Should guns be illegal in the U.S.?

anarchist100

No.

Guns provide an enormous amount of Freedom by putting people's protection in their own hands, it allows people to have a lot for Freedom in regards to where they travel, and live.

While deaths by gun violence are a tragedy, I imagine that if everyone where armed they would go down quite a lot because how well is someone going to do shooting up a crowd full of armed people?

But even if gun violence was still a huge problem that could be solved almost entirely by gun bans, it would still not be worth it, the people who die of gun violence number from the hundreds to the thousands, compared to everyone else, which depending on your country numbers from millions to billions, it is worth it for a few hundred/thousand people to die so that literally everyone else can enjoy this Liberty. Control over your life is essential for a tolerable existence.

Bogan

The question about guns in schools basically boils down to a number of problems that most people do not want to look at.      First, are guns the problem?    I say that the severity of a nations gun laws are a litmus paper test of how violent that society is.   Violent societies full of dysfunctional and violent minorities as well as a media promoted culture of extreme violence probably do need strict gun laws, but then comes the problem that governments that do not trust their own citizens with firearms are not worthy of trust themselves.    Peaceful societies do not need strict gun laws.    

The answers to these problems seem obvious to me.      The advanced western societies should recognise that some races and ethnicities are intrinsically violent, and that first of all they should stop importing them into their societies.     Second, pay them not to breed.   Since most of them are on welfare anyway, this does not seem to be an insurmountable problem.    Third, recognise that within these dysfunctional races and ethnicities there are good people with brains.     So intelligent and successful males from these dysfunctional minorities should be allowed to have as many wives as they can afford to keep, in the hope that eugenics will eventually allow their races to improve genetically.      The females from these demographics should be encouraged to have as many kids as possible.  

Another solution is to recognise that the messages in the media can and does affect behaviour, especially the behaviour of low IQ people from any race or ethnicity, but especially those ethnicities who's Bell curve's of group intelligence is far below that of the more successful races.    The already extant censorship of the entertainment media, which is designed to protect children from adult concepts which they have no mature understanding of, should be increased to include the undeniable fact that some people have levels of maturity much lower than their chronological age, and they must be protected too.    Do we as a society really need pop stars being the unofficial advertising arm of the illegal drug industry?     Do we really need pop stars singing "songs" about raping their mothers,  bashing their "hoes', or glamourising violent street gang behaviour?    Do we really need "revenge" type violent movies teaching our young and that Real Men are violent men, who never get mad, they get even with a gun, a knife, or a box of matches?

John_C_87

@theinfectedmaster

I have a better question you can ask.
How are gun's held illegal as a United States Consitutional Right?

John_C_87

What lesser protection is taking place when not enforcing a United States Constitutional gun Right?

John_C_87

@anarchist100
Guns provide an enormous amount of Freedom by putting people's protection in their own hands, it allows people to have a lot for Freedom in regards to where they travel, and live.

The basic United States Constitutional argument is a gun as an American United State Constitutional right in whole truth provided no Freedom at all...Period....Ever! You think, and you understand. I hope you do not take it personal as you push to describe what think and understand is to be tested as the best of all connection, united state to keep established justice plus.

By truth we may be talking about the idea of collateral damage created by attacking the United States Constitution in order to establish a connection to all women as equality between themselves, connection to the Executive office, and their alienation to a better connection to preamble guidelines such as established justice etc. The United States Constitution In the first place.

To be clear in this argument women are those who are female and over the age of 18 as in basic principle it can be said as a common defense towards the general welfare that a man is a male who is over18 years of age as well.

just_sayin

Argument Topic: Defensive uses of Guns outnumber gun crimes each year

@theinfectedmaster
According to most studies, defensive uses of guns, to protect life or property, are greater than the number of gun crimes committed each year in the US.

• “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million….”
• A survey published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” over the previous five years. This amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year and excludes all “military service, police work, or work as a security guard.”

Any serious discussion of gun control must include defensive use of guns.  Since the majority of gun crimes in the US are committed by illegally obtained firearms, any laws that take away people's guns will disproportionately affect law abiding citizens ability to protect themselves.

John_C_87

I rephrased this...

The basic United States Constitutional argument is a gun as an American United State Constitutional right by the whole truth provides no Freedom at all...Period....Ever! 

You think, and you understand. I hoped we do not take it personal as we are pushed to describe what thoughts and understanding is to be tested as a best of all connection placed in united state to kept in line to established justice plus.

John_C_87

@Debra
They, the programmers of DEBBI,  Artifical inteligence cannot weight relivance unless they can answer the questions first.

How are gun's held illegal as a United States Consitutional Right?
What is the source of fact that describes all legilsated law as a lower form of law under United State Consitutional right?

just_sayin

Argument Topic: There are more defensive uses of guns than gun crimes each year in the US.

@theinfectedmaster
According to most studies, defensive uses of guns, to protect life or property, are greater than the number of gun crimes committed each year in the US.

• “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million….”
• A survey published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” over the previous five years. This amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year and excludes all “military service, police work, or work as a security guard.”

Any serious discussion of gun control must include defensive use of guns.  Since the majority of gun crimes in the US are committed by illegally obtained firearms, any laws that take away people's guns will disproportionately affect law abiding citizens ability to protect themselves.

just_sayin

Argument Topic: There are more defensive uses of guns than gun crimes each year in the US.

@theinfectedmaster
According to most studies, defensive uses of guns, to protect life or property, are greater than the number of gun crimes committed each year in the US.

• “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million….”
• A survey published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” over the previous five years. This amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year and excludes all “military service, police work, or work as a security guard.”

Any serious discussion of gun control must include defensive use of guns.  Since the majority of gun crimes in the US are committed by illegally obtained firearms, any laws that take away people's guns will disproportionately affect law abiding citizens ability to protect themselves.