Would male pregnancies benefit society or ruin it?

MayCaesar

My question is: why would anyone ever want to do this? Pregnancy is not a boon, it is an ordeal, and as a man I am very happy that I can have biological children without going through it. And if some outside intervention was warranted, one can always opt in for adopting a child, or having a child grown in an incubator.

It seems to be one of these things that make for cool sentiments if you blindly want absolute biological equality and do not care about anything else, but it does not seem to make any practical sense. It is like wanting to have cancer in order to be equal to those who have cancer: why would you want to add unnecessary suffering to your life? What is the point?

Factfinder

MayCaesar said:

My question is: why would anyone ever want to do this? Pregnancy is not a boon, it is an ordeal, and as a man I am very happy that I can have biological children without going through it. And if some outside intervention was warranted, one can always opt in for adopting a child, or having a child grown in an incubator.

It seems to be one of these things that make for cool sentiments if you blindly want absolute biological equality and do not care about anything else, but it does not seem to make any practical sense. It is like wanting to have cancer in order to be equal to those who have cancer: why would you want to add unnecessary suffering to your life? What is the point?

@MayCaesar

Yeah I don't see the practicality of it either. You did touch on something though; but maybe instead  of "absolute biological equality" someone is truly convinced nature made a mistake and might see this as an opportunity to experience true womanhood? Still why would an academic, degreed in the medical profession seek to attempt such a thing? Maybe to make a name for themselves, but then I would think such a decision couldn't be in the best interest of their patient. Despite the patients emotional state. At that point we start getting into Dr. Moreau territory. The weird thing about it is that there appears to be circles of thought out there seriously considering offering some kind procedure sometime in future.

Barnardot

@Factfinder Well I for 1 would not want a baby coming out of my doolie or out of my rare end for that matter. 
But lets be abjective about the hole thing here. When you look at history babies were cut out of there moms thousands of years a go and was named after Julius Caeser who didnt want to see his baby coming out of his wifes front bottom for some reason. So its quite feasible to wack a uterus in a male then cut the baby out when its ready.

And also look at nature to. The male sea horses are the ones who actually give birth.

So then if a guy wants to have a baby all the doctor needs to do is do the plumbing to the guy then tell him to go f**k him self

Factfinder

@Barnardot

LOL, good one! You had me going all the way. The sea horse angle was the perfect set up.

MayCaesar

Factfinder said:

@MayCaesar

Yeah I don't see the practicality of it either. You did touch on something though; but maybe instead  of "absolute biological equality" someone is truly convinced nature made a mistake and might see this as an opportunity to experience true womanhood? Still why would an academic, degreed in the medical profession seek to attempt such a thing? Maybe to make a name for themselves, but then I would think such a decision couldn't be in the best interest of their patient. Despite the patients emotional state. At that point we start getting into Dr. Moreau territory. The weird thing about it is that there appears to be circles of thought out there seriously considering offering some kind procedure sometime in future.

Interesting point that I have not considered. It could be similar to how one journalist voluntarily chose to go through waterboarding just to see it from the victims' perspective. Or all those mental experiments where someone in the distant future enters a virtual reality in which they are a brutal dictator, or a dolphin, or a tree.

That said, pregnancy is not just a short-term experience: it is something that takes a huge toll on one's body and causes quite a bit of inconvenience for many months. There would have to be more behind it than just idle curiosity.

As for why this line of research is pursued, I think that, like many other research venues in science, it is not as much about acquiring the actual ability to make a man pregnant, as about better understanding pregnancy mechanism. Much like the Apollo program of which actual walk of a human on the Moon was a very-very tiny part, and which spearheaded technological development on many fronts. Sometimes in science it is useful to set a goal that has very little practical utility in itself, but achieving which requires a lot of development in other areas - development that does have practical utility.

John_C_87

It would prevent Female specific amputations from being a women's United States Constitutional right we would need to call them immigration specific amputation.

TenohtlictlRodriguezLozano

If male pregnancies are allowed by law then we might as well use these subjects to lab test inbreeding between monkeys and humans to attempt in making a powerful soldier. Sort of like the soviets played with the idea.

I cant see any benefit of this other than the specialists that are taught to do these procedures. It would make a mockery out of any country which passes such laws and opens the door for democratic criticism. If law could be manipulated to this extreme and be allowed, you start to wonder what else to such a measure can you get done.


Imagine dropping off your child at school and he comes home to tell you that his best friend Riley has a mother with testicles. How screwed would that leave your kid with that idea in the back of their heqd growing up. It could potentially radicalize any child and its pretty much self explainable from there. I did hear of the first procedure being done in its testing stage but i guess its really getting out there isnt it. Guys want to make babies. Are women really that difficult to maintain?. Are they really nabbing all a guys finances in court? So whos the real psycho here? Or are these individuals a product of divorced wifes putting raid on their ex husbands drink and making babies that come out like the waterboy.

Factfinder

@MayCaesar

My late wife used to always express reservations over how science would push things to the limits just to see what they can do and collect data.

Barnardot

@Factfinder ;LOL, good one! You had me going all the way. The sea horse angle was the perfect set up.

The hole thing about birth is totally ridiculous any way. For people who think that God designed and made people then what the heck was he thinking when he worked out how to reproduce. In realty nature is not perfect and it wont be long before its common place to have babies in a test tube. Its more reliable and makes a lot more sents.