Would You Vote For A Convicted Felon?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold ;  Yes, I will vote for President Trump and only hope that the Democrat-Progressives continue on this path of fascism, Marxism, to the point that I will be justified by edict, declaration, to war against these demons and satiate myself in driving them into the ground or out of my Nation - forever. 

JulesKorngold

@RickeyHoltsclaw
Lol
You're hilarious!

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold ; No, me and 100-million MAGA Patriots loathe the existence of the demonic democrat-progressive-atheist and we are waiting for the word...you morons continue down this road of Marxist fascism...you will reap what you're sowing. 

JulesKorngold

Putin

Xi Jing Ping never has been, and never will be convicted before a court of law. SO you won't be doing that any time soon.

Joeseph

Mince it up any way you want Trump is now a convicted criminal.

just_sayin

A convicted criminal or a guy who would have been charged for stealing and sharing America's secrets over an open phone line, but was deemed to incompetent to charge?  I got to go with Trump between the 2.  Bidenflation is very real and I can't afford 4 more years of that.

jack

Argument Topic: Would You Vote For A Convicted Felon?

@JulesKorngold

Hello Julie:

I would..  Just NOT orange ones.

excon

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold @Joespeh ; @Factfinder ; @Jack ; @21CenturyIconoclast ; Atheists - Democrats - Progressives - LGBTQ - Abortionists - Marxists...these are the unwashed armpit of our sick society.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw


Yet they're not convicted felons like Trump ......

JulesKorngold

@RickeyHoltsclaw
Run, Forrest,  Run!

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold ;  If you only you understood the times and your evilness in our day...your mocking and laughter will turn to sorrow.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ;  No, they're vile atheists who are the unwashed armpit of society.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw


Still not convicted criminals like Trump.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ;  Trump's not a criminal but a victim of a corrupt government replete with corrupt and dishonest individuals that adhere to atheism, secular humanism....you demons will pay sooner or later.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Ahh I see , so the American government is corrupt and you worked 30 years in law enforcement in protection of a corrupt government.........you're a hypocrite

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ;  The American government has been corrupted "progressively" by th-ugs represented by your corrupted ideology even though you're a UK th-ug atheist.

I could write for many hours explaining the genesis of America’s death beginning in the late 19th-Century with Progressive fool John Dewey (the father of modern education); the GRU/KGB influence on America’s public schools, print and Hollywood media subsequent World War II; Progressive-Communist-Atheistic influencers in America’s Courts of Jurisprudence that vomited out such demonically rooted decisions like Engel v. Vitale (1962) removing Jesus and prayer from the American classroom and Roe v. Wade (1973) that “legitimized” the murder of babies in the womb, federally, and in the same year that the APA declassified/removed the sin of homosexuality from its DSM as a mental illness seeking to legitimize and buffer the societal shame of antisocial/aberrant/unsustainable sexual conduct; the Progressive infusion of demonically-rooted Darwinian Evolutionary Theory into America’s classrooms in 1963, one year subsequent the removal of Jesus from those classrooms via Engel v. Vitale (1962) – there has been no greater progenitor of Atheism, Socialism, Progressivism, Marxism and Secular Humanism than Darwin’s evolutionary idiocy forced upon our most innocent from elementary to graduate school. These demonic strategies have, like the frog in the pot, subtly undermined America’s Christian Heritage; this, as our Nation founded upon the precepts of Christianity, the Bible, sustainable mores, norms, ethics, values, is crumbling before our eyes and there is no turning back.

For the sake of succinctness, understand that the Progressives-Democrats-Marxists employed a strategic and subtle strategy of advocating policies and laws that ingratiated the Adamic sin-nature of humanity (Romans 5:12) and focused on sensuality, pleasuring the flesh, the penis, the vulva, the mind stayed on sensuality and titillating pleasure while enjoining those sensually based policies with laws and edicts and procedures that under girded their desires for a socialistic utopia controlled, managed, by the bourgeoisie and sustained by the labor of the proletariat; this socialistic – communistic strategy mandated the eradication of America’s middle class, the fruition of that strategy in progress as I type this.

