Are Americans The Most Dumbed Down Population In World History?

Dee

ROFLMAO ......that's the yanks for ya .......Just look who these clowns vote into power says it all ......


George W Bush seriously ......."Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wisconsin, October 18, 2000

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, New Hampshire, January 27, 2000

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, South Carolina, January 11, 2000

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." —Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

"For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three nonfatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." —Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, May 14, 2001

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Michigan, September 29, 2000

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., August 5, 2004

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., September 17, 2002

"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." —Washington, D.C., June 18, 2002

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe—I believe what I believe is right." —Rome, Italy, July 22, 2001

Donald Tump ??? .........

• 'I had some beautiful pictures taken in which I had a big smile on my face. I looked happy, I looked content, I looked like a very nice person, which in theory I am.'
• 'The beauty of me is that I’m very rich.'
• (On the Duchess of Cambridge) 'Who wouldn’t take Kate’s picture and make lots of money if she does the nude sunbathing thing. Come on, Kate!'
• 'I think I am actually humble. I think I’m much more humble than you would understand.'
• 'I’m intelligent. Some people would say I’m very, very, very intelligent.”
• “I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke.'
• 'Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest – and you all know it! Please don’t feel so or insecure, it’s not your fault.'
• 'Being nice to Rocket Man hasn't worked in 25 years, why would it work now? Clinton failed, Bush failed, and Obama failed. I won't fail.’ (Kim Jong-un came to power in 2011).
• 'My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars.'
• 'While Bette Midler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct.'
• (On exporting goods to China) 'Listen, you m-----f------, we're going to tax you 25 per cent!'
• (To Cher) 'I don’t wear a 'rug'— it’s mine. And I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries that didn’t work.'
• 'I think Viagra is wonderful if you need it, if you have medical issues, if you’ve had surgery. I’ve just never needed it. Frankly, I wouldn’t mind if there were an anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect. I’m not bragging. I’m just lucky. I don’t need it. I’ve always said, "If you need Viagra, you’re probably with the wrong girl."'
• (On Puerto Rico) 'This is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.'
• 'People love me. And you know what? I've been very successful. Everybody loves me.'

It wouldn't surprise me  in the least if Kim Kardashian is voted in as the first ever female president of the US , she is intellectually the equal of Bush and Trump ; Americans celebrate st-pidity it seems

jack

Nomenclature said:

Are Americans The Most Dumbed Down Population In World History?

7 Percent of Americans think chocolate milk comes from brown cows.

Hello N:

Nahhh...  Your conclusions are all cattywampus. The takeaway from thinking that 7% of the people believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows, is that 93% of the people don't..  That makes us pretty damn smart in my book..

excon

Nomenclature

@Dee

George W Bush seriously ......."Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wisconsin, October 18, 2000

Roflmao. My favourite is this one:-

Dee

@Nomenclature

It's an absolute gem , I think Trump equalled it with his 'brilliant 'observation .......

• (On Puerto Rico) 'This is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.'

Nomenclature

@jack

Nahhh...  Your conclusions are all cattywampus.

Lmfao. Are they now? How about this conclusion?

You pulled up an online thesaurus just to find a word which you think will convince other people that you're smart.

Cattywampus, or nah?

You are literally one of the dumbest people currently using the internet, so your opinion counts for precisely zero.

Nomenclature

@Dee

Read through this, Dee. It's hilarious.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/dumb-posts-from-americans

Dee

@Nomenclature

Thanks Nom , I read and saved , it's hilarious  ......what a bunch of absolute retards 

Nomenclature

@Dee

Some of those posts literally had me in tears.

Dee

@Nomenclature

Me to , I'm having a few beers and this makes them so much the better 

ZeusAres42

Nomenclature said:

About a decade ago, 20 percent of Americans still believed that the sun revolves around the earth. 

7 Percent of Americans think chocolate milk comes from brown cows.

Half of new Congressmen don’t believe in the reality of global warming.

Nearly 20 percent of Americans think Obama is a Muslim.

25 percent of Americans don’t believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution while less than 40 percent do. 

Just a few years ago, about half of Americans still suspected a connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11, a lie that was reinforced by none other than Cheney.

In 2006 more Americans were able to name two of the “seven dwarves” than two of the Supreme Court justices.

More Americans can identify the Three Stooges than the three branches of government.

Seventy Five percent of Americans believe in the paranormal.

42 percent of Americans attend church regularly.

Twenty Five percent of Americans don't know which country America gained independent from.

One third of Americans believe in ghosts.

