DebateIsland.com is the largest online debate website globally where anyone can anonymously and easily debate online, casually or formally, while connecting with their friends and others. Users, regardless of debating skill level, can civilly debate just about anything online in a text-based online debate website that supports five easy-to-use and fun debating formats ranging from Casual, to Formalish, to Lincoln-Douglas Formal. In addition, people can improve their debating skills with the help of revolutionary artificial intelligence-powered technology on our debate website. DebateIsland is totally free and provides the best online debate experience of any debate website.
Is hurting someone's feelings good reason to limit freedom of speech?
Debate Information
What is your opinion on people being silenced or posts erased because their thoughts may offend others? How far should this go if it should be acceptable at all?
Hurting someone's feeling is not a reason to limit free speech and "I'm offended" is not a valid argument.. That said, there's a difference between having the right to say something and the right to have our opinion publicly displayed on a platform we do not own, be it a newspaper, website, etc... Each platform owner is free to limit what is displayed through their medium, at their sole discretion.
Good points and agreed but why would any legitimate platform want to limit who's opinions are acceptable and who's opinions are not? The media itself and all other platforms exists because of freedom of speech. Is it not then hypocritical for them to limit the same rights to others? @Plaffelvohfen
Free speech is about ideas, about the right to have and express ideas right?
Well, the public space is the market where those ideas are traded. Think of platform owner as shopping malls owner in a market context. They offer you a space (that they own remember, not you) to display your ideas, there are many reason a shopping mall owner would refuse certain types of business to operate within their mall right? It would be a bad idea to allow a sex-club next to a kid oriented business for example...
It's not hypocrisy, it's usually market related though sometimes it's a personal value of the owner of the platform and since he owns it, he's free to establish any rule he wants... As a restaurant owner I'm free to throw out any customer I deem disruptive to my business...
If you want your idea to be seen in the market and no platform owner will allow your product to be offered there's only one alternative, build or buy your own platform...
If an idea is good enough, there will be a demand for it, if not well maybe one should realize there's something wrong about the idea to begin with...
The internet, is its own type of an educational platform.
Various activists, advocates, the anti religious, the religious, the pro illegal drug crowd, the, (this or that matters crowds,) the crowds that questions the actions of law enforcement, but will be purposefully silent, when various crimes get committed by various career criminals, and offenders?
And protest some of law enforcement, but not the criminals, or the offenders?
Double standards, opinion oriented news, in the place of basic journalism?
Welcome to the artificial internet underground, classroom, 21st century style.
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 82%     Substantial: 73%     Spelling & Grammar: 90%     Sentiment: Negative     Avg. Grade Level: 13.4     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: various crimes    illegal drug crowd   actions of law enforcement   Double standards  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
If the remark would be found pointlessly offensive by a reasonable person it should be restricted speech, all non constructive speech should be supprossed
The passion for destruction is also a creative passion. Mikhail Bakunin
If the remark would be found pointlessly offensive by a reasonable person it should be restricted speech, all non constructive speech should be supprossed
That isn't the definition of "fighting words"
Texas v. Johnson (1989)
In Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989),
the Supreme Court redefined the scope of the fighting words doctrine to
mean words that are "a direct personal insult or an invitation to
exchange fisticuffs." In the case, the Court held that the burning of a
United States flag, which was considered symbolic speech, did not
constitute fighting words.`
Free speech is about ideas, about the right to have and express ideas right?
Well, the public space is the market where those ideas are traded. Think of platform owner as shopping malls owner in a market context. They offer you a space (that they own remember, not you) to display your ideas, there are many reason a shopping mall owner would refuse certain types of business to operate within their mall right? It would be a bad idea to allow a sex-club next to a kid oriented business for example...
It's not hypocrisy, it's usually market related though sometimes it's a personal value of the owner of the platform and since he owns it, he's free to establish any rule he wants... As a restaurant owner I'm free to throw out any customer I deem disruptive to my business...
If you want your idea to be seen in the market and no platform owner will allow your product to be offered there's only one alternative, build or buy your own platform...
If an idea is good enough, there will be a demand for it, if not well
maybe one should realize there's something wrong about the idea to begin
with...
So it would be ok for phone companies to get together and have their customers and potential customers fill out a form about their political and/or religious affiliations, scan phone conversations for key words, and deny service to people who they decide are talking too much to, in their opinion, the wrong people or are saying the wrong things?
