Christianity is burning in hell for following a false profit.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot ; You are free to call Jesus Christ a liar but He spoke clearly concerning the god of the Atheist i.e. Satan, the Devil.
  • @RickeyD Radial... Like a sun dial?

    socialist... Like Trump?

    Atheist... like literally everyone from birth, until they are indoctrinated into whatever BS is prevalent in their family and society?
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @RickeyD I don't think you and I would get along very well.

    You might find me a little too "loud" for your liking.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @RickeyD Yeah, but how ironic would it be if the "father of lies" is playing everyone the fool?

    Your immortal soul lies on the edge of eternal torment!

    How sure are you that this isn't the case? It does sound like something the devil would do doesn't it?

    After all, the contradictions in the bible can only be found when comparing old and new testaments.

     "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30

    “No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18

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    “…thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. ” — Exodus 21:23-25

    “…ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” — Matthew 5:39

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    “This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.” — Genesis 17:10

    “…if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.” — Galatians 5:2

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    “Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart…” — Ecclesiastes 9:7

    “…they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not…” — 1 Corinthians 7:30

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    “Honor thy father and thy mother…”– Exodus 20:12

    “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. ” — Luke 14:26

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    That seems like solid evidence that something truly insidious is going on!

    THE DEVIL INVENTED JESUS TO STEAL THE SOULS OF ALL WHO BELIEVE IN HIM AS A FALSE IDOL, IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE LORD'S COMMANDMENT: "THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME"

    Save your soul while you still can!

    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot If you're an atheist and a progressive socialist...you're correct....we are enemies from the heart...
  • @RickeyD I'm just trying to save you from eternity in hell! Don't be so harsh.

    We are enemies because I like motorcycles, and I saw on your blog that you have a group against them. I don't think that difference should stop me from doing what is right in God's eyes and telling you the truth before it's too late!
    RickeyD
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot If you would like to debate any of your alleged "contradictions" posted above...let's debate them one at a time and allow me to fully respond before you post another. Up for that debate, atheist?
  • @Happy_Killbot ; Would you like to debate these alleged contradictions one at a time...if so, post your favorite first and allow me to respond before you continue...up for it or are you an atheistic coward like most I have interacted with?
    Happy_Killbotsmoothie
  • RickeyDRickeyD 212 Pts
    edited November 25
    @Happy_Killbot I spent a good part of my life on motorcycles, rode professionally for the Houston PD. I don't believe anyone is above the law and I don't believe any motorcyclist has the right to modify or replace their legal, quiet, OEM, factory-installed muffler for one that emits 4-12X (logarithmic) the legal, total, Db(A) of 80 Db(A) as defined by the US EPA as per their SAE J331a drive-by testing procedure. Every man and woman has the right to live in domestic tranquility void the intrusion of illegal motorcycle, auto, truck, noise. The US EPA and 49-States prohibit this illegal behavior, I stand against the LOUD Biker thugs in America. Prove me wrong.
    Happy_Killbot
  • @RickeyD Let's start with this one then move down the list because it clearly shows that the devil made up Jesus.

     "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30

    “No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18

    The book of Genesis makes it clear. Not to mention Adam and eve in the garden interacted with God. This also contradicts Isaiah 6:1 "In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple." Although I will give you a free pass her because this is in a vision, so it doesn't count on technicality.

    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot You suggest there is a contradiction here: "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30 v.“No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18

    God is Spirit (John 4:24) and He is not visible in His spiritual form to any man who is constrained by senses constrained by the Realm of Time. If a man were to see God in His Spiritual form, he would die (Exodus 33:20). What Jacob saw and wrestled with was an angel of the Lord that is believed to be the pre-Incarnate Yeshua called a Christophany. Jesus Christ-Yeshua is God and worked throughout the Covenant of Law (Genesis 18) and the Covenant of Grace in both His pre-Incarnate and Incarnate form. Jacob did see God but not in Spirit but in flesh as did everyone who observed the body of Jesus Christ-Yeshua as He walked among mankind for 33.5-years in the flesh of a man while being fully God as well.



  • @Happy_Killbot " What Jacob saw and wrestled with was an angel of the Lord that is believed to be the pre-Incarnate Yeshua called a Christophany"

    The bible doesn't say this, so I can only assume you are making it up. Is there any evidence from the bible to suggest this?
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot No one is making anything up...the fact that Jacob wrestled with the angel of the Lord is in the text and that he saw God face-to-face. https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.org/2018/07/30/jacob-wrestle-man-or-angel/
  • @RickeyD Alright, but do you have evidence of this from the bible, and preferably from the old testament, on account of for all we know the Devil may have invented Jesus?

    If you don't have evidence, then this is just speculation that it was an angle of the Lord and not just the Lord.

    Keep in mind, I am doing you a huge favor here by even allowing you to use the bible as evidence, because besides that you have nothing. You owe me for allowing you this privilege.