Only four percent believe they are of below average intelligence.

11 percent of Americans believe HTML is a sexually transmitted disease.

27 percent of Americans believe a gigabyte is a South American insect.

Your logical fallacy is:

Nomenclature

Your logical fallacy is: Hasty generalization

No, I'm not making a hasty generalisation. in fact, you are a great example of how dumb the average American is.

When NEWSWEEK recently asked 1,000 U.S. citizens to take America's official citizenship test, 29 percent couldn't name the vice president. Seventy-three percent couldn't correctly say why we fought the Cold War. Forty-four percent were unable to define the Bill of Rights. And 6 percent couldn't even circle Independence Day on a calendar.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-ignorant-are-americans-66053

ZeusAres42

Nomenclature said:

Your logical fallacy is: Hasty generalization

No, I'm not making a hasty generalisation. in fact, you are a great example of how dumb the average American is.

No, I'm not making a hasty generalisation. in fact, you are a great example of how dumb the average American is.

When NEWSWEEK recently asked 1,000 U.S. citizens to take America's official citizenship test, 29 percent couldn't name the vice president. Seventy-three percent couldn't correctly say why we fought the Cold War. Forty-four percent were unable to define the Bill of Rights. And 6 percent couldn't even circle Independence Day on a calendar.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-ignorant-are-americans-66053

Your logical fallacies are:

ZeusAres42

/deleted. irrelevant on my part.

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

Your logical fallacies are Ad Hominem

No, it isn't an ad hominem to explain that you're not very intelligent (i.e. dumb). It's a factual statement intended to explain why you can't make an argument like a normal person, and instead insist on spamming my debate with silly image posts which distract from reasoned debate.

You claimed it was a "hasty generalisation" to allege that Americans are a dumbed down population. Since the debate is about a general population it is nonsensical to attack it for being a generalisation, and completely untrue to call it "hasty". 

If you don't want to have a debate about it then just leave the thread please. I'm sick of your infantile image bombing.

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

Statistics of small numbers

It is not possible (or at least completely impractical) to poll all 330 million people in the United States every time researchers want to investigate something, which is why no peer-reviewed quantitative study ever does that. Everybody from psychologists to political scientists have to work with sample sizes smaller than the entire population. If your argument basically amounts to, "Yeah, well, the next thousand people won't be as dumb", then I wouldn't count on it mate.

ZeusAres42

Nomenclature said:

@ZeusAres42

Your logical fallacies are Ad Hominem

No, it isn't an ad hominem to explain that you're not very intelligent (i.e. dumb). It's a factual statement intended to explain why you can't make an argument like a normal person, and instead insist on spamming my debate with silly image posts which distract from reasoned debate.

You claimed it was a "hasty generalisation" to allege that Americans are a dumbed down population. Since the debate is about a general population it is nonsensical to attack it for being a generalisation, and completely untrue to call it "hasty". 

If you don't want to have a debate about it then just leave the thread please. I'm sick of your infantile image bombing.

Your logical fallacies are:

No, it isn't an ad hominem to explain that you're not very intelligent (i.e. dumb). It's a factual statement intended to explain why you can't make an argument like a normal person, and instead insist on spamming my debate with silly image posts which distract from reasoned debate.

You claimed it was a "hasty generalisation" to allege that Americans are a dumbed down population. Since the debate is about a general population it is nonsensical to attack it for being a generalisation, and completely untrue to call it "hasty".

Gotcha. Not all Americans are dumb, they're just dumb generally right and that makes them the dumbest in the world right? Cool story .

anarchist100

You haven't mentioned any other countries, let me remind you that your statement was that Americans are the most dumbed down people on earth, that implies that other countries are smarter, not simply that the Americans are dumbed down.

You have yet to show us any polls of this sort from other countries, that show that they're any better than America.

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

Gotcha. Not all Americans are dumb, they're just dumb generally right

I asked if Americans are the most dumbed down population in the world, so your fallacy is:-

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

Special pleading

I guess we'll just add that to the long list of things you don't understand. No, it is not special pleading to make a general claim and then have to repeat myself when you state the obvious fact that it's a general claim. You are the one using fallacious reasoning, since you are trying to fallaciously imply that generalisations are somehow irrelevant or wrong. 

ZeusAres42

Nomenclature said:

@ZeusAres42

Statistics of small numbers

It is not possible (or at least completely impractical) to poll all 330 million people in the United States every time researchers want to investigate something, which is why no peer-reviewed quantitative study ever does that. Everybody from psychologists to political scientists have to work with sample sizes smaller than the entire population.