America’s Founders were well aware of mankind’s propensity to compromise with the flesh and wallow in defilement until one self-destructs in hopelessness as does the society they represent; therefore, our Founder’s envisioned a social experiment rooted in “We the People,” a form of self-governance via a representative republic where a tyrannical King or intrusive government bureaucracy was eschewed in lieu of a Christian, morality based society whose behavior, thoughts, motives, were constrained and motivated by the indwelling Holy Spirit via the Gospel message via faith in Jesus Christ as Messiah and Jesus as King over America.

Essentially, the majority of our Founders understood that in order for the social experiment articulated within a “Constitution” to be successful, an overwhelming number of American citizens would have to be redeemed by faith in Jesus as Messiah, receive the indwelling Holy Spirit as their moral and ethical Teacher via the daily process of sanctification; otherwise, there would be insufficient numbers of police, prosecutors, judges, jails, to maintain order in a very limited form of government; this, eventually leading to anarchy and ultimately government tyranny in order to attain some form of societal sustainability. This is why early drawings of Colonial American municipalities show a Christian Church on almost every street corner…the pillar of a sustainable society, a healthy family.

In order for Government intrusion into our personal lives be minimized, personal freedoms maximized, the Holy Spirit would have to be America’s law giver and Tutor via the heart and a redeemed conscience that seeks sustainable morality.

Democrats-Progressives-Marxists in American society have successfully attacked America’s pillars of sustainability e.g. Jesus, the Holy Spirit, faith, the Church, the Biblical family, through indulging the sin-nature of human kind via deceiving our children, our fathers, our mothers, our pastors, our teachers, through ungodly tolerance for infanticide, unconscionable sexual perversion, Darwin, atheism and mass confusion, racism, hatred for self – hatred for America’s founding.

Over 60% of America’s citizenry today are secular humanists, atheists, socialists, historically and theologically ignorant, spiritually lost, headed to Hell and they don’t care. This is why America is perishing in immoral filth and addiction. This is why the Heavenly Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit have walked away from America, a Nation founded by Elohim for the purposes of the Great Commission, a Great Commission rejected by Israel and ultimately given the Gentile.

America, like Rome, like Israel, has rejected Elohim; this, a prophetic sign that Israel will soon be engaged in a horrific nuclear war with Russia-China-Islam/Iran; this, prefacing Messiah’s Millennial Reign. America, in that Day, will have been relegated to a third-world status monetarily, militarily, ethically, morally, and therefore too impotent to intercede on Israel’s behalf. MARANATHA!

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw

I just read your opening sentence it sums up perfectly how incredibly st-pid you are...,..

represented by your corrupted ideology even though you're a UK th-ug atheist.

I have no ideology , I'm not from the UK and I've never been convicted of thuggery you ridiculous troll.

You're a vicious hate filled c-nt who calls himself a christian what has you so angry is it the fact your wife is a wizened old  hag who with you never did a decent deed in her life just like her corrupt husband ( you) who got f-cked out of the police force for being on the take.

Bogan

The US electorate will vote just who is guilty in the next Presidential election which I predict Donald Trump will win in a landslide.     His prophetic words' If they can do it to me, they can do it to you", resonate with every Republican and Democrat who is aghast at how corrupt the unelected US Administration has become.      One hopes that when Trump is re elected President he will get absolute Republican majorities in the Senate and Congress as well, in which case there is going to be a reckoning with all of the corrupt DA's. judges, and US administration officials in the FBI, CIA, and the US Justice department.    Trump is becoming a martyr for the US people who see a real leader standing alone against the power and majesty of a corrupt unelected government.   

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ; You're a UK "useful idi-ot"....an atheist headed to Hell in arrogance and spiritual ignorance...nothing more.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw

You're a UK "useful idi-ot"...

