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Why Can't 1.8 Billion Muslims Destroy Israel?

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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -   edited May 7
    Islam is representative of Satan in Time and the spiritual war between Satan and Elohim that was initiated before Time was created. Islam is a product of adultery between Abraham and Hagar while the child of promise is Isaac through Sarah, not Ishmael through Hagar; therefore, the struggle between Israel (Jacob, the son of Isaac) and Ishmael's descendants find its genesis in unfaithfulness and strife i.e., sin. The entirety of Scripture details this war between Satan and Elohim and expounds upon why the Messiah appeared in Time; specifically, to destroy the works of Satan through the Gospel (1 John 3:8b), a Gospel ordained "before Time began" (2 Timothy 1:8-10). 

    Israel is the eschatological Land of promise through which Elohim will sum-up all things through Messiah, the Millennial Kingdom, the judgement of Satan (Revelation 20:10) and the judgment of unrepentant humanity (Revelation 20:11-15), the creation of a New Earth and New Heaven and the establishment of the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21-22); therefore, Israel will remain and will soon come under a nuclear attack initiated by the demonic coalition of Russia-China-Islam/Iran v. Jerusalem, Israel...this will initiate the 2nd-Advent of Messiah Jesus; therefore, Israel will remain irrespective of Allah's (Satan's) intent.

     
    Factfinder
  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @JulesKorngold

    It's not about gods or divine providence. Israel made wise choices when provided with opportunity and Gaza didn't. Palestinians keep listening to Arabs who don't want them in their countries. At some point they need to be held accountable for their own choices. I believe if they had adopted the idea that if Israel survives, we do too, they'd be in a much better situation right now.
    just_sayinJulesKorngold
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -   edited May 9
    Elohim is in control of His creation narrative and His eschatological plan...Israel will remain valid until subsequent the Millennial Reign of Messiah Jesus and there will be reminders of the Law Covenant and the Tribes into Eternity as well. No need to worry atheists, secular humanists...it does NOT concern you as you are dead spiritually today and will die eternally in Hell subsequent judgment.


  • jackjack 485 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Why Can't 1.8 Billion Muslims Destroy Israel?


    Hello Julie:

    Well, the Jews have nukes, and the Arabs don't. 

    excon


    JulesKorngold
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Has nothing to do with nukes but the one who has the promises of Elohim.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Has nothing to do with nukes but the one who has the promises of Elohim.

    But Hansel and Gretel stole the promise and Santa Clause was blamed, Elohim punished Israel and drove them out but the most powerful all knowing one true god, the UN gave Israel their land back promising not to take it from them again! So Elohim having been humiliated stole Santa's elves thus becoming the elf god of the ignorant.  
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Elohim is in complete control of the eschatological narrative; therefore, Israel will remain until the Heavens and the Earth are consumed by fire and this truism is reality irrespective of the vile and arrogant atheists' desire otherwise.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Elohim is in complete control of the eschatological narrative; therefore, Israel will remain until the Heavens and the Earth are consumed by fire and this truism is reality irrespective of the vile and arrogant atheists' desire otherwise.

    So you admit there is no freewill and your elf god is an overbearing sadistic attention whore? Interesting. Does it know how you misrepresent it?
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Elohim's plans and purposes are not ours but I trust Him fully. Trusting in Jesus and walking by the Spirit is the Way to understanding.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Elohim's plans and purposes are not ours but I trust Him fully. Trusting in Jesus and walking by the Spirit is the Way to understanding.

