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I Am Prepared To Disprove God Right Here On DI

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You heard it right here.

I am putting my squeaky-clean reputation on the line to disprove the existence of God.

Now, would anyone care to start the ball rolling and cite me a proof for me to disprove?
[Deleted User]Happy_KillbotRickeyDThorIdeaoftheEndless
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  • Oh okay then plzz start...  :)
  • https://www.loc.gov/item/37015519/

    these are historilogical records of Jesus Christ documented ressurections, officially certified by the United States of Congress under sections: 

    2 U.S. Code § 145.Copies of journals and documents


    2 U.S. Code § 131.Collections composing Library; location


    2 U.S. Code § 171.Congressional declaration of findings and purpose as to Center for the Book


    The Congress hereby finds and declares—
    (1)
    that the Congress of the United States on April 24, 1800, established for itself a library of the Congress;
    (2)
    that in 1815, the Congress purchased the personal library of the third President of the United States which contained materials on every science known to man and described such a collection as a “substratum of a great national library”;
    (3)
    that the Congress of the United States in recognition of the importance of printing and its impact on America purchased the Gutenberg Bible in 1930 for the Nation for placement in the Library of Congress;
    (4)
    that the Congress of the United States has through statute and appropriations made this library accessible to any member of the public;
    (5)
    that this collection of books and other library materials has now become one of the greatest libraries in civilization;
    (6)
    that the book and the printed word have had the most profound influence on American civilization and learning and have been the very foundation on which our democratic principles have survived through our two hundred-year history;
    (7)
    that in the year 1977, the Congress of the United States assembled hereby declares its reaffirmation of the importance of the printed word and the book and recognizes the importance of a Center for the Book to the continued study and development of written record as central to our understanding of ourselves and our world.
    It is therefore the purpose of sections 171 to 175 of this title to establish a Center for the Book in the Library of Congress to provide a program for the investigation of the transmission of human knowledge and to heighten public interest in the role of books and printing in the diffusion of this knowledge.

    that was a quick failure on your part,. 
    ZacharyZachHappy_KillbotPlaffelvohfen
  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @JesusistheonlyGod777
    that was a quick failure on your part,. 

    To put it mildly, you do not have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about.
    The US Congress recognising that a version of the Bible resides in the Congressional museum has absolutely diddlysquat to do with being anywhere remotely proof of the existence of God.
    PlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    @Swolliw ; Every man and woman possessing at least a modicum of cognitive acuity intuitively knows that our Creator exists and it is the the "fool" that denies same (Psalm 14:1; Romans 1:18-32). Even your god, Dawkins, states that proving there is no God is impossible. There is no way for you to search every nook and cranny of the Universe and verify that God is not there...I can only assume you're a radical sodomite with a hate-God-complex because of your obsession with your genitalia; therefore, you fail atheist. LOL...your "reputation" is certainly "squeaky" but it's not clean, atheist, you're a sinner headed to death in Hell in your obstinance and naivete.

     
    Happy_KillbotRS_masterxlJ_dolphin_473
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    edited October 8


    dup
     
    Happy_Killbot
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    edited October 8

    dup
     
    Happy_Killbot
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts

     
    Happy_KillbotZacharyZach
  • To begin the discussion, when you refer to disproving God, do you mean in the sense to disprove and replace with another religious entity, or to disprove the idea of a God or higher power in any case?
  • @RickeyD You are fooled by fiction. The bible is a book full of fiction and fantasies and you believe in fantasies? "God created the everything in 7 days,"  For one, there is no god. 2ndly, "god" did not create the universe in 7 days. He created the universe for infinite time because the universe is still growing and the universe is 13.8 trillion years old whereas humans are 1 million years old. Give me a logical rebuttal.
    Thanks
    ZacharyZachRickeyDPlaffelvohfen
  • @RS_master The purpose of this debate is to disprove the existence of God. Contribute information to better support your position or don't post anything at all.
    Happy_KillbotRS_masterRickeyDPlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473
  • Wow... This whole thing went right over every theist's head and I find that hilarious.

    The whole point is that OP needs a proof to disprove god, but since there is no proof of god (since god is unfalsifiable) he doesn't need to disprove god.