You just constantly lie and make up nonsense about people I'm still not from the UK  , you hilariously brand yourself a "christian" and your just a hate filled bigot and racist ......BTW you're constantly angry is it because you married a pig and your kids hate you?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Joeseph ;  Obfuscation and insulting my wife won't nullify your spiritual ignorance and path to Hell in unbelief...no need to by angry with me...I have simply told you the truth...you're an atheistic fo-ol with a vulgar mouth, a seared conscience, and common decency...a "useful id-iot" of those who abuse and use you in your own defiled ignorance.

Joeseph

@RickeyHoltsclaw

I didn't insult your wife I described her a wizened old wanton whore of Babylon , why do your kids hate you ?

Barnardot

@JulesKorngold Well if you can get over your historia and gross exaggerations.
Any one with any more than a drop of common sents knows that Trump is not going to jail. So that is not going to happen.
And these same people know that this is just typical which hunt tactics which all ways goes on. Just like Clinton.
When you analize the hole thing in the end when people get over there goolish curiosity with what goes on in peoples private lives life will go on and Trump will easily win the election and people couldnt give a rats if there was jizz on some chicks dress or some one laid a hore.

Barnardot

@Joeseph ;Mince it up any way you want Trump is now a convicted criminal.

So what any way? You can talk. I dont know how many convictions you have but your a known persistent criminal any way. Okay so Trump paid hush money to fool the people and may be he did it a couple of other times. But Im sure that if we add up all the times when you tried to con the pubic and tell massive liers on this site and got convicted for them then Im sure that you would get 100 years in the electric chair in side a gas chamber while getting 100 lethal injections.

Joeseph

@Barnardot

Barmy is still mad he bought a pair of Pakistani made Nikes ......stop sulking buy Chinese buddy

RickeyHoltsclaw

God Bless Donald Trump and his beautiful family....

Barnardot

@Joeseph ;stop sulking buy Chinese buddy

For your info I brought some last week. I tried getting my wife to use chop sticks but she poked her self up the nose and all she could smell for a hole week was sech wan sauce. I tell you. Those slopes think of every way to infiltrate our society.

21CenturyIconoclast

RICKEY'S QUOTE OF NOT BEING VERY "CHRISTIAN LIKE" AS A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN AS USUAL:  "@Joeseph ;  Obfuscation and insulting my wife won't nullify your spiritual ignorance and path to Hell in unbelief" 
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182055/#Comment_182055


What the majority of the membership doesn't see in Rickey's embarrassing behalf, is shown in the Religion Forum where ATHEISTS OWN HIM AND HIS CHRISTIANITY where he is no way a TRUE Christian because he has to RUN AWAY from his primitive Bronze and Iron Age Bible as explicitly shown below:

RICKEYHOLTSCLAW'S ...."BIBLE MORALITY 101".... WHERE HE HAS TO ACCEPT AND FOLLOW HIS JESUS' WORDS AS GOD AS SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING LIST!

"But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

1.  Rickey biblically accepts that Lot’s two daughters had ungodly incestuous sex with their father, and biblically this is okay with Jesus as god!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181225/#Comment_181225

2. Rickey through his bible accepts that if anyone tries to make him worship another god, then biblically he is to murder that person!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181425/#Comment_181425

3. Rickey thought his bible that he accepts that if his daughter is not a virgin upon her wedding night, then biblically he is to murder her along with others helping him!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181621/#Comment_181621  

4. Rickey biblically accepts that if his children do not follow his rules, then biblically he is to BEAT THEM WITH A ROD that leaves bruises!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181685/#Comment_181685

5. Ricky biblically accepts that if there are hard times, or for whatever reason, then biblically he could sell his daughter into slavery, praise Jesus!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181705/#Comment_181705

6. Rickey biblically accepts that his god Jesus biblically is an outright BRUTAL ABORTIONIST, and therefore he can’t attend Anti-Abortion Rallies because he would be a hypocrite!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181919/#Comment_181919

7. Rickey biblically accepts that his god's words say that his biblically 2nd class wife cannot speak in church, and is to just "STFU" when going to church!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181954/#Comment_181954