So it would be ok for phone companies to get together and have their customers and potential customers fill out a form about their political and/or religious affiliations, scan phone conversations for key words, and deny service to people who they decide are talking too much to, in their opinion, the wrong people or are saying the wrong things?
Of course not, why would you think that? You missed the publicly displayed part... Those phone companies would be infringing not on free speech rights but privacy rights...
Of course not, why would you think that? You missed the publicly displayed part... Those phone companies would be infringing not on free speech rights but privacy rights...
OK, just clearing things up. So Amazon's deplatforming organizations which don't conform to Bezos' leftest ideology needs to be stopped.
Ok, sorry... Well, as long as corporations are persons they have the same property rights as individuals... The problem really is the size of certain players in the market (Amazon, PayPal, etc), but even if those are split by government intervention, they still would have the same property rights as the former entities and would have the right to establish their own Terms of use and make them as restrictive as they want and so it doesn't solve the original problem...
A platform's identity and ability to attract an audience are determined by the activities they accept / cultivate, not vice versa. Infowars wanted to be on Facebook because it made it easier to sell your grandparents vitamin supplements, but Facebook felt that leaving them on make it a place families (and their grandparents) won't visit. Gab would like to use Stripe or Paypal because they are trusted payment providers, but those networks felt they'd stop being trusted payment providers if they let Gab stay on.
And there's plenty of reason to think they're right: super-permissive platforms exist and work (4chan et al.), they just don't attract the same broad audience. When people complain about being deplatformed, they're just saying "the platforms that accept me aren't popular enough". I'm glad our internet is enough of a distributed commons that many platforms are broadly accessible -- but nobody owes anyone an audience at the most popular ones.
The First change made in America as a nation upon common defense to the general welfare is set on a impartial scale of words, speech, and religions in a united state set with no cost or self-value Versus organized form of grievance, meaning filed as a way to set the principle of order. The filing method is left open for public understanding but has never been placed in writing of any kind to be independent from unite states of constitution. Although this claim of civil independence is on record as being made by some political regions of the United States.
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 96%     Substantial: 98%     Spelling & Grammar: 98%     Sentiment: Neutral     Avg. Grade Level: 12.98     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: claim of civil independence    filing method   united state   First change  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
Ok, sorry... Well, as long as corporations are persons they have the same property rights as individuals... The problem really is the size of certain players in the market (Amazon, PayPal, etc), but even if those are split by government intervention, they still would have the same property rights as the former entities and would have the right to establish their own Terms of use and make them as restrictive as they want and so it doesn't solve the original problem...
A platform's identity and ability to attract an audience are determined by the activities they accept / cultivate, not vice versa. Infowars wanted to be on Facebook because it made it easier to sell your grandparents vitamin supplements, but Facebook felt that leaving them on make it a place families (and their grandparents) won't visit. Gab would like to use Stripe or Paypal because they are trusted payment providers, but those networks felt they'd stop being trusted payment providers if they let Gab stay on.
And there's plenty of reason to think they're right: super-permissive platforms exist and work (4chan et al.), they just don't attract the same broad audience. When people complain about being deplatformed, they're just saying "the platforms that accept me aren't popular enough". I'm glad our internet is enough of a distributed commons that many platforms are broadly accessible -- but nobody owes anyone an audience at the most popular ones.
Telephone companies are corporations as well, so which is it? Are domain registrars and tech companies and crowdfunding platforms going too far with their terms of service, or are you changing your mind about how far telephone companies can go?
Telephone companies are corporations as well, so which is it? Are domain registrars and tech companies and crowdfunding platforms going too far with their terms of service, or are you changing your mind about how far telephone companies can go?
What do phone companies have to do with public display of opinion??? Phone conversations are implied to be private, not public...
An argument is pointless without truthful facts and everything about truth it’s in the hands of of the winners and everything else is just arguing between one another we debate without truth , but to win an all of our history is in the hands of the winners! That’s not the truth, just facts written by others. So to bitter I give love. To a you give truth!
Telephone companies are corporations as well, so which is it? Are domain registrars and tech companies and crowdfunding platforms going too far with their terms of service, or are you changing your mind about how far telephone companies can go?
What do phone companies have to do with public display of opinion??? Phone conversations are implied to be private, not public...
What does issuing domain names have to do with public display of opinion??? What does crowdfunding have to do with public display of opinion??? What does a tech company have to do with public display of opinion???