Firstly, thanks for an actual civil response for a change. Secondly, that is correct. Still, the sample size needs to be large enough to warrant any significant results both practically as well as statistically. Then there is the issue of how you are defining dumb. If by dumb you are talking about IQ then the mean IQ of the USA is 98 which is two numbers lower than the UK which is 100 which is two numbers lower than Western European countries which is 102.

However, 98 is hardly different from 100. Still, there are other nations with a mean far lower than 98. So, that just proves in terms of IQ Americans are hardly the least intelligent in the world. https://personalityanalysistest.com/average-iq-by-country/median-iq-by-country-guide/

However, you are drawing the conclusion that most Americans are dumb due to mostly small percentages of subgroups believing in or being ignorant about certain things. You are factually incorrect here and logically flawed. 29% of Americans being wrong about specific things does not equate to most of them being wrong about everything.

Your logical fallacy is:

And also in your case not understand this and thus draw completely erroneous conclusions.

ZeusAres42

anarchist100 said:

You haven't mentioned any other countries, let me remind you that your statement was that Americans are the most dumbed down people on earth, that implies that other countries are smarter, not simply that the Americans are dumbed down.

You have yet to show us any polls of this sort from other countries, that show that they're any better than America.

Thanks. He didn't ask; he asserted it. He is now just trying to change his story as a way to try and save his bruised ego I guess.

You haven't mentioned any other countries, let me remind you that your statement was that Americans are the most dumbed down people on earth, that implies that other countries are smarter, not simply that the Americans are dumbed down.

You have yet to show us any polls of this sort from other countries, that show that they're any better than America.

Hence, erroneous hasty generalization (AKA faulty generalization, etc).

ZeusAres42

Nomenclature said:

@ZeusAres42

Special pleading

I guess we'll just add that to the long list of things you don't understand. No, it is not special pleading to make a general claim and then have to repeat myself when you state the obvious fact that it's a general claim. You are the one using fallacious reasoning, since you are trying to fallaciously imply that generalisations are somehow irrelevant or wrong. 

NOMNOM's logical fallacy is

NOMNOM made the argument that all Americans are the dumbest in the world (it's there in the OP). He drew his conclusions based on a select few stats that surrounded different studies with different percentages as to what Americans believe in or are ignorant of.

He's basically taken a list of stats here, summed them up as one, and then concluded that All Americans are dumb because of this. His argument is so flawed on so many levels!

His fallacy is faulty/hasty generalization blatantly. He said that the Americans are the dumbest in the world based on a little bit of data with studies actually differentiating from one another then summed them up as one whole thing, and then concludes a whole country must be the dumbest in the world. When called out he then asserts he was talking generally (AKA form special pleading, backtracking, whatever you want to call it). Even if he was to speak in an actual general sense he would still be wrong.

May I remind him what he said to @Maycaesar here:

Nomenclature said:

@MayCaesar

Your backtracking is only going to tie you up in knots. It's much simpler to simply admit that what you wrote initially was nonsense than try to refine it with further nonsense. Almost every person in the world falls into this prideful trap.

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/156920#Comment_156920

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

Firstly, thanks for an actual civil response for a change. 

If you want civil responses then stop hijacking my debates with huge jpg images like a four year old child and simply type out your arguments like a normal person. 

Secondly, that is correct.

Between 90 and 95 percent of everything I write is correct.

Still, the sample size needs to be large enough to warrant any significant results both practically as well as statistically. 

Even better, one may cross-reference the results of multiple polls to build a bigger picture. There are dozens of polls which imply that the United States population is not very bright, at least four of which I have used during this very debate.

Then there is the issue of how you are defining dumb. If by dumb you are talking about IQ then the mean IQ of the USA is 98 which is two numbers lower than the UK which is 100 which is two numbers lower than Western European countries which is 102.

Which is a mean average taken across the entire population. Incredibly, after whining about samples sizes being too small, when a full census is taken you are still not happy.

Although, I will agree with you that I am not necessarily talking about IQ. 

However, 98 is hardly different from 100

I don't think you understand how either statistics or IQs work. It's a huge difference because you're using a national average. Hong Kong has the highest national average IQ in the world and it is only 10 points higher at 108. A single smart person in a room full of dumb people will drive up an average. For example, if 9 people have an IQ of 90, and then the next person has an IQ of 170, that averages out at 98.

 Still, there are other nations with a mean far lower than 98.

