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Suppose parties A and B are at war and agree on a ceasefire. If A and B both could trust each other with respecting the agreement, then they could move on and stop worrying about reignition of the conflict. However, even if B completely trusts A to respect the agreement, but A does not trust B, then A will be encouraged to act in a way that impairs B's ability to reignite the conflict, and B will have to react to that... And as such the agreement becomes virtually useless as both parties are preparing for war.
The US and Canada do not have to be ready for a potential war with each other: the US government understands that the Canadian government has no reason to initiate hostilities, and the Canadian government understands the same about the US government. As such, they can cooperate and build something together, without fearing being backstabbed. The peace here is real and lasting, and the possibility of war does not have to be considered by the actors when choosing how to act.
Not the case with Israel and Palestine. Ceasefire or not, both actors have to behave as if the war could break out any moment. Cooperation, peace, et cetera here is only possible if one of the sides assures complete dominance and beats the other side into submission. But that would also lead to a bit of a contradiction, for cooperation at a gunpoint might as well be enslavement.
The reality is, if A has a hostile intent towards B, there might not be a scenario in which both A and B get what they want. Cooperation is only possible when A and B find a common ground and shared goals and focus on achieving them, setting aside their disagreements. But when the disagreements are the essence of their interaction, cooperation is unfeasible.
It is like an argument between a husband and a wife. If both the husband and the wife are willing to work together towards a resolution, then the resolution can be found, a compromise that works for both parties. However, if the husband (or the wife) is set on "winning" the argument and does not want to seek the common ground until the partner concedes theirs, then there is no good outcome to this situation - and even if the husband (or the wife) does "win" the argument and beats the partner into submission, the resentment will hold, and the consequences of this argument remaining unresolved will snowball into a catastrophe and a breakup.
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Our government in Republic of Ireland proposed the the solution in 1960 but will they listen.
Situation in Gaza and Israel - What is Ireland’s position?
Ireland wants to see a permanent and sustainable ceasefire, the lifting of the blockade on Gaza which is at the root cause of this devastating conflict and ultimately the establishment of a two-state solution which is based on the borders of 1967.
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And Israel broke it before that and Hamas broke it before that then Israel broke it before that then Hamas broke it before that then.......
How far do you want to go back just to find out who started it. They have both hated each others guts with such vehemence from the day dot. They are both to bleme for having such bitter hatred against each other.
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You support the IRA right?
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ARGUMENT TOPIC : JUST A DROP IN THE OCEAN OF BRITISH TERROR ATTACKS AGAINST THE IRISH
I CAN GIVE THE COMPLETE LIST FOR IRELAND ALONE,AND WE CAN THEN INTRODUCE THE LENGHTY LIST FOR OTHERS COUNTRIES WHO HAVE SUFFERED FROM BRITISH STATE TERRORISM
Northern Ireland
Northern Ireland
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@Dee
Stop the WhatAboutism. The IRA is a terrorist organization.
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What do you mean what about England?
THE IRA ARE THE IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY ...THEY ARE FREEDOM FIGHTERS
***Stop the WhatAboutism. The IRA is a terrorist organization.***
Stop the WhatAboutism. The British government engages in state terrorism.
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Says Bogan the bigot and racist LOL
Everyone you disagree with you deem a troll because you cannot debate
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Then Nom comes along and all of a sudden you are for all of this. Bruh, you really need to make your mind up.
rather amusing how you called me a raging hyporcrite a month or so ago. You can almost taste the irony.
Can you really blame someone thinking "radicolization?" Maybe you are just trolling but I hope it's not the latter as that means there might actually be some help for you. Perhaps you do have a moral compass, have a Consciounce.
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ARGUMENT TOPIC: Z BOUGHT HIMSELF A JUMBO BOOK OF FALLACIES TYPICALLY USED BY PEOPLE LIKE HIMSELF ( DREADFUL DEBATERS).Z HAS BEEN GUILTY OF RESORTING TO USING EVERY FALKACY IN HIS HEFTY TOME.....
HIS LATEST ONE BEING ......