What does issuing domain names have to do with public display of opinion??? What does crowdfunding have to do with public display of opinion??? What does a tech company have to do with public display of opinion???
In this case we as a nation would never allow monopolies and it is global now and everything is recorded now the freedom of privacy is a illusion that is why we broke up one Monopolies we have this thing called the constitution and we are giving the right of privacy and now that is a form of control communication is progress and controlled by the gate keepers and if Roosevelt was here know every monopolization would be split just like att was. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely!
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 83%     Substantial: 99%     Spelling & Grammar: 93%     Sentiment: Positive     Avg. Grade Level: 13.24     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: freedom of privacy    absolute power   form of control communication   right of privacy  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
Yes, that's what I'm asking... What is the common problem with these, if any?
The common problem is that NONE of these companies have to do with public display of opinion. I thought I made that pretty clear. Why, in your opinion, is it ok for 3 of the 4 companies to suppress speech through restrictive terms of service, but not the fourth?
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 94%     Substantial: 84%     Spelling & Grammar: 89%     Sentiment: Neutral     Avg. Grade Level: 6.46     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: common problem    public display of opinion   NONE of these companies   opinion  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
Yes, that's what I'm asking... What is the common problem with these, if any?
The common problem is that NONE of these companies have to do with public display of opinion??? I thought I made that pretty clear. Why, in your opinion, is it ok for 3 of the 4 companies to suppress speech through restrictive terms of service, but not the fourth?
Sorry but "issuing domain names" & "crowdfunding" are not companies but activities... And "tech company" is rather vague... Still don't see free speech issues here...
Sorry but "issuing domain names" & "crowdfunding" are not companies but activities... And "tech company" is rather vague... Still don't see free speech issues here...
Issuing domain names is done by a web hosting company. Crowdfunding is done be a crowdfunding company. Connecting a telephone call from one phone to another phone is done by a telephone company. Now that we have the remedial terminology out of the way, why do you think companies that issue domain names or provide crowdfunding services should be allowed to deny their services to customers based on ideological beliefs, but a company that connects one phone to another phone does not have such liberty?
Let’s put it this way: My friend takes my sh*t and breaks it. I “hurt his feelings” because I called him an *insert random term*. If we limite free speech based upon that, I would be Punished.
yes I know this is very simplistic
Not every quote you read on the internet is true- Abraham Lincoln
I still don't see how phone companies relate to this debate at all... Seems you're mixing multiple issues together, privacy issues, free speech issues, property issues...
Let's tackle them one at a time, let's start with crowdfunding service provider, if you don't like one, try another, what's the problem?? They should not have terms of use or what?? Give me a concrete example of where or how, you think a crowdfunding service provider could infringe on free speech.
I still don't see how phone companies relate to this debate at all... Seems you're mixing multiple issues together, privacy issues, free speech issues, property issues...
Let's tackle them one at a time, let's start with crowdfunding service provider, if you don't like one, try another, what's the problem?? They should not have terms of use or what?? Give me a concrete example of where or how, you think a crowdfunding service provider could infringe on free speech.
The same could be said of phone companies that decide to turn you down because of your political beliefs. If Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint, Boost, MetroPCS, and Virgin all get together an ban all people of a particular political persuasion, what's the big deal? There's still Cricket and Straight Talk, right?
The same could be said of phone companies that decide to turn you down because of your political beliefs. If Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint, Boost, MetroPCS, and Virgin all get together an ban all people of a particular political persuasion, what's the big deal? There's still Cricket and Straight Talk, right?
Are there evidence that they do that? That's a big "if"...
And anyway I was asking an example of where or how "crowdfunding companies" are/could be infringing on free speech right...
Are there evidence that they do that? That's a big "if"...
And anyway I was asking an example of where or how "crowdfunding companies" are/could be infringing on free speech right...
, just stop being an already. I've already post examples. Do you believe crowdfunding companies can deny clientele based on their political beliefs where phone companies cannot?
, just stop being an already. I've already post examples. Do you believe crowdfunding companies can deny clientele based on their political beliefs where phone companies cannot?
The examples you posted relate to breaches of Terms of use, not about denying service because of religious or political beliefs... I'm looking for examples of denial to even register as a user based on religious or political beliefs, prior to any use of said service, can you give any?
" Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 38%     Substantial: 84%     Spelling & Grammar: 93%     Sentiment: Negative     Avg. Grade Level: 11.16     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: political beliefs    breaches of Terms of use   examples of denial   Dude  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
The examples you posted relate to breaches of Terms of use, not about denying service because of religious or political beliefs... I'm looking for examples of denial to even register as a user based on religious or political beliefs, prior to any use of said service, can you give any?
The "breaches" of Terms of use because of political beliefs
Just answer the question, do you believe crowdfunding companies can deny clientele based on their political beliefs where phone companies cannot?
First, terms of use are not free speech issues but property right issues...
Second, I don't think your question makes any sense... Are you really saying that you believe crowdfunding service providers can refuse anyone the use of their service based on religious or political beliefs? That crowdfunding service providers specifically ask and make it mandatory to provide religious or political affiliation at registration?? Now that could be problematic, especially the mandatory part, but I've yet to see a single case of this happening... If they don't ask specifically for this information at registration, then there's nothing to talk about, abide by the rules you agreed when you registered or be banned and try to register elsewhere where the rules are more permissive, simple really...
" Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 90%     Substantial: 90%     Spelling & Grammar: 97%     Sentiment: Negative     Avg. Grade Level: 12.56     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: service providers    political beliefs   terms of use   use of their service  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
First, terms of use are not free speech issues but property right issues...
Second, I don't think your question makes any sense... Are you really saying that you believe crowdfunding service providers can refuse anyone the use of their service based on religious or political beliefs? That crowdfunding service providers specifically ask and make it mandatory to provide religious or political affiliation at registration?? Now that could be problematic, especially the mandatory part, but I've yet to see a single case of this happening... If they don't ask specifically for this information at registration, then there's nothing to talk about, abide by the rules you agreed when you registered or be banned and try to register elsewhere where the rules are more permissive, simple really...
Um, yeah, Yiannopoulos was booted off Patreon for supporting "hate groups", most definitely a political consideration.
You continue to avoid answer the question I'm asking, so I'll boil it down to a simple YES or No question. Can a phone company demand the same terms and conditions and deny people service that a web hosting company can demand? Once again, this is a YES or No question.
See, you said "Yannapopoulos was booted off", not "was prevented from"... He was banned AFTER he broke the terms of use, he was not prevented from using the service in the first place... In other words, he threw himself out by his actions...
And still your question doesn't quite make sense... Here's how I'd answer your question... Neither phones companies or any other type of company can ask, in a mandatory way, your political or religious affiliation in order to allow registration as a user of the service they publicly offer... If any actually does that, which I highly doubt is happening, then you'd probably have a case to make in court...
You either have free speech or limited speech; there is no middle ground. If you dictate limits on what can be said by one's volition, that is no longer free speech - that's limited speech.
"Hate speech" is a figment of the imagination. There's no such thing. Someone may hypothetically say something in which you condemn with or actively detest, although that doesn't fabricate as "hate speech." It's merely something you disapprove. Whether you or anyone else for that matter conceives something said to be derogatory, that does not determine whether or not specific things can be legally spoken of under the freedom of speech.
Expressing an opinion - even if it's an opinion that derives from animosity - does not incite or encourage anyone to do anything. If someone asserts something and it does incite someone to act, that action will be subjected to existing laws that don't even associate with free speech.
In my opinion, any assertion directed toward a particular individual or group associated with the intention to conjure pain or mental anguish - is repugnant. Although, if I were to say "You can't say that.", that would be an infringement of their freedom of speech.
When your freedom of speech becomes more than merely an opinion and becomes an instrument to oppress and limit the rights of others, I believe that's going over the line - and that's too bad for me. It does not, and never entails, that someone can't say it.
See, you said "Yannapopoulos was booted off", not "was prevented from"... He was banned AFTER he broke the terms of use, he was not prevented from using the service in the first place... In other words, he threw himself out by his actions...
And still your question doesn't quite make sense... Here's how I'd answer your question... Neither phones companies or any other type of company can ask, in a mandatory way, your political or religious affiliation in order to allow registration as a user of the service they publicly offer... If any actually does that, which I highly doubt is happening, then you'd probably have a case to make in court...
You failed to answer the question yet again. Once again, You continue to avoid answer the question I'm asking, so I'll boil it
down to a simple YES or No question. Can a phone company demand the
same terms and conditions and deny people service that a web hosting
company can demand? Once again, this is a YES or No question.
