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Should we scrap the Monarchy in the UK?

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Is it time we did away with the Monarchy of England?

I just had a skim read of this: http://pitchforkcosmonaut.org/what-are-the-arguments-for-and-against-a-monarchy-in-britain/. I saw some good arguments from both sides although I think the most persuasive came from the side that was against a monarchy. As it stands I am leaning to the side of being against having a monarchy. What do you think?






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  • Just bumping this as we now have a category for Europe. Yay! :+1:



  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 3702 Pts   -   edited February 23
    My understanding is that in the UK the monarchy is mostly just a tradition, and although nominally the king/queen holds quite a bit of power and can even single-handedly declare wars, in practice these powers are never used - and should they be used, most likely the parliament will prevent the action from happening.

    It is much worse in countries like Thailand or even Spain, where there are laws preventing the monarch from being openly criticized. In the UK, as I understand it, such laws are either non-existent, or non-used.

    As such, I do not think that this is such a big deal. Granted, it certainly is a relic of old times, completely unnecessary. It would be nice to "privatize" it: just give the royal family the Buckingham Palace to live in and cheer for them - and let the theory and practice match each other. ;)

    P.S. Would absolutely love to see here more discussion of other countries. It is just the US, the US, the US 99% of the time... Let us internationalize things up!
    ZeusAres42Debater123PlaffelvohfenJohn_C_87




  • MayCaesar said:
    My understanding is that in the UK the monarchy is mostly just a tradition, and although nominally the king/queen holds quite a bit of power and can even single-handedly declare wars, in practice these powers are never used - and should they be used, most likely the parliament will prevent the action from happening.

    It is much worse in countries like Thailand or even Spain, where there are laws preventing the monarch from being openly criticized. In the UK, as I understand it, such laws are either non-existent, or non-used.

    As such, I do not think that this is such a big deal. Granted, it certainly is a relic of old times, completely unnecessary. It would be nice to "privatize" it: just give the royal family the Buckingham Palace to live in and cheer for them - and let the theory and practice match each other. ;)

    P.S. Would absolutely love to see here more discussion of other countries. It is just the US, the US, the US 99% of the time... Let us internationalize things up!

    I agree with some of what you say here, especially about internationalizing things up.

    Moreover, it can be argued that the Monarchy is a big deal when money comes into it. Now, while the current Royal Family cannot be blamed for the sins of their ancestors that still doesn't excuse the fact that they have money which is technically and arguably rightfully not theirs. This money could also put to good use than is currently being done.
    MayCaesarPlaffelvohfen



  • Debater123Debater123 407 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 What I would do with the monarchy is to abolish all legal privileges given to the crown, but simply fund it with a smaller budget, because then, the stability it brings and tradition would be kept, and it(I would think) would appease the anti-monarchist factions to an extent.
    ZeusAres42
  • @ZeusAres42 What I would do with the monarchy is to abolish all legal privileges given to the crown, but simply fund it with a smaller budget, because then, the stability it brings and tradition would be kept, and it(I would think) would appease the anti-monarchist factions to an extent.


    That does sound like a fair and reasonable thing to do.
    Debater123



  • piloteerpiloteer 1222 Pts   -  
     we now have a category for Europe. Yay! :+1:
    Who's she? 
  • piloteerpiloteer 1222 Pts   -   edited February 27
    MayCaesar said:
    My understanding is that in the UK the monarchy is mostly just a tradition, and although nominally the king/queen holds quite a bit of power and can even single-handedly declare wars, in practice these powers are never used - and should they be used, most likely the parliament will prevent the action from happening.

    It is much worse in countries like Thailand or even Spain, where there are laws preventing the monarch from being openly criticized. In the UK, as I understand it, such laws are either non-existent, or non-used.

    As such, I do not think that this is such a big deal. Granted, it certainly is a relic of old times, completely unnecessary. It would be nice to "privatize" it: just give the royal family the Buckingham Palace to live in and cheer for them - and let the theory and practice match each other. ;)

    P.S. Would absolutely love to see here more discussion of other countries. It is just the US, the US, the US 99% of the time... Let us internationalize things up!

    I agree with some of what you say here, especially about internationalizing things up.

    Moreover, it can be argued that the Monarchy is a big deal when money comes into it. Now, while the current Royal Family cannot be blamed for the sins of their ancestors that still doesn't excuse the fact that they have money which is technically and arguably rightfully not theirs. This money could also put to good use than is currently being done.
    I'm going to claim ignorance on the issue because I do not have a saturated understanding of the laws or traditions that go with the culture of the monarchy. One question I do have is how is it that the current Royal family are not the rightful owners of money they have? I think this seems to be an important aspect of the argument against the continued existence of the monarchy, and so I've taken it upon myself to crown myself a knight of the crown and shall do my best to serve your Queens honor by attempting to persuade people about a subject I have absolutely no idea about. But really, I feel the best way for me to learn anything about the culture of the monarchy, and British culture as a whole would be to try my best to make a counterargument to whatever your argument is. Of course I would need to hear the argument first to be able to do that, and of course you've only eluded to bits and pieces of said argument in that oh so overtly polite British way (meanwhile that dark sarcasm y'all got is always like a loaded pistol at the ready in a nano-moments notice if things get ugly).
    ZeusAres42
  • @MayCaesar
    My understanding is we had been debating the United states of law, not the self-governing lands called states.
  • Parliament never gave itself powers of electing King and Queen that right befalls the Church and Military with a prime minister as tie-breaker. How religious input the political bureaucracy of the Monarchy always had a lot to do with Marriage. With the past events of England, you might see how the dismissal of the Queen may not be viewed as a necessity by either church or the military.
    ZeusAres42
  • TreeManTreeMan 95 Pts   -  
    The queen is unnecessary
    everything the royals used to own should be given to a museum, and their benefits removed
    so their normal citizens 
    ZeusAres42
  • @TreeMan
    You might want to understand any Knight is not for sale nor are the property of the Queen directly, to be given or taken away from the honor that binds them to service.
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