    So, the best arguments we have are: "I feel that way, so true" from Rickey, "The Library of Congress has some books" from Jesusistheonlygod777, and "could you please define your terms?" from ZacharyZach.

    Like asking farm animals to solve basic arithmetic, the theists have largely dropped the ball.
    Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @RS_master The purpose of this debate is to disprove the existence of God. Contribute information to better support your position or don't post anything at all.
    @ZacharyZach Agreed, but I was rebutting a previous argument by @RickeyD ;

    Everything had a start i.e. Humans, chimps, mammals, animals, living beings, planets, stars, nebulae, galaxies, the universe...   but how did the so-called-god start?
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    edited October 8
    @RS_master ; You are fooled by your god, Satan, and your aberrant lust and for this you will die in sin and die in Hell lest you repent (John 8:24)

    .


    Happy_KillbotZacharyZach
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    edited October 8

    1) God created the Heavens and the Earth and your genome in 6-literal 24-hr days for cause with rapidity.
    2) You cannot date the Earth because the Earth and the Universe were created mature just as Elohim created a mature Adam and Eve and plant life and the beasts of the field and the birds of the air and the fish in the sea...C-14 is impotent while the Holy Spirit dates the Earth through the genealogy of Messiah through Mary through Heli to Adam in Luke's Gospel.  

    You are dying in your sin by the second and headed to death in Hell and you've been duped by men with an agenda...this IS your fault.


    ZacharyZach
  • @Happy_Killbot To define the terms is to define the conversation. Many people of different faiths have attempted to disprove God to bring forth their own. I am asking what angle the OP is coming from, then I can determine the best response.
  • @ZacharyZach ;
    I understand perfectly well why you would want definitions, but if you are asking for OP's definitions, you are missing the point, because OP is looking for yours.

    He isn't here to prove any position in particular, he is here to demonstrate that theists don't have proof in the first place.
    PlaffelvohfenxlJ_dolphin_473
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    Happy_Killbot
  • To prove that there is no God would be just of a difficult a task as it is to prove God does exist. To disprove God, you have to venture to every corner of the universe to show that God is not there. However, while you may be searching for God on one planet, they could be on another. To prove God does not exist, you must have omnipresence, or else the possibility still exists.
    RickeyDHappy_Killbot[Deleted User]
  • Happy_KillbotHappy_Killbot 3133 Pts
    edited October 8
    @RickeyD ;

    Meme review time!


    Atheist Bible Memes

    As an atheist what stops me from killing someone right now and saying I  have no God who told me not to - Quora
    ZacharyZachPlaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • ZacharyZachZacharyZach 23 Pts
    edited October 8
    @Happy_Killbot Fair point to make, the only difference between God and a baseball is that a baseball is a physical thing, while God is instead something beyond physical.
    RickeyDHappy_KillbotPlaffelvohfen
  • @ZacharyZach ;
    To prove that there is no God would be just of a difficult a task as it is to prove God does exist. To disprove God, you have to venture to every corner of the universe to show that God is not there. However, while you may be searching for God on one planet, they could be on another. To prove God does not exist, you must have omnipresence, or else the possibility still exists.
    The same is true for pink fluffy unicorns is it not? What about cave trolls? or pixies?

    Why should anyone believe in any of these things but not the others?

    You have the burden of proof.
    Fair point to make, the only difference between God and a baseball is that a baseball is a physical thing, while God is instead something beyond physical.
    This does nothing to alleviate your burden of proof. If you hold that your god exists, you have to prove it, no one has to disprove it.

    That's the point you missed.
    Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • nothing from romir, as expected.

    Triumph!
    Happy_Killbot[Deleted User]
  • @JesusistheonlyGod777 ;

    romir7 isn't the OP. 
    [Deleted User]
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • DeeDee 2843 Pts
    @ZacharyZach

    The burden of proof is with the one making the affirmative claim you cabbage not the other way around 
    Plaffelvohfen
  • Swolliw said:
    You heard it right here.

    I am putting my squeaky-clean reputation on the line to disprove the existence of God.

    Now, would anyone care to start the ball rolling and cite me a proof for me to disprove?
    Can you even "prove" you exist within this thread? I would say no by the standards you'll use to "disprove God". You can't "prove" God by the way. Any worldview that says to correctly describe reality and how life arose, is unprovable at it's foundation. 