    If you have no evidence that it was not God himself who wrestled with Jacob, then the point stands, and you may very well have to accept eternal hellfire for following a false profit.
    RickeyD
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot ; Satan is from Eternity past and is first mentioned in The Genesis. I owe you nothing for you are currently spiritually dead and one-exhalation from dying in your sin and ultimately dying in Hell in futility. You think yourself wise and cocky not understanding you're the fool of Time and Eternity.

    You should be grateful that I am obedient to my Lord and taking the time to warn you that unless you stop existing in the insanity of atheism, repent of your sin, believe in your heart, confess with your mouth, that Jesus Christ is God who died to pay your sin-debt and that He was resurrected for your justification...unless you believe and confess this with a sincere heart, you will die in sin and die in Hell without hope. You're NOT wiser than God, you are mere flesh that is dying moment-by-moment in foolishness and narcissism without hope! Jesus said...

  • @Happy_Killbot I guess if you don't have any evidence, then I guess it is plausible that the Devil invented Jesus.

    Of course, you already know that I don't believe that, and I know that you don't either, it's just an exercise to show how utterly insane fanatics like yourself sound.

    I consider this a victory, as signaled by your sudden bursts of rage, or your increased heart rate, dilated pupils, and red face. I don't care to continue this conversation, I argue to convince a third impartial party, not you. I think a majority reading through what is written here will agree.

    You already attribute atheism to Satan, so if it makes you feel any better maybe what I was saying this whole time is that atheists invented Jesus, some pretty sketchy things happened at the council of Nicaea, so I think you could make a solid argument there.

    You are over 60, statistically speaking you will be dead within a decade.

    It is a shame that you have wasted your life as a slave to an imaginary being, at this point there isn't much point in giving up your faith, your life is already spent, and society has already replaced you. It doesn't need you anymore.

    Let it be a slow, peaceful, quiet retirement. Free from noisy bikers, law breakers, and annoying liberals. Unless of course, you don't really want that being a cop for almost 32 years and what not, maybe you enjoy the excitement, and that's why you like to spend time screaming non-sense into the void, your only shelter from definite oblivion.

    Enjoy your retirement.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot Have it your way, it's your life and your Eternity. Thanks for the input. Enjoy your victory. Please remember I told you, unless you repent of sin and trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord, you have no hope.
    Happy_Killbotsmoothie
  • @RickeyD Ok boomer.
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation, Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root and developed into the human race, who conquered fire, built societies and developed technology .
    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • I don't see how Communist Party USA is such a threat to your agenda at the moment, but here we go again: center-right parties are not 'Communist' or 'Socialist'. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would've gone against Trump.

    Don't get me wrong, I've still supported Communism and Socialism in my political times, but this is a terrible dichotomy you have created, that any party that is not proclaiming to be patriotic, against abortion, etc. is 'Communist'.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 212 Pts
    edited November 26
    @LibertineStates ; There is no rebutting the truth that Progressive-Socialism is running the Democrat Party and that Progressive Socialism is death in abortion, death in sexual perversion, death in socialism. It is the foolish and the historically ignorant that supports such a demonic agenda and Satanically driven ideology. I explain this in my article, "Progressive Socialism - Party of Deception and Death" https://rickeyholtsclaw.com/2018/01/26/progressivism-satans-party-of-death/
     
    LibertineStates
  • @RickeyD Yet another case of using false dichotomy narratives.

    People have their various reasons for supporting a particular party, and it may not be because of policy. Some may have family who support a particular party, and even then the two parties are not that much different in policy they have actually acted upon.
    Happy_Killbot
  • @LibertineStates Irrespective of the reason, the outcome remains unchanged. If you vote for a Progressive-Socialist, you vote for the death of babies in the womb; you vote for sexual perversion destroying our posterity; you vote for socialism that is responsible for 100-million-deaths in the last 100-years.  Only the morally debased, a traitor to the United States and those who are historically ignorant could vote for a Progressive Democrat.
    smoothie
  • @RickeyD I hate to resort to these types of arguments, but now that you have unwisely brought the subject of 'who was more 'moral' than who?' into the discussion, was 'socialism and communism' responsible for the Indonesian mass killings of 1965-66? Was it also responsible for the Rwandan genocide? was it also responsible for the Crusades?  Was the 'communist and socialist' version of the CIA behind so many deposed communist leaders throughout the 20th-21st century? I think not.
  • @LibertineStates I too am sickened communicating with a communist but I'll do my best.

    1) The Crusades were Catholic, not Christian, and the Crusades were a reasonable response to the Islamic Caliphate that was enslaving, butchering, Jews and Christians and though the Crusaders were unsuccessful after some 300-years of war, they fought with honor and bravery. The Islamic Caliphate continued for 1400-yrs until stopped in 1924 but not before butchering 270-million non-Muslims. The Progressive-Socialist Party in America supports Islam and its death.

    2) Socialism is responsible for 100-million deaths in the last 100-years and if you support Leninism-Marxism please take your traitorous self to Venezuela and rid America of one less infidel.  

    3) Was not Communism and those who struggled to smash its venomous head responsible for the Indonesian mass killings of 1965-66? Wherever there is a Communist, there is suffering and death.

    4) What has the Hutu and Tutsi to do with Progressive-Socialist traitors in America?