    But you don't understand scripture or reality. How do you explain that?
  • PutinPutin 106 Pts   -  
    The tireless efforts of Julia and Jakie.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    The Savior of Israel
    1But now, O Jacob, listen to the Lord who created you.
    O Israel, the one who formed you says,
    “Do not be afraid, for I have ransomed you.
    I have called you by name; you are mine.
    2When you go through deep waters,
    I will be with you.
    When you go through rivers of difficulty,
    you will not drown.
    When you walk through the fire of oppression,
    you will not be burned up;
    the flames will not consume you.
    3For I am the Lord, your God,
    the Holy One of Israel, your Savior.
    I gave Egypt as a ransom for your freedom;
    I gave Ethiopia and Seba in your place.
    4Others were given in exchange for you.
    I traded their lives for yours
    because you are precious to me.
    You are honored, and I love you.
    5“Do not be afraid, for I am with you.
    I will gather you and your children from east and west.
    6I will say to the north and south,
    ‘Bring my sons and daughters back to Israel
    from the distant corners of the earth.
    7Bring all who claim me as their God,
    for I have made them for my glory.
    It was I who created them.’”
    8Bring out the people who have eyes but are blind,
    who have ears but are deaf.
    9Gather the nations together!
    Assemble the peoples of the world!
    Which of their idols has ever foretold such things?
    Which can predict what will happen tomorrow?
    Where are the witnesses of such predictions?
    Who can verify that they spoke the truth?
    10“But you are my witnesses, O Israel!” says the Lord.
    “You are my servant.
    You have been chosen to know me, believe in me,
    and understand that I alone am God.
    There is no other God—
    there never has been, and there never will be.
    11I, yes I, am the Lord,
    and there is no other Savior.
    12First I predicted your rescue,
    then I saved you and proclaimed it to the world.
    No foreign god has ever done this.
    You are witnesses that I am the only God,”
    says the Lord.
    13“From eternity to eternity I am God.
    No one can snatch anyone out of my hand.
    No one can undo what I have done.”
    The Lord’s Promise of Victory
    14This is what the Lord says—your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
    “For your sakes I will send an army against Babylon,
    forcing the Babylonians to flee in those ships they are so proud of.
    15I am the Lord, your Holy One,
    Israel’s Creator and King.
    16I am the Lord, who opened a way through the waters,
    making a dry path through the sea.
    17I called forth the mighty army of Egypt
    with all its chariots and horses.
    I drew them beneath the waves, and they drowned,
    their lives snuffed out like a smoldering candlewick.
    18“But forget all that—
    it is nothing compared to what I am going to do.
    19For I am about to do something new.
    See, I have already begun! Do you not see it?
    I will make a pathway through the wilderness.
    I will create rivers in the dry wasteland.
    20The wild animals in the fields will thank me,
    the jackals and owls, too,
    for giving them water in the desert.
    Yes, I will make rivers in the dry wasteland
    so my chosen people can be refreshed.
    21I have made Israel for myself,
    and they will someday honor me before the whole world.
    22“But, dear family of Jacob, you refuse to ask for my help.
    You have grown tired of me, O Israel!
    23You have not brought me sheep or goats for burnt offerings.
    You have not honored me with sacrifices,
    though I have not burdened and wearied you
    with requests for grain offerings and frankincense.
    24You have not brought me fragrant calamus
    or pleased me with the fat from sacrifices.
    Instead, you have burdened me with your sins
    and wearied me with your faults.
    25“I—yes, I alone—will blot out your sins for my own sake
    and will never think of them again.
    26Let us review the situation together,
    and you can present your case to prove your innocence.
    27From the very beginning, your first ancestor sinned against me;
    all your leaders broke my laws.
    28That is why I have disgraced your priests;
    I have decreed complete destruction for Jacob
    and shame for Israel.

  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    The Savior of Israel

    Isaiah 43 was written about 750 bce. After those reassuring words Israelis were driven into exile and/or conquered several times. Alexander the Great ring a bell? Oh but this time it's for real eh?...

    The Hasmoneans ruled Jerusalem until 63 BCE, when the Romans took over the city. The Romans ruled Israel for the next 400 years.


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Elohim's promises to the Nation of Israel are forever,

    Genesis 17:7-8 The second passage that influences my personal perspective is God's promise of the land of Canaan to Israel (Abraham's descendants) as an “everlasting possession.” The promise is made multiple times, with Genesis 17:7-8 being one of the clearest examples.

  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Elohim's promises to the Nation of Israel are forever,

    Except when he throws a hissy fit because they exercised freewill by choosing the opposite of its demands for eternal enslavement.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel will remain while Islam and every filthy atheist will burn in Hell.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel will remain while Islam and every filthy atheist will burn in Hell.

    The fact that makes you happy reflects accurately the truth that Christianity in the bane of creation.
    jack
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel will remain and Islam will perish in Hell. Israel is of eschatological relevance; Islam is Satan's tool in Time and it will perish with the Judgment of Satan and the fallen angels; therefore, Islam will never destroy Israel and a Jewish remnant will exist forever.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel will remain and Islam will perish in Hell. Israel is of eschatological relevance; Islam is Satan's tool in Time and it will perish with the Judgment of Satan and the fallen angels; therefore, Islam will never destroy Israel and a Jewish remnant will exist forever.

    And then the prince kissed sleeping beauty, she awoke and they lived happily ever after.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel will remain because of its eschatological imperatives but the atheist will perish like a vapor in nihilism and be remembered no more as they will perish in mind, body, soul, forever.

     
  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel will remain because of its eschatological imperatives but the atheist will perish like a vapor in nihilism and be remembered no more as they will perish in mind, body, soul, forever.

    You've perfected stupidity. Nihilism is a positive attribute when it comes to the stupidity of the bible. So carry on...

    Catherine Nixey Quote It wasnt just the fact that
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    It is ONLY those who have believed and entered into covenant relationship with the Father through faith in the Son that have life; all else perish in sin and ultimately Hell.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    It is ONLY those who have believed and entered into covenant relationship with the Father through faith in the Son that have life; all else perish in sin and ultimately Hell.

    You look forward to kneeling at the crotch of your masculine attention whore forever? 

