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Thoughts on Russell Brand?

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Thoughts on Russell Brand? While I don't like him and think he is an !diot, I still must make sure to keep any negative biases out of being influenced by this. That being said, there are some things I have noticed a few things that might be significant. Firstly, he is on YouTube and portrays himself a lot differently from the way he used to be. On some of the YouTube videos I have seen recently, it looks like he is trying to portray himself as some moral, reasonable, and upstanding citizen all for the people. Now, I could be wrong but this could be more of trying to convince the public that he is an upstanding and good person rather than just convey straightforward messages. 

Then there is the fact that while some allegations are indeed fabricated lies these are statistically rare. I am sorry to say it but the more people that come forward as victims the more likely that at least one or more of those allegations are true. Generally, people just don't make things up like that. In addition to that, the way he behaved in past years which some might not remember like when he was on Mock the Week, in shows with Jimmy Saville, making jokes about the allegations, and just inappropriate allegations in general also seems significant.  He even made a prank with him and Jonathan Ross that involved pretending that one of the actors from the sitcom Faulty Towers family members had been raped! Seriously? These two thought this was a comedy; Rape? 

Again, I could just be letting my own biases get the better of me. However, one thing is for sure, and that is the evidence and crucial investigative examination should reveal all! 






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  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6186 Pts   -  
    Richard Feynman once suggested the following mental experiment. Chinese citizens are not allowed to see the face of the Emperor. How does one estimate the length of the Emperor's nose? One can simply poll a large number of citizens, asking them, "What do you think is the length of the Emperor's nose?" By averaging the results we should get a reasonable estimate of the length of the Emperor's nose...
    Except, since no citizen has any data allowing them to say virtually anything about the length of the Emperor's nose, all the collected data is completely useless, and the estimate makes no sense.

    Similarly, I do not think that the number of allegations against an individual says anything about how actually guilty he is. Hate campaigns are a thing, and very often it only takes one or two voices for thousands other voices to join in, not because they have all been victimized by the target of the campaign, but because, for one reason or another, they want the target removed or seriously hurt - or it even may be as simple as wanting to extort some money from him.

    "Innocent until proven guilty" is not just some legal technicality, but an essential philosophical principle when it comes to justice in general. Much like the burden of proof, this principle assures that simply making a negative claim about someone does not have any direct consequences, and some concrete evidence or argumentation is required for the accusation to be considered seriously. This principle does not suddenly become irrelevant because a large enough number of people accused someone of something. Even if 99.999% of the world's population says that someone has raped someone, without concrete evidence these are just empty words. Now, individuals are free to err on the side of safety if they want and assume that the person is guilty even without due evidence - but I refuse to err on he side of safety if it means giving bullies a free reign over society. I do not want to live in a society where a few people can group up and accuse someone of something and destroy their life, regardless of whether they are guilty or not, and I will not contribute to emergence of such a society.
  • BarnardotBarnardot 555 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 Well this guy has admitted that he is a sex addict and plugs his doolie into just about any thing that walks. So its no surprise really that his nob has got him in to trouble and the only reason that he made those lar de dar youtube videos trying to look descent is that he knew all these allegations were brewing any way. Katy Perry had to put up with all his womanizing so in the end she left him in the end. Im afraid this has really cooked his goose and hes finished.
  • DeeDee 5395 Pts   -  
    I don't like the guy and find him boring and not in the least funny or entertaining , I don't get his mass appeal at all.

    Having said that I do detest this attitude of our modern PC  society and all that entails. Once one or two people launch an attack the floodgates open and the mob comes howling for blood many is the reputation has been ruined by these campaigns.

    If the evidence is there it will come out everything else is just unfounded gossip at the moment.

    I remember Ricky Gervais saying at the golden globes " No Harvey Weinstein at this years awards , lots of you ladies were good friends of his this time last year and never said a word about rape" , these celebs are weird they will out certain people but keep tight-lipped regards others.
  • RexTheDog01RexTheDog01 22 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42 tell yah what I've noticed, you are very right to be suspicious of his video personality, you might want to have a look a some of his live videos, look out for times he speaks to the behind the scenes guys and the way he speaks to them, its very revealing, it shows his anger up in the way he belittles them. whats stranger is that the clips of him interacting are kept in the final youtube releases, its as if the behind the scenes guys are leaving it in on purpose to reval it as all his other videos are heavily cliped, even frequent between frame clips in rapid succession, every time his voice pitch changes it clips   
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6186 Pts   -  
    I just realized that I actually never said what I think about Russell Brand in general. As a comedian and a public figure, I think he is fun - but he is a weak intellectual. His ideas are very banal and he delves in a lot of new age stuff, which is a common rabbit hole for wellness-oriented people to fall into. He is much like your average hippie from the 60-s, set on a crusade against politicians and corporations and advocating for simple, humble and natural life.

    I honestly think that new age spirituality is doing a LOT of damage to the world. People get stuck in these ancient rituals and adopt absolutist disfunctional positions such as "material attachments are bad". There is a reason people have those attachments, and those reasons are not evil corporations messing with their minds. No, you do not need a private jet to be happy; yes, all other things being equal, having a private jet is a nice addition to your life. Meditate away all you want: good for you. Does not mean that you do not / should not have other sources of joy in your life. You can be extremely wealthy AND meditate regularly. Build an expensive meditation temple somewhere if that is what drives you.

    I am typing this looking at an expensive 50 inch TV screen: I use it as a monitor. Could I just use a laptop screen instead? Sure. But it is definitely nicer to have a large screen. This does not make me a one-dimensional materialistic greedy pig. I like having nice things, but that is not the only thing I like: I also like doing morning runs in a park for which I do not need any money. Convincing yourself that you do not need anything except your mind to be happy - now that makes you one-dimensional.

    And it is, of course, always easy for people like Russell Brand, a very rich individual, to say that money does not matter. Especially if in the process you can make a lot of money off Youtube ads, book sales and public speeches. ;)
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