Ok, I'll slightly modify your question like this: Can a phone company demand the same terms and conditions that a web hosting company can demand? I'd answer yes.
What no company can do, is make it mandatory to give your political or religious affiliation in order to register as a user or to use a service... Either phone companies or web hosting ones, can ban any user if the user does not follow the terms and conditions of use after registration...
Phone company would have no ground to ban a user from talking on the phone, because those conversations are private.
There, you finally acknowledge it, it's a privacy issue, not a free speech issue...
There's a distinction without a difference. Do people not deserve the same privacy considerations based on their beliefs?
There's a world of difference... When I talk to someone on the phone, it's between me and another person, this is private matters... When I post an opinion on a website, I voluntarily chose to renounce this right to privacy, I'm the one making it public, my own actions make it public, I want it to be public... Big difference...
" Adversus absurdum, contumaciter ac ridens! "
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 90%     Substantial: 85%     Spelling & Grammar: 90%     Sentiment: Neutral     Avg. Grade Level: 9.58     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issue    privacy considerations   Big difference   world of difference  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
When you take a public platform at least in the United States Constitution allows free speech and if you speak with passion and not hate speech We’re all allowed to have an opinion it’s how you express that opinion When you do it to incite a riot or cause physical harm that’s when you broken the law in the United States of America according to the constitution but that piece of paper now is like window dressing and the right speech is monitored On social platforms by algorithms so their program that way there’s nothing wrong with having a conversation about a topic it’s being able to speak intelligently decisively and respectively when you’re doing so all it Shouldn’t be a problem but unfortunately some people just didn’t get the right home training values morals and respect that you should have for every human being you have the right to speech not the right to Incite a riot with your hate speech or because something doesn’t seem politically correct we’re all humans and we are divided by Ideology and that’s instilled at home. Most of the platforms in social media when you read the rules there’s to be no hate speech I was taught as a child if you don’t have something nice to say just don’t say anything at all platforms seem to lean to the left and that is why I came here For this is why I went to war for this country For liberty and justice and the American way and that’s instilled in a living breathing document the constitution it’s like saying America you don’t have the right to bear arms another reason there’s so much anger from both sides of the aisle in the states unfortunately controversy Is what sells and that’s what the media does selves you something that is manufactured as Chomsky stated in his book forgive them for they know not what they do.
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 85%     Substantial: 84%     Spelling & Grammar: 98%     Sentiment: Positive     Avg. Grade Level: 8.58     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: free speech    United States Constitution   right speech   hate speech  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
There's a world of difference... When I talk to someone on the phone, it's between me and another person, this is private matters... When I post an opinion on a website, I voluntarily chose to renounce this right to privacy, I'm the one making it public, my own actions make it public, I want it to be public... Big difference...
No,we've just established that most phone conversations these days are NOT private. The subject may be about private matters, but the conversations are usually NOT private conversations. No one except you is talking about posting on a website. It's no more the web hosting company's business what web pages are being posted than it is the phone company's business what phone conversations are taking place.
There, you finally acknowledge it, it's a privacy issue, not a free speech issue...
Also another freedom we have due to the constitution privacy the right to free speech right to bear arms but at this point everything has been or trying to be taken away speak truth and Passionate Just have a little couth when you speak in public you’ll aloud to have an opinion we all have them and some of them just stink! But when you spew hate instead of factual basis it’s very inciting and then violence Escalates due to the fact your opinion is not excepted.
See, you said "Yannapopoulos was booted off", not "was prevented from"... He was banned AFTER he broke the terms of use, he was not prevented from using the service in the first place... In other words, he threw himself out by his actions...
And still your question doesn't quite make sense... Here's how I'd answer your question... Neither phones companies or any other type of company can ask, in a mandatory way, your political or religious affiliation in order to allow registration as a user of the service they publicly offer... If any actually does that, which I highly doubt is happening, then you'd probably have a case to make in court...
You failed to answer the question yet again. Once again, You continue to avoid answer the question I'm asking, so I'll boil it
down to a simple YES or No question. Can a phone company demand the
same terms and conditions and deny people service that a web hosting
company can demand? Once again, this is a YES or No question.
