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What is the true definition of "ad hominem"?
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@Blastcat
"I am very happy that you would like to repair our very damaged relationship.
I really dislike insults.
So, for now, lets not talk about Dee. Lets talk about you and I.
We got off on the wrong foot, and I would like for us to be able to engage one another even though we disagree on certain things."
It is a good place to start. Personal talks are the best way to repair.
"As to my ideas concerning ad hominems, I wonder if you know what those are. You say they are too broad.
We can start by talking about that."
Okay, here's where you go wrong about ad hominems. Let me give you an example, then I'll explain how this isn't ad hominem.
"Right...especially if that 'water' happens to have the same number of electrons spinning around the oxygen atoms as the hydrogen. In which case, it is going to do more than just make Scientist 2's teeth go white and bright. See if you can work that out." (From "Can You Die from Drinking Water")
You accused it to be ad hominem, but it wasn't a rude comment. The translation of ad hominem is "to the person". You are taking the translation as the definition. The definition is "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining." so he was going against my point, not me directly.
"I am very happy that you would like to repair our very damaged relationship.
I really dislike insults.
So, for now, lets not talk about Dee. Lets talk about you and I.
We got off on the wrong foot, and I would like for us to be able to engage one another even though we disagree on certain things."
It is a good place to start. Personal talks are the best way to repair.
"As to my ideas concerning ad hominems, I wonder if you know what those are. You say they are too broad.
We can start by talking about that."
Okay, here's where you go wrong about ad hominems. Let me give you an example, then I'll explain how this isn't ad hominem.
"Right...especially if that 'water' happens to have the same number of electrons spinning around the oxygen atoms as the hydrogen. In which case, it is going to do more than just make Scientist 2's teeth go white and bright. See if you can work that out." (From "Can You Die from Drinking Water")
You accused it to be ad hominem, but it wasn't a rude comment. The translation of ad hominem is "to the person". You are taking the translation as the definition. The definition is "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining." so he was going against my point, not me directly.
"I will never change who I am just because you do not approve."
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