say the magic words.. - The Best Online Debate Website | DebateIsland.com - Debate Anything The Best Online Debate Website | DebateIsland.com
frame

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

DebateIsland.com is the best online debate website. We're the only online debate website with Casual, "Persuade Me," Formalish, Traditional Formal, and Lincoln-Douglas online debate formats. Debate popular topics, debate news, or debate anything! Debate online for free! DebateIsland is a leading online debate website and is utilizing Artificial Intelligence to transform online debating.


The best online Debate website - DebateIsland.com! The only Online Debate Website with Casual, Persuade Me, Formalish, and Formal Online Debate formats. We’re the Leading Online Debate website. Debate popular topics, Debate news, or Debate anything! Debate online for free!

say the magic words..
in Religion

By maxxmaxx 251 Pts
if we were to accept God as real and he can do all the bible says he has done and can do, then is he not magic? As well and if so, does not God place magic in the realm of witches and place witches in the realm of the devil?



Debra AI Prediction

Predicted To Win
Predicted 2nd Place
22%
Margin

Details +



Arguments

  • AlofRIAlofRI 829 Pts
    UMMMMM, I don't believe so.  :smirk:
  • Nope. Not at all.
    Lover, hunter, friend and enemy
    You will always be every one of these
    Nothing's fair in love and war.
  • The magic words according to teachers are currently please,excuse me,pardon me,sorry and thank you
  • @DebateChamp
    Cool. That's nice.
    Lover, hunter, friend and enemy
    You will always be every one of these
    Nothing's fair in love and war.
  • SandSand 213 Pts
    As technology improves so does the understanding of the so-called miracles in the Bible.
    I believe that God uses higher technology.
    The two realms that are touched on in the Bible is the spiritual realm and physical realm, but are said to be created by God.
    This viewpoint leads me to believe that God is not part of either one of them. That he exists in a third realm we know nothing about.

    The conversations and events with mankind in the physical realm are performed by representatives of God from the spiritual realm.
    So when the Bible says God does this or that, it is actually an Angel doing this or that.
    The Bible writers or people who experience the event always say it was God but later are inspired to write it was an Angel.
    Because Angels are in the spiritual realm the physical realm is like a computer program to them.
    This is where they can make their own Avatar and do what they want to the physical realm.
    But there seems to be a limit of their effect to the physical realm, there is some kind of hardcore rules that were put in place when the physical realm was created.
    The Bible indicates that if mankind worked together that they would be able to accomplish the same things plus more.
    This is what leads me to believe it is more science-based.

    Because there are two groups in the spiritual realm, one group who follow the orders of God and the other group who have various agendas.
    This is where the warning of staying away from "Magic" comes from.
    It is God's warning to stay away from Angels that are not associated with his group, aka the Demons, who are actually former Angels.

    Obviously, because they know higher science their actions would be seen as miracles also, but with a different thrust or agenda.
    Witches do not have power, they just speak with Demons in the Spiritual realm, who manipulate things.

    It is interesting that, to my understanding, Demons cannot materialize bodies anymore.
    This is a glimpse of God's ability to adjust the spiritual realm.
    He made it so that only Angels in his group still had the ability to materialize bodies.
    So Demons tend to focus on the predictability of events, hexing persons, and pretense of dead people.
    Demons like to promote superstitious ideas, like dead people are still alive and able to contact.
    Or like persons can give you objects that increase your "Luck", or place roots on you that reduces your "Luck".
    There are some people who have documented speaking with such ones and gotten some interesting explanations of the spiritual realm.
    That is why the Bible calls Satan the God of Good Luck.


    LukeQLD
  • maxxmaxx 251 Pts
    assuming that the idea of
    god using a higher technology and has created both the physical and spiritual realms; yet exists in a third real; then that begs the question onhow the third realm came about. It would seem impossible to use science to create ones self. @Sand
  • SandSand 213 Pts

    Yes, but understanding makes the impossible, possible.
    It was once thought impossible to fly, build above a certain level, travel to the moon, etc.

    There is a reason why God speaks in symbolism, I believe it is because it is hard to explain.
    The way God describes Angels with wings. Now we know they literally do not have wings, but the connotation is to help men understand that they can move from one location to another very quickly, like flying.
    God one time gave Jacob a vision of Angels climbing a latter.

    We cannot jump to conclusions, and assume the way it needs to be.
    There is no indication that God created himself.
    There is no indication that God is alone.
    The question we need to answer is are we a product of intelligence or not.
    The answer is obvious because man is unable to spell out exactly how to make life.
    That information is beyond the intelligence of man now, meaning our existence is more intelligent than we are now.
    So God does exist, the information of the realms is what we are lacking.
    By mentioning three realms, I denote there are two barriers to our understanding.
    Imagine explaining colors to someone who was born blind.
    It would be very difficult.
    So the task of explaining the laws that govern the spiritual universe to someone who was born in the physical universe.
    Let alone, trying to explain the laws that govern God's realm to someone who was born in the spiritual universe.
    It would be very difficult.

    The best thing we can do is learn more.
    Explore and dig. 

    Really read this scripture:
    Romans 1:18-23 - "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures."

    which is known about God is evident within them
    God somehow signed his work.

    His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature
    He mentions three ways

    being understood through what has been made
    Analyze the components of life, what was made?
    The engine is useless if it doesn't have a transmission, the transmission is useless if it doesn't have an axle. All the parts are needed, the likely hood of this coming by chance is highly more likely than the human body.
    There are so many systems in existence that are so essential to balance life, yet every part is here and functioning.

    men who suppress the truth
    exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures
    He says it himself that man will prevent the truth and give praise to animals.

    The goal is to get men to dig more, to challenge holes in man's big bang theory so more will be learned, then we will discover more governing factors, more governing laws, and better ways to discern the information.
    Because the Bible says when men work together nothing is impossible for him.
    We can discover everything about these realms.
    It's not going to be easy, it is not going to be quick.
    But one day we will understand, and then we will make the impossible,......possible.

Sign In or Register to comment.

Back To Top

DebateIsland.com

| The Best Online Debate Experience!
2019 DebateIsland.com, All rights reserved. DebateIsland.com | The Best Online Debate Experience! Debate topics you care about in a friendly and fun way. Come try us out now. We are totally free!

Contact us

customerservice@debateisland.com
Awesome Debates
BestDealWins.com
Terms of Service

Get In Touch