The United States is the richest country in the world and comes 29th on the list of average IQs. It's on a par with Mongolia. 

So, that just proves in terms of IQ Americans are hardly the least intelligent in the world.

No, it proves that the average IQ in America isn't as bad as in third world countries where the inhabitants are illiterate and can't afford schools. As I just explained, one intelligent person in a room full of 9 other dummies drives up the mean average to 98.

Really though, I'm not talking about IQ. The American problem isn't IQ. It's more a problem of lack of critical thinking skills, resultant from mass indoctrination into religion and other similarly antiquated belief systems. Americans in general are suffering from the effects of an isolationist culture which has largely separated itself from reality.

However, you are drawing the conclusion that most Americans are dumb due to mostly small percentages of subgroups believing in or being ignorant about certain things

Thanks for letting me know. 

You are factually incorrect here and logically flawed.

I can't be factually incorrect about a claim I didn't make. Try searching that site you keep spamming images from for something called the strawman fallacy.

29% of Americans being wrong about specific things does not equate to most of them being wrong about everything.

You are cherry-picking a single piece of data from a smorgasbord of poll results posted in this thread and using it to attack a claim I didn't even make. Stop being a dummy.

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

NOMNOM made the argument that all Americans the dumbest in the world (it's there in the OP).

Explain something to me please. How are you actually dumb enough to post a huge image of text explaining what a strawman fallacy is and then follow that up with a strawman fallacy? I didn't make the argument that "all Americans the dumbest in the world". Not only does that not make grammatical sense, but you can clearly see that the OP is a question, not a statement.

Go away you boring troglodyte. Stop spamming my debate with images and learn to write coherent English.

Barnardot

@Nomenclature
your right about iq but that doesn’t meen any thing any way. Where I work we knock off thousands of chickens and the smartest workers are the spicks and the Nigerians. All the slopes in the plant just cause trouble which isn’t very smart because so there iqs don’t get them any where any way

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

You haven't mentioned any other countries, let me remind you that your statement was that Americans are the most dumbed down people on earth

You're the second American I've found in the last five minutes who is unable to differentiate a question from a statement. Moreover, I don't need to mention any other countries because the question only requires a yes or a no.

that implies that other countries are smarter, not simply that the Americans are dumbed down.

You've lost me I'm afraid. It appears like you're saying I didn't eat beef tonight. It was that my family ate chicken. 

You have yet to show us any polls of this sort from other countries, that show that they're any better than America.

That is true, although why do you suppose anybody would single out Americans for polls such as this in the first place? They must have already acquired an international reputation for being dumb in order to explain it.

anarchist100

Nomenclature said:

@anarchist100

You haven't mentioned any other countries, let me remind you that your statement was that Americans are the most dumbed down people on earth

You're the second American I've found in the last five minutes who is unable to differentiate a question from a statement. Moreover, I don't need to mention any other countries because the question only requires a yes or a no.

that implies that other countries are smarter, not simply that the Americans are dumbed down.

You've lost me I'm afraid. It appears like you're saying I didn't eat beef tonight. It was that my family ate chicken. 

You have yet to show us any polls of this sort from other countries, that show that they're any better than America.

That is true, although why do you suppose anybody would single out Americans for polls such as this in the first place? They must have already acquired an international reputation for being dumb in order to explain it.

When you post a question, followed by an argument in favor of a particular answer to the question, especially when you present it as a yes or no, question, people are going to assume that you're giving your answer.

And on that matter, let me remind you of the question. It was: Are Americans the most dumbed down population in world history?

You asked if they where the Most dumb, not if they where dumb, and for them to be the Most dumb, all the other countries have to be smarter than them, and you have said nothing on the subject of other countries, therefor you haven't proven anything.

If you polls aren't evidence then why did you post polls? It seems to me like you're just bullying Americans without actually trying to have any debate on the matter.

And with that aside, it was only after the first post I made that I noticed you had said the most dumbed down population in world history, I imagine you aren't much of a historian, are you? Are they more dumbed down than the people of Cambodia under Pol Pot? Who literally murdered intellectuals and wanted to make everyone a peasant? How about Macias Nguema? He was so opposed to educated people that by the end of his rule there where only two doctors alive in the entire country.

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

When you post a question, followed by an argument in favor of a particular answer to the question

Why don't you stop squirming around like a coward and simply admit that you falsely labelled my question as a statement? This overwhelming arrogance you have where even when you are completely one hundred percent in the wrong you still go on the offensive is part of the problem.

And I didn't follow up with any argument. I linked some data in order to qualify the question as a legitimate question.