    Ignorance of Scripture is the root of
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    The War between Satan and Elohim has been won...Jesus is the Victor...Islam cannot and will not displace Israel's children as Israel is Elohim's eschatological real estate.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -   edited May 12
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    The War between Satan and Elohim has been won...Jesus is the Victor...Islam cannot and will not displace Israel's children as Israel is Elohim's eschatological real estate.

    So it's not a war it's your attention whore elf god just being sadistic? Makes sense to those who comprehend scripter. Are you so hateful cause your god made you personally so ignorant and irrelevant?
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Islam, atheists, cults, sects, don't possess the power or strength to overcome Israel's eschatological relevance...Israel will remain.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Islam, atheists, cults, sects, don't possess the power or strength to overcome Israel's eschatological relevance...Israel will remain.

    Oh, I almost missed that! You admitting your Christian cult has no power. That's why everyone sees through your idiotic lies and prefer the truth. 

    Don't know about your childish fairytale for dummies is actually preserving Israel but guns, bombs and ammo seem to be doing the trick. Do you serve god in such a ignorant capacity because it has orifices it lets you lick daily?
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Though every Nation fall, Israel will remain.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Though every Nation fall, Israel will remain.

    Got you where I want you. Keep spamming. Sure you don't have anything of value to add....
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    No one will nullify Israel's dominance in the Middle East as Israel is Elohim's eschatological Home of the King...Jesus.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No one will nullify Israel's dominance in the Middle East as Israel is Elohim's eschatological Home of the King...Jesus.

    Except all those who have don so in the past. 
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel is both physical and Spiritual...it will remain until the judgement of Satan and the Atheist (Revelation 20:10-15).


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel is both physical and Spiritual...it will remain until the judgement of Satan and the Atheist (Revelation 20:10-15).

    People did that, wrote your fantasy book and are protecting Israel as we speak. No elf god present. Certainly not the weak cowardly one you serve in perverse fashion. 
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel will remain though the atheist die in their sin...Israel will remain.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel will remain though the atheist die in their sin...Israel will remain.

    Not what your wife whispered in my ear.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    The Muslim, the Islamist, will never destroy Israel.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    The Muslim, the Islamist, will never destroy Israel.

    Your wife doesn't agree. I'll be in Texas soon.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel is the apple of Elohim's eye...Israel will remain.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel is the apple of Elohim's eye...Israel will remain.

    Your wife said god is the sucker of the penis and you always volunteer to emulate..
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel's relevance will continue into the Millennial Kingdom...while Satan (Allah) is confined and denied access to humanity. 

     The city of "YHWH Shamma," (cf. Ezek 48:35) the new Jerusalem, will be the gathering point of the world's nations, and will serve as the capital of the renewed Kingdom of Israel. Ezekiel prophesied that this city will have 12 gates, one gate for each of the tribes of Israel.



  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Israel's relevance will continue into the Millennial Kingdom...while Satan (Allah) is confined and denied access to humanity. 

     The city of "YHWH Shamma," (cf. Ezek 48:35) the new Jerusalem, will be the gathering point of the world's nations, and will serve as the capital of the renewed Kingdom of Israel. Ezekiel prophesied that this city will have 12 gates, one gate for each of the tribes of Israel.

    Your wife said you won't be there cause you're too involved in male crotches. What does she mean? Don't worry I'll ask her.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    Israel will remain, the atheist will perish in Hell, forever.



  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    Israel will remain, the atheist will perish in Hell, forever.



    Your wife said you're gay. Israel is strong. They don't need you either.
  • ChewingTinFoilChewingTinFoil 33 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Because

    Because there’s still an the entire union of Europe and NATO 
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; You lie to support you failed ideology...Israel's people are NOT the focus but the Land and Elohim's eschatological imperatives are. Elohim will spare a remnant of Israel's children due His promises to Abraham and the prophets but the Land is the focal point, the center of the Earth, it will remain until Elohim completes His eschatological work there through Messiah and the Millennial Kingdom. 

     
  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You lie to support you failed ideology...Israel's people are NOT the focus but the Land and Elohim's eschatological imperatives are. Elohim will spare a remnant of Israel's children due His promises to Abraham and the prophets but the Land is the focal point, the center of the Earth, it will remain until Elohim completes His eschatological work there through Messiah and the Millennial Kingdom. 

    What is my ideology? I'm sure you don't know but you will assume 'atheism' which has nothing to do with ideology so that makes you the li*r.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 175 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; Your ideology is nihilism, arrogance, stup-idity, foolishness i.e., atheism.
  • FactfinderFactfinder 898 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; Your ideology is nihilism, arrogance, stup-idity, foolishness i.e., atheism.
    Wrong. That's you. You admitted it when you said you abused minors while prowling their neighborhoods. Have you ever read the bible?
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