    If you want to prove you exist, feel free to start the ball rolling. Ill seek to use similar arguments made against God. If you can't even prove you exist, what's the point of going through the debate for God's existence?


  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @RickeyD
    Even your god, Dawkins, states that proving there is no God is impossible.

    That's right. Because it is impossible to disprove something that isn't proven in the first place. Which is the gist of this thread.
    I'm still waiting for someone to give me some (viable) proof for me to disprove.
    And I know that I will be waiting for the cows to come home.
  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @ZacharyZach
    To begin the discussion, when you refer to disproving God, do you mean in the sense to disprove and replace with another religious entity, or to disprove the idea of a God or higher power in any case?

    For the sake of argument... let's say any supernatural phenomena.
    Give me proof of any supernatural phenomenon.

  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @Happy_Killbot
    Like asking farm animals to solve basic arithmetic, the theists have largely dropped the ball.

    That's why I love threads like this. The site says to make all topics in question form. Fair enough, I play the game......and pose a rhetorical question.
    Then watch a bunch of headless chickens run around in circles.
    Happy_Killbot
  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @ZacharyZach
    To prove that there is no God would be just of a difficult a task as it is to prove God does exist.
    If God really does exist it would be easy to prove ....simple as that. Otherwise, you can quite rightly say that God does not exist.
    Imagine the world of chaos we would live in if we were to give in to the possibility that anything you could think of exists just because it can't be disproven. Just because I can't disprove the absurd notion that green elephants with wings exist it doesn't give anyone the right to say there is even a possibility that they exist. Same with God...it is an absurd notion.

  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @ZacharyZach
    while God is instead something beyond physical

    How do you know that?
    unless of course, you are making the preemptive assumption that God exists anyway and since he can't be detected, he is beyond physical.
    Anyway, there is no such thing as beyond physical.
  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    @Dee @JustinC
    If you want to prove you exist, feel free to start the ball rolling. Ill seek to use similar arguments made against God. If you can't even prove you exist, what's the point of going through the debate for God's existence?

    Well, I got up late this morning after one heck of a good night out last night, looked in the mirror and yep, I confirmed that, unfortunately, I exist alright. You may not think you exist but there are very good specialists around nowadays who can help you out with that.
    Anyway, stop dodging the issue. Given that we exist.....where is your proof of God's existence?
  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    @Swolliw ; You're consumed by the proof, silly atheist...and you reject it. God has proven Himself.


  • RickeyDRickeyD 694 Pts
    @Swolliw ; You're consumed by the proof, atheist...and you reject it. God has proven Himself.


  • Swolliw said:
    @Dee @JustinC
    If you want to prove you exist, feel free to start the ball rolling. Ill seek to use similar arguments made against God. If you can't even prove you exist, what's the point of going through the debate for God's existence?

    Well, I got up late this morning after one heck of a good night out last night, looked in the mirror and yep, I confirmed that, unfortunately, I exist alright.
    -- So your standard for proof is It's true for you? How do I know you're not a computer bot and lying. Or a group of people and not just one. In my opinion, you've not proved anything. 
    Is that the only burden for proving God? 


    Quote
    "Anyway, stop dodging the issue."
    -- It's not dodging when I expressed my view already. See below. 


    Quote
    "Given that we exist.....where is your proof of God's existence?"
    -- you must have missed this. Let me repost:

     I would say no by the standards you'll use to "disprove God". You can't "prove" God by the way. Any worldview that says to correctly describe reality and how life arose, is unprovable at it's foundation. 

  • @Swolliw

    Haha okay so ur disproving god (coz u think that it doesn't exist) and I think it exists...so let's start simply....

    so plzz answer me only 3 questions... :)

    1.Can u disprove god without any religion???

    2.Plzz show me scientific proof that god does not exist coz ik we are discussing on something we both don't know so plzzz give me any scientific logical proof (physics or chemistry discovery)stating that GOD DOESN'T EXIST???

    3.If u can answer everything plzz answer where does infinite end????....why we are born from nothingness???...why ur talking with me rk???.......how is everything so perfect...like perfect atmospheric pressure ....like perfect nature..like perfect universe....like perfectly we are here how we should be whyyyyy?lol 

    ................................................................................................................................................................................................................
     
    haha answer me this 3 question if u can then I would consider u disproved god  :)

    Peace
    Har Har Mahadev
  • @Swolliw
    Then watch a bunch of headless chickens run around in circles....

    haha yes I can also see a pack of hyenas...