8. Rickey has to biblically accept that he has to HATE his family members, and his children, to be a disciple of Jesus, praise!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181975/#Comment_181975

9. Rickey through his bible accepts that if a Christian owns a slave, THEN JESUS SAYS they can BEAT THEM MERCILESSLY, praise Jesus!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181979/#Comment_181979

10. Rickey biblically accepts that if he sees a christian working on the Sabbath, then his bible says to murder them!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181981/#Comment_181981

11. Rickey biblically accepts that if your children curse him or their mother, then said child is to be put to death, praise Jesus!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181982/#Comment_181982

12. Rickey biblically accepts that his Jesus as god screwed up when creating mankind through INCESTUAL SEXUAL RELATIONS through family members!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/181984/#Comment_181984

13. Rickey biblically without question, accepts that his second class wife's existence is to be ruled over by him because he is the superior man, praise Jesus!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182059/#Comment_182059

14. Rickey biblically accepts that if his wife helps him in a fight with another man, he is to cut off her hand for helping him, praise Jesus' disparaging words towards women!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182060/#Comment_182060

15. Rickey and his bible accepts that when his wife becomes a pain in the butt, Jesus' inspired words tell him to do the following, praise Jesus' words against women again!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182061/#Comment_182061

16.  Rickey has to biblically accept that his god Jesus DEMANDED his Jewish creation "EAT THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS AND NEIGHBORS!" Ewwwwwwww, bad Jesus!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182078/#Comment_182078

17. Rickey has to biblically accept that his Jesus as god said to him that he is to sell ALL of his possessions and give to the poor and needy, of which he has not done! 

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182079/#Comment_182079

18. Rickey through his bible accepts again, that his god Jesus says to "murder homosexuals" and where he cannot say Jesus is wrong in this respect!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182080/#Comment_182080

19. Rickey has to biblically accept the fact of how a Christian man is to seek out a 2nd class biblical woman for his wife, praise Jesus' examples!  

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182089/#Comment_182089

20. Rickey biblically accepts that his 2nd class wife is a loser and knows nothing and is the "weaker vessel" of their marriage, so says Jesus' inspired words as god!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182090/#Comment_182090

21. Rickey once again has to biblically accept that if he truly believes, he can pick up a "Rattle Snake," drink Drano, and heal a cancer patient, so saith Jesus as god!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182091/#Comment_182091

22. Rickey biblically accepts that his Jesus as god was into ungodly PEDOPHILIA! How sickening can Jesus get???!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182110/#Comment_182110

23.  Rickey biblically accepts that his Jesus assisted in the raping of innocent women!  Jesus is ever loving and forgiving? NOT!!!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182111/#Comment_182111

24. Rickey biblically accepts this time, in that his Jesus has a rape law that makes the woman that was raped to marry her rapist and have his baby!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182112/#Comment_182112

25. Rickey has to biblically accept again that his primitive Bronze and Iron Age faith is Christianity is based upon FEAR!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182199/#Comment_182199

26. Rickey outright biblically accepts that his primitive faith of Christianity preys upon innocent children that can be scared to death of their faith!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182200/#Comment_182200

27. Rickey unfortunately has to accept that his JESUS AS GOD MURDERED INNOCENT INFANTS AND SUCKLING BABIES, where how can he be considered ever loving and forgiving?!  

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/182201/#Comment_182201

RICKEYHOLTSCLAW IS THE BIGGEST PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN HYPOCRITE IF HE DOES NOT ACCEPT OR FOLLOW JESUS' DIRECT WORDS IN THIS POST, PERIOD!

RickeyHoltsclaw

Trump is not a "felon" as he's not been sentenced.

jack

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Trump is not a "felon" as he's not been sentenced.

Hello Rickey:

The word CONVICTED, as in past tense, as in it already happened, as in he's a TWICE IMPEACHED CRIMINAL, CONVICTED of 34 FELONIES.

