Should the military be defunded?

theinfectedmaster

Argument Topic: Yes it should.

Our military is excessively funded. We spend over 500 billion dollars on the military, which the second most powerful country, which is Russia spends significantly less money. They only spend 87.1 billion dollars. We should cut that money and direct it towards our healthcare.

anarchist100

We should cut that money and direct it towards our healthcare.

You're going to need it when my people invade your country (assuming you're from the USA) in a way not seen since the Mongol empire.

theinfectedmaster

@anarchist100 We don't even use a lot of that money spent on the military.

jack

theinfectedmaster said:

Should the military be defunded?

Hello the:

Yeah....  If somebody hits you in the face, do you turn the other cheek, or hit him in his face HARDER?

Maybe, someday, we'll be able to live without arming ourselves..  But, that day is NOT today.

excon

MayCaesar

theinfectedmaster said:

Our military is excessively funded. We spend over 500 billion dollars on the military, which the second most powerful country, which is Russia spends significantly less money. They only spend 87.1 billion dollars. We should cut that money and direct it towards our healthcare.

Russia has approximately 1.8t USD GDP, while the US has 23.3t. As a fraction of the GDP therefore, Russia spends ~5% of its GDP on the military, while the US spends ~2%. If one is to accept that these numbers should be related to GDP or some other metric of the overall economical wealth of the country, then your argument would suggest that the US should increase its military funding by 150%, not decrease it. I would love to hear your response to this argument.

John_C_87

@theinfectedmaster

WASHINGTON, D.C. — A new economic study released today by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform (ILR) found that the costs and compensation paid in the U.S. tort system totaled $443 billion—or 2.1% of national gross domestic product and $3,621 per household—in 2020. Despite the high price tag, only 53 cents of every dollar go to plaintiffs. The rest covers litigation costs and other expenses.   

U.S. Chamber of Commerce Study: U.S. Tort System Costs $443 Billion (instituteforlegalreform.com)

John_C_87

@MayCaesar
I would love to hear your response to this argument. 

Sorry for butting in. What is Soviet Union’s / Russia's National Debt in U. S. Federal Reserve Notes?
I estimate it at 227 billion U.S. Federal Reserve Notes compared to the American National Debt at 31 trillion in 2022

John_C_87

Would you agree then United States of America has law enforcement agencies? The agency is tasked with the burden of enforcing criminal laws only as a priority not a constitutional right. Many American Constitutional Amendments include this Section " The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." The issue as a state of the union is over the congressional imbalance of criminal legislation based on crime and influence caused by civil legislation on or against United States Constitutional Right. There cannot be a United State Constitutional Right for the people if the people do not propose a United State Constitutional Right. The bigger and  perfect the Right the better.  As fact the U.S. Armed Service is not a United States military anymore. How? It was dissolved in the 1980s by order of the congress and Civil Court. Why? Women had been allowed by search for the more perfect state of the union allowed to relieve the burden of protecting Americans from all enemies of United States Constitutional Right both foreign and domestic. In exchange for the enforcement of criminal law.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: Trusting your numbers that's a great argument.

@MayCaesar

There are certain factions including Russia and Hamas that we have to be ready for. They aren't going to stop at Ukraine and Israel.