    Peace
    Har Har Mahadev 
  • DeeDee 2843 Pts
    @JustinC


    . You can't "prove" God by the way.

    Thanks the heads up captain obvious , yes we all know you believe in a supernatural entity that cannot be seen , heard or touched but yet exists 
  • @RickeyD
    You're consumed by the proof, silly atheist...and you reject it. God has proven Himself.

    Common sense would say that you are wrong.
    So far, you nor anyone else in this forum has presented any evidence for me to disprove.

  • @romir7
    haha answer me this 3 question if u can then I would consider u disproved god  

    The thread respondents to present proof of God's existence and so far, you have failed to do so.
    Imbecilic questions hardly qualify as proof of God.
    [Deleted User]
  • @JustinC
    I would say no by the standards you'll use to "disprove God". You can't "prove" God by the way. Any worldview that says to correctly describe reality and how life arose, is unprovable at it's foundation. 

    You can't prove God because the simple fact is that there is no God to prove.
  • @Swolliw
    oh okay thankyou I got my answer lol...

    signing off...

    Peace
    Har Har Mahadev
  • Swolliw said:
    @JustinC
    I would say no by the standards you'll use to "disprove God". You can't "prove" God by the way. Any worldview that says to correctly describe reality and how life arose, is unprovable at it's foundation. 

    You can't prove God because the simple fact is that there is no God to prove.
    I had no idea someone proved it. Thanks for sharing. 
  • no response to the senatorial docket? 

    massive ######## failures! 
  • @RickeyD Weren't animals made after humans? I wonder why there were fossils before humans came. I wonder how humans came before sharks...
  • @RS_master Incorrect.

    Genesis1,

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was [a]formless and void, and darkness was over the [b]surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was [c]moving over the [d]surface of the waters. 3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

    6 Then God said, “Let there be [e]an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 God made the [f]expanse, and separated the waters which were below the [g]expanse from the waters which were above the [h]expanse; and it was so. 8 God called the [i]expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

    9 Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, “Let the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after [l]their kind [m]with seed in them”; and it was so. 12 The earth brought forth [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed after [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, after [r]their kind; and God saw that it was good. 13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

    14 Then God said, “Let there be [s]lights in the [t]expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; 15 and let them be for [u]lights in the [v]expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 God made the two [w]great lights, the greater [x]light [y]to govern the day, and the lesser [z]light [aa]to govern the night; He made the stars also. 17 God placed them in the [ab]expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and [ac]to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. 19 There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

    20 Then God said, “Let the waters [ad]teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth [ae]in the open [af]expanse of the heavens.” 21 God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

    24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after [ag]their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after [ah]their kind”; and it was so. 25 God made the beasts of the earth after [ai]their kind, and the cattle after [aj]their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

    26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the [ak]sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the [al]sky and over every living thing that [am]moves on the earth.” 29 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the [an]surface of all the earth, and every tree [ao]which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the [ap]sky and to every thing that [aq]moves on the earth [ar]which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. 31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.



  • @RickeyD
    Genesis1,1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    ......and on the seventh day, God invented fossils.
    Happy_KillbotRS_master
  • @Swolliw ; God did not need to invent fossils, sin produced fossils through death.


    SkepticalOne
  • RS_masterRS_master 182 Pts
    edited October 16
    RickeyD said:
    @Swolliw ; God did not need to invent fossils, sin produced fossils through death.


    @RickeyD ;How were rivers made so quickly? It takes 1, 000, 000 years at the very least for rivers to be made. On the 365, 000, 000th day the first river was made.

    I don't get how 420 million years got compressed in 1 day. The time between sharks and humans.

    Fossilised through sin? In that case, cars run on sin energy. Cars are a sin.
  • SwolliwSwolliw 594 Pts
    edited October 17
    @RS_master
    God did not need to invent fossils, sin produced fossils through death.

    Excellent research and conclusion there.
    And I think we have fast come to realise how sinful cars really are.

  • ThorThor 26 Pts
    @Swolliw
    Disprove god if u can without any religion?
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