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

Are they more dumbed down than the people of Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Incidentally, are you aware that the American Air Force carpet bombed Cambodia indiscriminately, killing tens of thousands of civilians?

anarchist100

Nomenclature said:

@anarchist100

Are they more dumbed down than the people of Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Incidentally, are you aware that the American Air Force carpet bombed Cambodia indiscriminately, killing tens of thousands of civilians?

I am aware of that, and yes, it's very bad. America has done horrible things.

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

I am aware of that, and yes, it's very bad. America has done horrible things

Well, I'm glad we can agree on something. I'm sorry if we've gotten off on the wrong foot. You shouldn't consider this thread to be an attack against all Americans because I'm perfectly aware that there are some highly intelligent people in America.

As I explained earlier in another post, I don't see the problem in America as being one of low average IQ. I see it as "the effects of an isolationist culture which has largely separated itself from reality." America is like North Korea on steroids.

anarchist100

Nomenclature said:

@anarchist100

When you post a question, followed by an argument in favor of a particular answer to the question

Why don't you stop squirming around like a coward and simply admit that you falsely labelled my question as a statement? This overwhelming arrogance you have where even when you are completely one hundred percent in the wrong you still go on the offensive is part of the problem.

And I didn't follow up with any argument. I linked some data in order to qualify the question as a legitimate question.

Oh? Then what is this?

Nomenclature said:

@ZeusAres42

Special pleading

I guess we'll just add that to the long list of things you don't understand. No, it is not special pleading to make a general claim and then have to repeat myself when you state the obvious fact that it's a general claim. You are the one using fallacious reasoning, since you are trying to fallaciously imply that generalisations are somehow irrelevant or wrong. 

Is it a general claim? Or a question?

When you made this you where acting as if you hade made a claim about Americans, and you defended it by calling it a generalization, now you act as if there was never a claim in the first place. Why did you make this argument in the first place then?

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

Oh? Then what is this?

That is you trawling halfway down a page in a bizarre effort to find anything which might help you avoid having to admit that you objectively mislabelled the question posed in the OP as a statement.

I'm trying to explain to Zeus that generalisations are not a fallacy (provided you're clear and upfront about the fact that they are generalisations).

Is it a general claim? Or a question?

The claim is that Americans are the most dumbed down population in the world, and the question is whether you agree with the claim.

When you made this you where acting as if you hade made a claim about Americans

I did. Without the claim the question simply becomes: Are?

anarchist100

Nomenclature said:

@anarchist100

I am aware of that, and yes, it's very bad. America has done horrible things

Well, I'm glad we can agree on something. I'm sorry if we've gotten off on the wrong foot. You shouldn't consider this thread to be an attack against all Americans because I'm perfectly aware that there are some highly intelligent people in America.

As I explained earlier in another post, I don't see the problem in America as being one of low average IQ. I see it as "the effects of an isolationist culture which has largely separated itself from reality." America is like North Korea on steroids.

Americans do tend to be very ignorant of the world outside of America, while many populations in other parts of the world are more knowledgeable about America.

It may have a lot to do with how big the country is, consider that people tend to primarily be knowledgeable about their geographic area, Europeans know a lot about Europe, and Asians know a lot about Asia,  America is so big that it might as well be a geographic area, it has many different cultures in it.

America also tends to exercise a lot of influence on the rest of the world, they make you know about them and their culture. That's why everyone, at least a little bit, knows about what happens in America.

anarchist100

Nomenclature said:

@anarchist100

Oh? Then what is this?

That is you trawling halfway down a page in a bizarre effort to find anything which might help you avoid having to admit that you objectively mislabelled the question posed in the OP as a statement.

I'm trying to explain to Zeus that generalisations are not a fallacy (provided you're clear and upfront about the fact that they are generalisations).

Is it a general claim? Or a question?

The claim is that Americans are the most dumbed down population in the world, and the question is whether you agree with the claim.

When you made this you where acting as if you hade made a claim about Americans

I did. Without the claim the question simply becomes: Are?

I seriously doubt that this was your original intention, considering that you had many opportunities to clarify this, and only did it very recently, but I'm not going to argue with you about it, it would be pointless, neither of us can prove anything. I'll just take your word for it an forget about it. So with that behind us, do you agree with the original statement about Americans being the most dumbed down population in world history?

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

Americans do tend to be very ignorant of the world outside of America, while many populations in other parts of the world are more knowledgeable about America.

Again, I agree. See? We have some similar views when we put the petty squabbling aside.