For a cop who spent 29 years enforcing the law, you sure don't know much about it.

excon

RickeyHoltsclaw

@jack ;

Both impeachments were nullified absent evidence, the "felony" charge was a misdemeanor, not much more than a parking ticket, which had run-out of legality due the statute of limitations but the weaponized DOJ tried something NOVEL and attached another allegation with the misdemeanor to enhance same to a "felony"...this has NEVER been done before...NOVEL LAWFARE....only because they fear Trump and MAGA because they're gutless baby murdering cowards....I was employed for 31-years, not 29...can't you even count, you filthy atheist. Trump is NOT a Felon lest he is sentenced as one. God Bless President Trump and may every atheist, democrat, progressive, find the path to Hell unimpeded...

 

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: Wrong Again

@RickeyHoltsclaw said:  Trump is NOT a Felon lest he is sentenced as one.

Reality:  A person becomes a felon by being convicted of a crime classified as a felony.  Trump is already a felon.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold ; A jury verdict is not a sentence. It is the court, the judge, who is relevant at the sentencing phase of a trial and the defendant is not labeled by their criminal charge until subsequent the sentencing. A judge can easily reduce the conviction to a misdemeanor, a civil matter that initiated this "trumped" up charge to a felony. Trump is not a felon nor has he ever been and he wont' truly be a felon subsequent sentencing as the entire trial was a political farce and will certainly be overturned on appeal. 

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: Wrong Again

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@JulesKorngold ; A jury verdict is not a sentence. It is the court, the judge, who is relevant at the sentencing phase of a trial and the defendant is not labeled by their criminal charge until subsequent the sentencing. A judge can easily reduce the conviction to a misdemeanor, a civil matter that initiated this "trumped" up charge to a felony. Trump is not a felon nor has he ever been and he wont' truly be a felon subsequent sentencing as the entire trial was a political farce and will certainly be overturned on appeal. 

Stop your nonsense.  Trump is a convicted felon.  Sentencing is irrelevant.

Bogan

It is interesting how the far left contributors on this site keep submitting topics about Donald Trump.   The reason is, of course, to keep attention on Trump and to keep attention away from Biden, his entire corrupt crime family, his obvious senility, the corruption of the US legal system, and the total failure of Biden's policies.   Not that he rally has any, anyway.   He is just a sock puppet for the corrupt and power mad Democratic party.  

JulesKorngold

@Bogan
The MAGA nuts on this site should consider suicide when Trump loses in November.

just_sayin

@JulesKorngold
If Trump wins, as the polls suggest, how do you think leftists will handle it?  

Factfinder

just_sayin said:

@JulesKorngold
If Trump wins, as the polls suggest, how do you think leftists will handle it?  

As a physical conservative I would think we dodged a proverbial bullet; though let's hope there's no bomb on the the horizon, eh?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold ; I will vote for President Trump and I'll go to war with him should the edict be legislated that our Nation is once again at war with the vile democrats-progressives. Trump is a great President...Biden and the Marxist Progressives, are political fools.

Bogan

@JulesKorngold ;      The MAGA nuts on this site should consider suicide when Trump loses in November.

I doubt that will happen because the Dems can not rig the postal votes like they did during COVID.      Of course, they can still use the fact that voter ID is not needed in the USA to rig the ballot, but I think that the number of people voting for President Trump this time is just going to be too overwhelming to repeat that trick.   Since his latest conviction, his campaign finances have risen an incredible $200 million, and most of those donations are in the $30-$70 dollar range, indicating that ordinary people like you and me are voting for Trump.      The Dems biggest mistake was to abandon the working and lower middle classes in order to pander to the radical left because they thought that the radical left could capture the votes of the ever surging numbers of "poor persecuted minorities."      But minorities are suffering under "Bidenomics" just like everyone else.    And minorities like African blacks, Muslims, and Hispanics are utterly repulsed by the transgender values of the loony left.     If it was possible to prevent yourself, Delilah, Jack, and university educated females in the 20-37 age group from voting, Trump may get the first unanimous presidential vote in history.   