ARGUMENTUM AD BACULUM : If you don't join our demonstration against the expansion of the park, we will evict you from your apartment; So, you should join our demonstration against the expansion of the park.
*** ofc, kinda figures. However that being said idk with you. Several months or a about a year or so ago you were accusing @anarchist100 on here for being anti-Jewish.***
It's no surprise you're a fan of fellow Jew and Irish hater A who 2 months ago poured out his vile opinion of the Irish , you no doubt find his views admirable.
The guy openly stated several times that the Holocaust never happened, I made an educated guess that this probably meant he was most likely anti Jewish.
***Before that you were having a dig at @CYDharter for being racist against blacks.***
Yes yet again he sort of gave the game away with his vile bigoted rants.
*** You also thought conspiracy theories against 9/11 were ludicrous. You undderstood that climate change is a real thing. And much more. ***
And?
**Then Nom comes along and all of a sudden you are for all of this. Bruh, you really need to make your mind up.
All for what exactly?
I still believe the Holocaust actually happened , I still belive that blacks are in ever way entitled to be treated exactly the way every other citizen is.
So what's your actual.point?
***rather amusing how you called me a raging hyporcrite a month or so ago. You can almost taste the irony. ***
I called you what you are and I told you why as usual your response was to laugh into personal attacks like above that you cannot back up.
***Can you really blame someone thinking "radicolization?"***
The only thing I can blame " someone" for is a total inability to comprehend what an opponent actually says so as to push their own attempt at character assassination.
*** Maybe you are just trolling but I hope it's not the latter as that means there might actually be some help for you***
The only one trolling is you as every point you make is easily countered and your favoured respone is your usual smear campaigns, do you ever actually debate?
***. Perhaps you do have a moral compass,***
You can almost taste the irony this is hilarious Z talks about a " moral compass," yet he praised the FDA for being a model of honesty, integrity and for following best practice , this being the same totally corrupt organisation that allowed and escalated the opioid crisis in the USA.
What a raging hypocrite you are, watch now as Z foes his usual and remains mute.on this
*** have a Consciounce. ***
Says a guy who refused to condemn the FDA and also asks others to have a conscience while he refuses to condemn the British goverment for their savagery in Nothern Ireland ...."have a conscience " indeed
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Endlessly submitting sneery one liners is heckling, not debating. Try and grow a brain.
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Did people call for a ceasefire after 9/11?
No.
So why are people calling for a ceasefire now?
It's a general rule to "not negotiate with terrorists." Hamas is a terrorist organization, Israel shouldn't and will never negotiate with them. That only validates them as a legitimate political entity.
I never saw people talking about US negotiations with al-Qaeda after 9/11. But when it comes to Israel, everyone starts screaming about "proportional response," "humanitarian pause," or military ceasefire.
I think its time people grew up and began to accept responsibilities for their actions.
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Argument Topic: Interesting I didn't know Dee ever believed in climate change.
Really? You knew perfectly well, l I spent several frustrating posts debating with you on the issue and you assume because I asked you several questions regarding cycle lanes and the cost to the puplic and how utterly ridiculous and ineffective thay are ( mostly) as a solution to the crisis.
You instantly deem anyone who disgrees with with your copy and pasted links of being a climate change denier.
It's remarkable also you pretend you didn't actually suggest that working class families who couldn't afford electric cars should walk or cycle to work as it would be good for their health
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You don't debate you rant. Also I never engage with you as you've the intellectual level of a sea sponge
Try and grow a brain.
If I succeed in growing one I will send on to you as you're badly in need.
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"I disagree, with Tlaib, but I feel as a liberal I have to at least hear her as a woman of color's point of view."
This is racist/sexist thinking. You should be able to hear/listen to anyone, and their color/sex should have no impact on why your listening to them or the value of their input.
Replace with white man and liberals would be outraged.
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As a "liberal", you have to hear out every "woman of color" on this issue? What about men of non-color (or whatever the opposite of "of color" here is)? Their opinion is inherently less interesting?
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Since when is tossing sneery one liners "debating?"
