Atheistic confusion concerning Christian "Faith" - a discussion

MayCaesar

Your claims on your relationship with god take me back to the middle school years... Back when boys were constantly having relationships with girls who were not even aware that they were in those relationships.

"I am in a relationship with Mary from the other group!"
"Really?! How did it happen?"
"Well, uh, it happened."
"Did you kiss already?"
"No, not yet."
"Did you, at least, go out for a date?"
"Soon, definitely."
"Wait, so did you actually interact in any way?"
"Well, you know, I saw her on a break between classes and said Hi to her."
"That is it?"
"Yes, for now."
"That is not a relationship, ."
"But I like her, and she obviously likes me as well. It will happen!"
"Does she even know your name?"
"She will eventually!"
"..."

In those cases though, at least we were talking about real, tangible girls one can touch with their hands. Here you are talking about a relationship with a being that does not even exist. When is the first imaginary date, Rickey? With a picnic on the clouds?

Dee

@RickeyD

Your whole argument is circular and just more repetitive B S try a new one maybe?

RickeyD

@Dee ; It would not matter, Dee...you are unable to understand. Sorry.

Dee

@RickeyD

**** it would not matter, Dee...you are unable to understand. Sorry.

Oh but I do understand that your arguments are circular and this invalid , the problem for you is you do not understand which is probably due to your poor education 

Dee

@RickeyD

**** it would not matter, Dee...you are unable to understand. Sorry.

Oh but I do understand that your arguments are circular and thus invalid , the problem for you is you do not understand which is probably due to your poor education 

AlofRI

Sorry, I don't feel the least bit "confused". I likely WOULD if I had become enraptured about an invisible rabbit or was hearing a talking snowman … whatever. But, since I haven't, I feel kind of "in control". I'm not even worried about this "Satan" (also invisible guy) because I don't have any use for him or his (its) opinion. Since I'm not afraid, or don't believe in the rabbit, I have nothing to fear from the other guy, either. But YOU, RickyD, YOU are scary. If my kids were small, I'd keep them away from you! So THEY don't become confused. 

piloteer

RickeyD said:

@Dee ; It would not matter, Dee...you are unable to understand. Sorry.

You seem well read in bible verse. One thing that strikes me as illogical is that Christians can only tell us what God is not, or what heaven will not be, but they have no trouble embracing the fact that they have no idea what those things actually are. As Ayn Rand put it, "to exist is to possess identity. What identity are they able to give to their superior realm? They keep telling you what it is not, but never tell you what it is. All their identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, they say—and proceed to demand that you consider it knowledge—God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Their definitions are not acts of defining, but of wiping out." In what sense can faith, as opposed to demonstrable knowledge be considered logical? How is it not faith just out of fear of reprisal from God, and not faith because you actually believe it or want it to be true?