    5) I don't know what the CIA has done...I can only speculate...are there socialists and communists in America's CIA today? Yes!

    6) If you support the Progressive - Socialist - Democrats in America, don't hypocritically point to mass murder when the blood of 61-million American babies is on your hands.

    7) If you support the Progressive - Socialist - Democrats in America, don't speak of war while you support defecating on the grave of every young man who fought and died to defend America from the evil of Socialism-Communism!  You're a hypocrite traitor!



    LibertineStatessmoothie
  • My point is that blaming Communism and Socialism for literally every problem that occurred in the world is just wrong and lazy on so many levels, and telling me to 'go back to Venezuela, you traitor' is not an argument.
  • So you hate poor people? How Christian of you.
  • @YeshuaRedeemed ; The only Party taking advantage of poor people is the Progressive-Democrats...you know, the ones who murder babies and advocate for sexual perversion killing our youth and advocate for socialism and open borders destroying the lives of the American poor...that Party.
  • RickeyD said:
    @YeshuaRedeemed ; The only Party taking advantage of poor people is the Progressive-Democrats...you know, the ones who murder babies and advocate for sexual perversion killing our youth and advocate for socialism and open borders destroying the lives of the American poor...that Party.
    That is a conservative lie. Conservative compassion stops at birth.
  • @RickeyD

    Yet any of those cities is still much safer than, say, virtually any place in Kenya, a country ruled by a group of deep Christian believers. Or any place in Syria, a country overrun by various Islamic groups.

    Religious zealousy is not a good answer to socialist zealousy. I have lived in countries ruled by both kinds, and I honestly do not know which I dislike more. Socialist zealousy ravages economies and puts societies in fear, while religious zealousy ravages human souls and puts societies in despair.

    The best system is the one that leaves people alone, and all of you worshippers of various implementations of the Big Brother, be it "God", or "Great Chairman", or "Fuhrer", are off the mark here.
  • @YeshuaRedeemed ; There is no compassion in murdering a child in the protective confines of the mother's womb. You have the blood of 61-million babies on your hands and you have the audacity, the hypocrisy, to speak of compassion.


  • RickeyD said:
    @YeshuaRedeemed ; There is no compassion in murdering a child in the protective confines of the mother's womb. You have the blood of 61-million babies on your hands and you have the audacity, the hypocrisy, to speak of compassion.


    Abortion is not murder, mind your own business. What I am saying is conservatives love money more than poor people.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 212 Pts
    edited November 27
    @YeshuaRedeemed ; Abortion is the destruction of innocent life and a violation of the murdered child's 5th and 14th Amendment "due process" protections relevant to the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one has the right to murder a baby at any age and to do so is the most vile and wicked sin known to mankind. There is forgiveness for abortion in Jesus Christ.


  • @YeshuaRedeemed ; Abortion is the destruction of innocent life and a violation of the murdered child's 5th and 14th Amendment "due process" protections relevant to the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one has the right to murder a baby at any age and to do so the most vile and wicked sin known to mankind. There is forgiveness for abortion in Jesus Christ.


  • @MayCaesar How exactly does Socialism 'put societies in fear'?
  • RickeyD said:
    @YeshuaRedeemed ; Abortion is the destruction of innocent life and a violation of the murdered child's 5th and 14th Amendment "due process" protections relevant to the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one has the right to murder a baby at any age and to do so the most vile and wicked sin known to mankind. There is forgiveness for abortion in Jesus Christ.


    No it isn't.
  • @LibertineStates ; Socialism is a fractured society between the bourgeoisie and the proletariat were there is fear of loss and death from the evil that accompanies absolute power void checks and balances. 100-million people have suffered and died under socialist regimes in the last 100-years.


  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 2310 Pts
    edited November 27
    @LibertineStates

    When all the means of your survival belong to the collective, then you become dependent on the collective. The fear that one day the collective will decide to deny you means of survival keeps people weak and obedient, and this is one of the main reasons all real socialist societies have always devolved into totalitarianism.

    I invite you to travel to Cuba and talk to the regular people about their everyday struggles. Cuba is probably the last majorly socialist nation on Earth which is relatively open to tourists, and it is authentic enough that you can get a taste of what socialism reduces individuals to.
  • @YeshuaRedeemed ; If you're so blinded by your father, Satan, that you can't see abortion is murder of the most innocent...I can't help you.



  • @MayCaesar Using the most extreme examples of an ideology to prove that the entire ideology is useless. That's laughable. Guess what? the failure of Cuba was caused by US's massive sanctions, not socialism. socialism has only failed because the CIA wants them to fail, and I can do the same thing with Singapore, Bahrain, Qatar, etc. rich countries who have failed at human rights. I could list off numerous capitalist countries who have conceivably 'failed', and to act like every socialist country is basically the collective threatening everyone else's rights is such a blanket statement.
    PlaffelvohfenCYDdharta
  • @LibertineStates ; You're either ignorant of the truth, brainwashed by historical revisionism or you're lying. Socialism always fails. http://www.aei.org/publication/why-socialism-always-fails/
    LibertineStates
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