Truthfully we supposed to have that right but do the patriot act nothing is ever a private anymore it’s all an illusion and words are for national security they say it’s still an invasion of our privacy if they want to listen to everyone else’s conversations they do but now they don’t listen to your content it’s all about the meta-data who you talk to and who you’re affiliated so yes you should be able to speak on your phone and say what you like because you pay for that service but read the fine print big brother is listening.
Debra AI Analytics      +   
  Considerate: 92%     Substantial: 76%     Spelling & Grammar: 98%     Sentiment: Positive     Avg. Grade Level: 7.68     Sources: 0     Entity Sentiment Detection: national security    fine print   patriot act   invasion of our privacy  
____________________
  Political Analysis: No Political Affiliation  
No,we've just established that most phone conversations these days are NOT private. The subject may be about private matters, but the conversations are usually NOT private conversations. No one except you is talking about posting on a website. It's no more the web hosting company's business what web pages are being posted than it is the phone company's business what phone conversations are taking place.
Sorry, you've asserted this not WE, I don't agree with you at all that phone conversations are not private... Sure they can be accessed with a legal warrant but no one can access my phone conversations without one...
Debra AI Prediction
Post Argument Now Debate Details +
Arguments
  Considerate: 90%  
  Substantial: 56%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.42  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 19%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 82%  
  Substantial: 62%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 92%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.74  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: Good points    legitimate platform   rights   media  
  Relevant (Beta): 73%  
  Learn More About Debra
Free speech is about ideas, about the right to have and express ideas right?
Well, the public space is the market where those ideas are traded. Think of platform owner as shopping malls owner in a market context. They offer you a space (that they own remember, not you) to display your ideas, there are many reason a shopping mall owner would refuse certain types of business to operate within their mall right? It would be a bad idea to allow a sex-club next to a kid oriented business for example...
It's not hypocrisy, it's usually market related though sometimes it's a personal value of the owner of the platform and since he owns it, he's free to establish any rule he wants... As a restaurant owner I'm free to throw out any customer I deem disruptive to my business...
If you want your idea to be seen in the market and no platform owner will allow your product to be offered there's only one alternative, build or buy your own platform...
If an idea is good enough, there will be a demand for it, if not well maybe one should realize there's something wrong about the idea to begin with...
  Considerate: 75%  
  Substantial: 93%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 97%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.06  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: platform owner    Free speech   express ideas   public space  
  Relevant (Beta): 64%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 91%  
  Substantial: 19%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 50%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.76  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: words doctrine         
  Relevant (Beta): 98%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 39%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 71%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.96  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: words doctrine    individual face   words   face  
  Relevant (Beta): 51%  
  Learn More About Debra
The internet, is its own type of an educational platform.
Various activists, advocates, the anti religious, the religious, the pro illegal drug crowd, the, (this or that matters crowds,) the crowds that questions the actions of law enforcement, but will be purposefully silent, when various crimes get committed by various career criminals, and offenders?
And protest some of law enforcement, but not the criminals, or the offenders?
Double standards, opinion oriented news, in the place of basic journalism?
Welcome to the artificial internet underground, classroom, 21st century style.
  Considerate: 82%  
  Substantial: 73%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 90%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 13.4  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: various crimes    illegal drug crowd   actions of law enforcement   Double standards  
  Relevant (Beta): 60%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 82%  
  Substantial: 39%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 92%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 13.18  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: reasonable person    remark   speech   constructive speech  
  Relevant (Beta): 87%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 86%  
  Substantial: 92%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 92%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 7.32  
  Sources: 6  
  Relevant (Beta): 87%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 73%  
  Substantial: 94%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 96%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.3  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: platform owner    Free speech   religious affiliations   potential customers  
  Relevant (Beta): 55%  
  Learn More About Debra
Of course not, why would you think that? You missed the publicly displayed part... Those phone companies would be infringing not on free speech rights but privacy rights...
  Considerate: 76%  
  Substantial: 92%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.26  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: phone companies    religious affiliations   potential customers   scan phone conversations  
  Relevant (Beta): 92%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 84%  
  Substantial: 86%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 84%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.02  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: phone companies    free speech rights   privacy rights   Bezos' leftest ideology  
  Relevant (Beta): 96%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 91%  
  Substantial: 91%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 89%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.62  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issue    facial recognition software   government agencies   Bezos' leftest ideology  
  Relevant (Beta): 94%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 32%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 96%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.78  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: good enough grounds    else says   limitation of free speech   individual  
  Relevant (Beta): 77%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 72%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 77%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.22  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issue    facial recognition software   government agencies   GoDaddy  
  Relevant (Beta): 49%  
  Learn More About Debra
Ok, sorry... Well, as long as corporations are persons they have the same property rights as individuals... The problem really is the size of certain players in the market (Amazon, PayPal, etc), but even if those are split by government intervention, they still would have the same property rights as the former entities and would have the right to establish their own Terms of use and make them as restrictive as they want and so it doesn't solve the original problem...