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@JulesKorngold ; No, me and 100-million MAGA Patriots loathe the existence of the demonic democrat-progressive-atheist and we are waiting for the word...you morons continue down this road of Marxist fascism...you will reap what you're sowing. 

How many are inbred Neanderthals' believing in childish elf fairytale gods like you? Figure a day or two will be all it takes to rid you out of OUR country. I am not Marxist or your brand, fascist, I'm American and sick of cultist morons like you thinking you speak for America. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ;  You're a servant of the Devil...you have no business in America....you support those who advocate for the murder of babies and LGBTQ perversion and open borders and Marxism and you're a metastasizing malignancy in our Nation. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

I'm voting for the Trumpster....God Bless Donald Trump and his beautiful family and may every democrat, liberal, progressive, atheist, secular humanist, find the path to Hell unimpeded.

Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

That many, inbreded eh?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Democrats-Progressives-Atheists are the inbred of the Devil. You represent a horrible people.

RexTheDog

@JulesKorngold at the end of the day he's the only revenge option, people need either revenge or progress after covid anything less is unacceptable to most, so who else is offering either revenge or progress? nobody, the smartest people in America and enjoying themselves on podcasts to sickened by it all to take part in over throwing a corruption. the overthrow of a corruption is a perfectly legal and reasonable idea, Corruption is bad it must be stopped, unfortunately while trying to stop it we have been left with a vote for the corrupt or the less corrupt Trump wild card, we are in it now and the only way out is to seize that revenge or continue to take the gut punches, those dealing the blows are weakling leaders and elites resorting to depopulation, culling and enhanced control methods for their human farm. we need a way out, trump is the beat up car we are going have to use to get there but its us vs them now and its truing in to a knife fight, makes you yearn for the home alone era of culture again   

MayCaesar

@RexTheDog

Could you explain in what way electing Trump is going to get us there? I get getting a beat-up car and driving it until I have saved enough money for a good car, money-saving constituting the progress - but what progress is there to be had with Trump in charge?

The Republican Party had some decent candidates this time around. Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSantis had great track records and solid platforms, and even Nikky Haley made quite a bit of sense. Mike Pence had McCain's vibe... There was no shortage of candidates far better than Trump, yet people still supported the guy - despite him not even participating in the debates.

I do not buy it. Trump is not the "lesser evil". Trump is someone the Republicans at large eagerly endorsed. It is not a protest vote, but a positive vote: "We want this guy to be the president". Which is strange, given that most of Trump's political positions are not even aligned with what the Republican Party was about a decade ago.

Factfinder

RexTheDog said:

@JulesKorngold at the end of the day he's the only revenge option, people need either revenge or progress after covid anything less is unacceptable to most, so who else is offering either revenge or progress? nobody, the smartest people in America and enjoying themselves on podcasts to sickened by it all to take part in over throwing a corruption. the overthrow of a corruption is a perfectly legal and reasonable idea, Corruption is bad it must be stopped, unfortunately while trying to stop it we have been left with a vote for the corrupt or the less corrupt Trump wild card, we are in it now and the only way out is to seize that revenge or continue to take the gut punches, those dealing the blows are weakling leaders and elites resorting to depopulation, culling and enhanced control methods for their human farm. we need a way out, trump is the beat up car we are going have to use to get there but its us vs them now and its truing in to a knife fight, makes you yearn for the home alone era of culture again   

"Revenge" is not a good reason to vote in my mind. Though at this stage you're right. In order to stop the hemorrhaging the far left has caused under Biden we need to use Trump as a plug.

Factfinder

@MayCaesar

The Republican Party had some decent candidates this time around. Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSantis had great track records and solid platforms, and even Nikky Haley made quite a bit of sense. Mike Pence had McCain's vibe... There was no shortage of candidates far better than Trump, yet people still supported the guy - despite him not even participating in the debates.

Spot on. Which causes me to shake my head. Why would otherwise sane rational people so early in the election process uniformly agree with the notion they can't beat Biden without Trump?