It may have a lot to do with how big the country is, consider that people tend to primarily be knowledgeable about their geographic area, Europeans know a lot about Europe, and Asians know a lot about Asia,  America is so big that it might as well be a geographic area, it has many different cultures in it.

Yes, there's probably some truth to that. However, I think America also has its own unique culture and traditionally it's known for exporting rather than importing culture. I'm European and I know a lot more about America than I do about Europe, partly because of the language barriers which exist between myself and other European nations, but also because I've been exposed to a lot more American culture. 

America also tends to exercise a lot of influence on the rest of the world, they make you know about them and their culture. That's why everyone, at least a little bit, knows about what happens in America.

Exactly. This is what I was getting at. It's quite strange really how times have changed over my lifetime. Growing up, I remember that everybody wanted to be American, or at least live in America. It was generally regarded as the coolest place on Earth. These days it's the precise opposite.

Dee

@Nomenclature

Just a heads up Nom in case you didn't know , Anarchist is American and has the IQ of a sea sponge. This id-iot is a David Icke groupie who believes the Holocaust never happened and world leaders are actually reptiles dressed up as humans ( he's probably a societal norm in his hick state) 

Also his idea of Anarchy seems to be covering his mouth and booing at various political figures on TV ,most likely keeping his mouth half covered so as not to disturb the neigbours

Nomenclature

@Dee

Just a heads up Nom in case you didn't know , Anarchist is American and has the IQ of a sea sponge.

Yes, I can see from reading some of his posts that he has that peculiar American trait of never being able to accept when he's objectively wrong about something. 

Nomenclature

@anarchist100

I seriously doubt that this was your original intention

I don't really care to be honest. What matters is that I asked a question and you mislabelled it as a statement. It doesn't become a statement even if I have an opinion about the answer. 

anarchist100

Dee said:

@Nomenclature

Just a heads up Nom in case you didn't know , Anarchist is American and has the IQ of a sea sponge. This id-iot is a David Icke groupie who believes the Holocaust never happened and world leaders are actually reptiles dressed up as humans ( he's probably a societal norm in his hick state) 

Also his idea of Anarchy seems to be covering his mouth and booing at various political figures on TV ,most likely keeping his mouth half covered so as not to disturb the neigbours

Quit making things up swine.

You really are a detestable creature, not only do you refuse to have an intelligent debate with anyone who disagrees with you on anything more than something as minor the best way to impose your already existing ideas, but you have to make everyone miserable even when they choose to ignore your pathetic existence.

Get sterilized, your kind should not continue.

ZeusAres42

anarchist100 said:

Nomenclature said:

@anarchist100

Oh? Then what is this?

That is you trawling halfway down a page in a bizarre effort to find anything which might help you avoid having to admit that you objectively mislabelled the question posed in the OP as a statement.

I'm trying to explain to Zeus that generalisations are not a fallacy (provided you're clear and upfront about the fact that they are generalisations).

Is it a general claim? Or a question?

The claim is that Americans are the most dumbed down population in the world, and the question is whether you agree with the claim.

When you made this you where acting as if you hade made a claim about Americans

I did. Without the claim the question simply becomes: Are?

I seriously doubt that this was your original intention, considering that you had many opportunities to clarify this, and only did it very recently, but I'm not going to argue with you about it, it would be pointless, neither of us can prove anything. I'll just take your word for it an forget about it. So with that behind us, do you agree with the original statement about Americans being the most dumbed down population in world history?

It's called backtracking on what he said bruh. @anarchist100. Yeah, he asked the question (he might have edited that though). But he still made the claim that Americans are the dumbest people in the world. He drew this conclusion on a list of various mutually exclusive data sets with most of them being tiny sample sizes (he blatantly has no idea how statistics work here). And as you said he gave no comparison polls either. Nor did he also define what he meant by dumb. Nonetheless, his argument is still flawed both factually and on a fallacious level.

Actually, he did believe Americans were the dumbest people in the world before he even posted this thread as per his comments in other debate threads whereby he insults people for being American even when they're not American (LMAO). Now, if you look at the date of the link he posted it's very recently this year it was published. It's obvious he quickly googled this and used it to confirm his preconceived notions (AKA confirmation bias).

FYI, if you ever want to play Poker NOMNOM would be a great guy to play with; you would win a lot of money; this guy just loves to show all of his cards!

Dee

@anarchist100

Quit making things up swine.