A platform's identity and ability to attract an audience are determined by the activities they accept / cultivate, not vice versa. Infowars wanted to be on Facebook because it made it easier to sell your grandparents vitamin supplements, but Facebook felt that leaving them on make it a place families (and their grandparents) won't visit. Gab would like to use Stripe or Paypal because they are trusted payment providers, but those networks felt they'd stop being trusted payment providers if they let Gab stay on.
And there's plenty of reason to think they're right: super-permissive platforms exist and work (4chan et al.), they just don't attract the same broad audience. When people complain about being deplatformed, they're just saying "the platforms that accept me aren't popular enough". I'm glad our internet is enough of a distributed commons that many platforms are broadly accessible -- but nobody owes anyone an audience at the most popular ones.
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 99%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 96%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.7  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 68%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 96%  
  Substantial: 98%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 98%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.98  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: claim of civil independence    filing method   united state   First change  
  Relevant (Beta): 98%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 97%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 95%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.72  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 23%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 92%  
  Substantial: 91%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 92%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.06  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: Telephone companies    Phone conversations   tech companies   domain registrars  
  Relevant (Beta): 54%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 61%  
  Substantial: 72%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 97%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 6.62  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: truthful facts    argument   truth   hands of the winners  
  Relevant (Beta): 97%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 80%  
  Substantial: 25%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 94%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.32  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: truth    nbsp      
  Relevant (Beta): 91%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 92%  
  Substantial: 97%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 92%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.92  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: Telephone companies    Phone conversations   tech companies   domain names  
  Relevant (Beta): 80%  
  Learn More About Debra
Yes, that's what I'm asking... What is the common problem with these, if any?
  Considerate: 93%  
  Substantial: 57%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 91%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 7.1  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: domain names    common problem   public display of opinion   tech company  
  Relevant (Beta): 82%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 83%  
  Substantial: 99%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 13.24  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: freedom of privacy    absolute power   form of control communication   right of privacy  
  Relevant (Beta): 99%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 94%  
  Substantial: 84%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 89%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 6.46  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: common problem    public display of opinion   NONE of these companies   opinion  
  Relevant (Beta): 85%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 77%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 82%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 7.32  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 73%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 90%  
  Substantial: 86%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 89%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.6  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 56%  
  Learn More About Debra
My friend takes my sh*t and breaks it. I “hurt his feelings” because I called him an *insert random term*. If we limite free speech based upon that, I would be Punished.
yes I know this is very simplistic
  Considerate: 44%  
  Substantial: 97%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 91%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 3.7  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: limite free speech    feelings   way   friend  
  Relevant (Beta): 96%  
  Learn More About Debra
I still don't see how phone companies relate to this debate at all... Seems you're mixing multiple issues together, privacy issues, free speech issues, property issues...
Let's tackle them one at a time, let's start with crowdfunding service provider, if you don't like one, try another, what's the problem?? They should not have terms of use or what?? Give me a concrete example of where or how, you think a crowdfunding service provider could infringe on free speech.
  Considerate: 88%  
  Substantial: 88%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 96%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.48  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issues    service provider   concrete example   free speech issues  
  Relevant (Beta): 67%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 79%  
  Substantial: 95%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 91%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.04  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: T-Mobile    political beliefs   privacy issues   service provider  
  Relevant (Beta): 92%  
  Learn More About Debra
And anyway I was asking an example of where or how "crowdfunding companies" are/could be infringing on free speech right...
  Considerate: 72%  
  Substantial: 84%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 85%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.9  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 90%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 37%  
  Substantial: 78%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 82%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.84  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 94%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 38%  
  Substantial: 84%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.16  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: political beliefs    breaches of Terms of use   examples of denial   Dude  
  Relevant (Beta): 98%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 93%  
  Substantial: 86%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 92%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.7  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 85%  
  Learn More About Debra
First, terms of use are not free speech issues but property right issues...