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Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib quote “I grieve the Palestinian and Israeli lives lost yesterday, today, and every day. I am determined as ever to fight for a just future where everyone can live in peace, without fear and with true freedom, equal rights, and human dignity,” she said in part, adding, “The path to that future must include lifting the blockade, ending the occupation, and dismantling the apartheid system that creates the suffocating, dehumanizing conditions that can lead to resistance. The failure to recognize the violent reality of living under siege, occupation, and apartheid makes no one safer.”
So, what is Rashid Tlaib’s solution, Dreamer? Does she want Israel/Palestine separated into Jewish and Muslim areas? No. What she wants is what every “good” Muslim wants, and that is the total extermination of Israel. “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!”, they shout.
I find it incredible that a well meaning person such as yourself can ignore the fact that the Muslim opposition to Israel is entirely religious. You are advocating for religious extremism. The whole problem could be solved if the surrounding Arab nations would accept all Palestinians as their own citizens. But they won’t do that for many reasons. The primary one is because they want this endless confrontation with Israel to continue.
There are three reasons for that primary reason. The first is, that the evil Mullahs and Imams will never accept that the Jews will return to a land conquered by Islam and replace Islam as the defining culture. The second is, that Israel is an unwelcome example of what the entire Arab world could be if their people were as smart as the Jews. The third is, that just as in Orwell’s book “1984”, Arab despots need somebody for their people to hate in order to make them ignore the widespread corruption and incompetency of their despotic administrations. And you support this insanity? Ama-a-a-a-zing.
Arab nations will not accept their Palestinian “brothers” because too many of them are brainwashed fundamentalists who have caused serious trouble in every Arab nation that gave them succor. Just as they are causing trouble in every western nation that was stu-pid enough to allow them to enter as “refugees.” If Gaza is such a bad place, why is it that Australia now has the problem of repatriating 39 “Australian” Palestinians who left peaceful Australia to go back and live in Gaza? Denmark noted that most of the “Palestinian” refugees granted asylum in Denmark “celebrated” by immediately returning to Gaza to see their families.
I think that your opposition to Israel is simply you trying to display your class affiliations. The social progressive (actually, “regressive”) left has declared that opposition to Israel is another defining characteristic of the social progressive brahmin caste, a class you aspire to be considered a part of. And you have a compulsive psychological need to conform to your chosen class’s expectations. Your advocacy for “Palestinians” is just a fashion statement.
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***Since when is tossing sneery one liners "debating?" ***
It's not, so can you stop doing it?
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So says the master of sicko personal insult one liners. Ive never seen so many one liners that could easily fit in to a book bigger than war and piece.
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And those real men are smart, brave, and they know what they are doing. Democracy strikes back.
Sure thing buddy your definition of "real men" seems to mean scum bags who beat up women and children .... thankfully my country like many more holds weekly support rallies for the the brave citizens of Palestine
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Try writing an entire 350 word article starting with a clearly stated premise that you are prepared to defend with a reasoned argument. Writing curt replies dealing entirely in implications is hardly going to impress anybody into thinking you have an opinion worth reading. Neither is, just continually asking loaded Dorothy Dixer questions. You may think that it makes you look authoritative, but it just makes you look like an ignorant person winging it to vainly defend a position he passionately holds, but has little knowledge of.
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Try writing an entire 350 word article starting with a clearly stated premise that you are prepared to defend with a reasoned argument. Writing curt replies dealing entirely in implications is hardly going to impress anybody into thinking you have an opinion worth reading. Neither is, just continually asking loaded Dorothy Dixer questions. You may think that it makes you look authoritative, but it just makes you look like an ignorant person winging it to vainly defend a position he passionately holds, but has little knowledge of.
Try writing an entire 350 word article starting with a clearly stated premise that you are prepared to defend with a reasoned argument. Writing curt replies dealing entirely in implications is hardly going to impress anybody into thinking you have an opinion worth reading. Neither is, just continually asking loaded Dorothy Dixer questions. You may think that it makes you look authoritative, but it just makes you look like an ignorant person winging it to vainly defend a position he passionately holds, but has little knowledge of.
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