But I'm not you retard , you  had a melt  down last month trying to pretend your previous beliefs were just a phase 

You really are a detestable creature

Says you a Holocaust denier .....lol 

, not only do you refuse to have an intelligent debate with anyone who disagrees with you

But intelligent debate is impossible with Murican pond life like you 

on anything more than something as minor the best way to impose your already existing ideas,

Translation : you want everyone to believe the world is run by giant lizards ......lol 

but you have to make everyone miserable even when they choose to ignore your pathetic existence.

No one is capable of making you miserable unless you choose to let them , shows how easy it is for me to make you miserable whenever  I wish 

Get sterilized, your kind should not continue.

Oh right got ya , you want a world where unemployed Neo  Nazis like you who believe in reptilian overlords should only be allowed live ? Well in that case you got your wish as Murica is full of pathetic retards like you 

MayCaesar

ZeusAres42 said:

I know that I have had too much rum when I read it as, "My roommate said her philosophy class was hard, and I am hard, too." The actual continuation was a little disappointing!

As for this topic, it stinks enough that I do not want to touch it with a 10-foot pole. Ideas like "population of country X is the most dumbed down in world history" do not deserve being entertained, and people who champion them are good candidates for members of the very population they are talking about. It does not surprise me that a person creating this thread is the same person who lacks basing reading comprehension skills. How did that saying go? "Your thoughts about others are a mirror into your soul?" Someone who thinks such thoughts about 320+ million people is... someone I would not share this cup of rum with. *sip*

ZeusAres42

@MayCaesar

I agree with you but sometimes one just needs to goof off from being serious once in a while.  Besides, this isn't a formal debate. I guess that is part of the problem though; people see "casual" and think that means anything goes.

MayCaesar

@ZeusAres42

I understand that, but somehow even laughing at ideas like this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Silly and ridiculous ideas can be fun; but this kind of ideas is just obnoxious, it is an expression of the darkest sides of human psyche, and I feel that every time I get touched by it, a small part of me dies and I become a little more cynical.

There is something corrupting about negatively judging others. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but somehow when one bestows a damning judgement on someone else, they also seem to apply that judgement to themselves: "This person possesses this horrible and unacceptable quality. Am I completely free from this quality myself though? Apparently not. Oh no..." I find that, whenever I am about to negatively judge someone, the best strategy is to take a deep breath and to think about something else. This way, when I meet truly amazing people, I can connect with them on a very deep level and not have to deal with "cleaning the pipe" of the dark thoughts that spoil the interaction.

Nomenclature

@ZeusAres42

It's called backtracking on what he said bruh

I haven't backtracked on anything. You just can't read. You have your knickers in a twist because I dared question the intellectual integrity of Americans and you're too mind-numbingly arrogant to ever criticise your own culture. 

Yeah, he asked the question (he might have edited that though)

The website forces participants to structure their debate titles as questions so your conspiracy theory doesn't even make any sense. Your contributions are thoroughly useless to this platform because ninety percent of the time you refuse to even type anything and just spam the board with images. When you do type something it's invariably a nonsensical personal attack rooted in your own false conclusions. 

In short, you're too arrogant to ever close your big mouth for five seconds and realise that you don't know anything.

Nomenclature

@MayCaesar

As for this topic, it stinks enough that I do not want to touch it with a 10-foot pole. 

And yet here you are, whining like an infant and doing a marvellous job of contradicting yourself. You don't want to engage me directly because you're a coward, so instead you just come in and snipe from a distance. It's pathetic. If you think the topic stinks then don't participate in it. Simple. Nobody is going to miss your snobbish rhetoric because it reads like it was written by a mildly autistic 17th century plantation owner. 

 

Nomenclature

@MayCaesar

Ideas like "population of country X is the most dumbed down in world history" do not deserve being entertained

Do you live in a cave, pal? How have you possibly missed that the entire world thinks Americans are unintelligent?

Nobody else seems to have a problem entertaining the question. Just you. Maybe you should pull your head out of your own sphincter.

Top 10 Reasons People Think Americans Are Stoopid

https://www.thetoptens.com/peoples/reasons-people-think-americans-are-/

Are American voters actually just stoopid? A new poll suggests the answer may be "yes"

https://www.salon.com/2017/04/26/are-american-voters-actually-this--a-new-poll-suggests-the-answer-may-be-yes/

Study finds Americans are the most stoopid people on the planet

https://ozzienews.com/chin-wag/study-concludes-americans-are-the-stupidest-people-on-the-planet/

How Dumb Is America: 10 Things People Actually Believe

https://patch.com/us/across-america/how-dumb-america-10-things-people-actually-believe

Why are Americans considered stoopid by people all over the world?