Second, I don't think your question makes any sense... Are you really saying that you believe crowdfunding service providers can refuse anyone the use of their service based on religious or political beliefs? That crowdfunding service providers specifically ask and make it mandatory to provide religious or political affiliation at registration?? Now that could be problematic, especially the mandatory part, but I've yet to see a single case of this happening... If they don't ask specifically for this information at registration, then there's nothing to talk about, abide by the rules you agreed when you registered or be banned and try to register elsewhere where the rules are more permissive, simple really...
  Considerate: 90%  
  Substantial: 90%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 97%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.56  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: service providers    political beliefs   terms of use   use of their service  
  Relevant (Beta): 54%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 76%  
  Substantial: 89%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 94%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 12.2  
  Sources: 1  
  Relevant (Beta): 22%  
  Learn More About Debra
See, you said "Yannapopoulos was booted off", not "was prevented from"... He was banned AFTER he broke the terms of use, he was not prevented from using the service in the first place... In other words, he threw himself out by his actions...
And still your question doesn't quite make sense... Here's how I'd answer your question... Neither phones companies or any other type of company can ask, in a mandatory way, your political or religious affiliation in order to allow registration as a user of the service they publicly offer... If any actually does that, which I highly doubt is happening, then you'd probably have a case to make in court...
  Considerate: 76%  
  Substantial: 84%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 90%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.42  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 97%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 80%  
  Substantial: 99%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.36  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 99%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 73%  
  Substantial: 84%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 91%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.96  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 70%  
  Learn More About Debra
Ok, I'll slightly modify your question like this: Can a phone company demand the same terms and conditions that a web hosting company can demand? I'd answer yes.
What no company can do, is make it mandatory to give your political or religious affiliation in order to register as a user or to use a service... Either phone companies or web hosting ones, can ban any user if the user does not follow the terms and conditions of use after registration...
Phone company would have no ground to ban a user from talking on the phone, because those conversations are private.
  Considerate: 47%  
  Substantial: 99%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 94%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.62  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: phone company demand    Phone company   religious affiliation   phone companies  
  Relevant (Beta): 97%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 82%  
  Substantial: 89%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 85%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.32  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: Phone company    legal rights   person   phone  
  Relevant (Beta): 96%  
  Learn More About Debra
There, you finally acknowledge it, it's a privacy issue, not a free speech issue...
  Considerate: 78%  
  Substantial: 51%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.32  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issue    free speech issue      
  Relevant (Beta): 98%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 90%  
  Substantial: 82%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 86%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 11.14  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issue    free speech issue   distinction   privacy considerations  
  Relevant (Beta): 89%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 90%  
  Substantial: 85%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 90%  
  Sentiment: Neutral  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.58  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: privacy issue    privacy considerations   Big difference   world of difference  
  Relevant (Beta): 14%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 85%  
  Substantial: 84%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 98%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.58  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: free speech    United States Constitution   right speech   hate speech  
  Relevant (Beta): 50%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 87%  
  Substantial: 92%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 94%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.14  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: phone conversations    company's business   private matters   web pages  
  Relevant (Beta): 17%  
  Learn More About Debra
Also another freedom we have due to the constitution privacy the right to free speech right to bear arms but at this point everything has been or trying to be taken away speak truth and Passionate Just have a little couth when you speak in public you’ll aloud to have an opinion we all have them and some of them just stink! But when you spew hate instead of factual basis it’s very inciting and then violence Escalates due to the fact your opinion is not excepted.
  Considerate: 50%  
  Substantial: 85%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 93%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.04  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: factual basis    free speech issue   privacy issue   free speech right  
  Relevant (Beta): 98%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 71%  
  Substantial: 23%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 95%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.9  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: Pavlovian ring    bell   True Instrumental learning   dog  
  Relevant (Beta): 94%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 73%  
  Substantial: 83%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 89%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 9.08  
  Sources: 0  
  Relevant (Beta): 62%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 92%  
  Substantial: 76%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 98%  
  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 7.68  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: national security    fine print   patriot act   invasion of our privacy  
  Relevant (Beta): 45%  
  Learn More About Debra
  Considerate: 86%  
  Substantial: 83%  
  Spelling & Grammar: 94%  
  Sentiment: Negative  
  Avg. Grade Level: 10.72  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: phone conversations    legal warrant   private conversations   private matters  
  Relevant (Beta): 21%  
  Learn More About Debra