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Americans-considered--by-people-all-over-the-world?share=1

Why Polls Make Americans Look Stoopid

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/02/why-polls-make-americans-look-/35499/

Are Americans Just Stoopid?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/our-humanity-naturally/202010/are-americans-just-

anarchist100

Dee said:

@anarchist100

Quit making things up swine.

But I'm not you retard , you  had a melt  down last month trying to pretend your previous beliefs were just a phase 

This may shock and amaze you, but intelligent people change over time, and become more logical, I know that you don't seem to be into this, you'd rather just keep believing what you believe now for the rest of your life. You're missing out on a lot.

You really are a detestable creature

Says you a Holocaust denier .....lol 

That was always a baseless accusation. You are truly a waste of life, you can't just make things up about people when you can't debate them. Why would you even need to do that anyway? You where literally arguing with someone who had almost no evidence whatsoever for their claims, are you that dumb? you're just a worthless person.

, not only do you refuse to have an intelligent debate with anyone who disagrees with you

But intelligent debate is impossible with Murican pond life like you 

How would you know Deechild? You've never tried it? For that matter I don't think you've ever debated people who disagree with you in any major way, how silly you must be, all the things you did account for, you could listen to what others have to say and better your own understanding of the world, yet you choose to sacrifice truth in order to keep believing that which makes you feel comfortable.

on anything more than something as minor the best way to impose your already existing ideas,

Translation : you want everyone to believe the world is run by giant lizards ......lol 

There you go again, making stuff up, you clearly don't want to have any sort of reasonable debate.

but you have to make everyone miserable even when they choose to ignore your pathetic existence.

No one is capable of making you miserable unless you choose to let them , shows how easy it is for me to make you miserable whenever  I wish 

You're right, after this post I'll ignore you forever. So don't bother responding to this because you're not going to get another response out of me. If you end up fooling any other members with the nonsense you make up about me then I'll tell them, but unless that happens I'll just pretend you don't exist. good bye.

Get sterilized, your kind should not continue.

Oh right got ya , you want a world where unemployed Neo  Nazis like you who believe in reptilian overlords should only be allowed live ? Well in that case you got your wish as Murica is full of pathetic retards like you 

You keep making things up about me, you're not worth my time, what you make up says nothing about me, just you.

Dee

@anarchist100

This may shock and amaze you, but intelligent people change over time, and become more logical,

Intelligent people where I'm from don't believe reptiles ruled the world 

 I know that you don't seem to be into this, you'd rather just keep believing what you believe now for the rest of your life. You're missing out on a lot.

Again I'm not the one believed reptile overlords rule the world

That was always a baseless accusation.

It wasn't actually you asked me for proof the Holocaust happened 

You are truly a waste of life, you can't just make things up about people when you can't debate them. 

We both know that's not true , you like your friend fellow racist Bogend run when confronted by reasoned argument 

Why would you even need to do that anyway? You where literally arguing with someone who had almost no evidence whatsoever for their claims, are you that dumb? you're just a worthless person.

I know you had no evidence for your claims you don't believe them anymore because I educated you so it was actually you who were that dumb until I educated you .....What ? Oh you're welcome 

How would you know Deechild? You've never tried it? For that matter I don't think you've ever debated people who disagree with you in any major way, how silly you must be, all the things you did account for, you could listen to what others have to say and better your own understanding of the world, yet you choose to sacrifice truth in order to keep believing that which makes you feel comfortable.

Indeed , yet you were the one who believed in reptilian overlords and now you don't after I destroyed your worldview on such , also it's actually you who rarely expresses a view or engages on  any topic as we both know you cannot on account of your pretty obvious lack of an education 

There you go again, making stuff up, you clearly don't want to have any sort of reasonable debate.

Ahh so you didn't believe reptilian overlords ruled the world after admitting you used to believe such , interesting 


You're right, after this post I'll ignore you forever. So don't bother responding to this because you're not going to get another response out of me. If you end up fooling any other members with the nonsense you make up about me then I'll tell them, but unless that happens I'll just pretend you don't exist. good bye.

Well you just admitted you don't believe as you did on account of my influence and you just admitted I had the powers to push your buttons whenever I wish .....my work here is done 

You keep making things up about me, you're not worth my time, what you make up says nothing about me, just you.

Well you admitted you believed in reptilian overlords and that the Holocaust never happened so yet again you need to acknowledge this to yourself and growth may follow ......ps good luck with the job hunting