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I think the difference between how we are thinking about this is about how we define "Marriage equality" Where for you it is based on physical equality, while the rest of us are talking about legal equality.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Not every marriage results in children. Not every marriage is equal regardless of sexuality. Homosexuals should have the same rights because it is two consenting adults harming nobody at all. Again, it does not harm society when heterosexual marriages can result in no children aswell, and homosexual marriages can result in the creation of children in a non-direct way. It is only less than 10% of the population, I don't see why they should be forced not to marry other than ignorance?
Equal, by the law, and not discriminated against. This is what activists fight for. There was marriage inequality in the united states, and still is in a ton of countries. Inequality when it comes to discrimination and laws.
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Before I respond to your post, I have a quick question for you. How did you break up the quotes when you responded to me? I have been trying to figure out how to do that for a while now.
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Why should we treat people differently under the law based on biological differences?
Would it be acceptable then, to only let good-looking people have children and forcibly sterilize ugly people and bar them from marriage and relationships?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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I think you are reading too much into what marriage is. Marriage is not a life-long commitment; marriage is not a declaration of sexual exclusivity (although often it may be implied); marriage is not an agreement to have or to be able to have biological children. Marriage, at the end of the day, is just a paper declaring a new legal status for the involved parties.
I am not sure why you keep bringing up the point about homosexual behavior being all that is practiced in a society, when we both know that this is not and will never be the case.
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There is always some inequality in different cases, simply because there are no two absolutely identical individuals on this planet. The question is what type of inequality you find relevant to the discussion at hand and why. I, for one, am not convinced that treating a heterosexual marriage differently from a homosexual marriage makes any sense as far as the law goes.
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Not all heterosexual couples have kids anyways, would not they be more at fault then for destroying the family unit when deciding to remain childless, even more so than a gay couple who adopts?
Besides this, if the government gets to decide who can and can not have relationships, what makes you assume that you would be allowed to? They might decide that only a select few people can have kids as part of their job, because that would be more efficient. At this point, the government would raise the kids outside of the family. My point is, if the government gets to decide it would be better and more efficient to just factory-farm people. Hardly sounds ideal doesn't it?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Assuming that the government should be involved in this debate, why would it call a relationship marriage that has no intention/ability to produce children? That is really bizarre. In any case, would you agree that children are generally better off with a mother and a father?
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https://theconversation.com/factcheck-are-children-better-off-with-a-mother-and-father-than-with-same-sex-parents-82313
It is true that having more than one parent is beneficial to children, but what is not true is the assumption that the gender of the parents is somehow important. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors took a joint effort to raise children, that is to say the kids were raised by the tribe as a whole rather than by just two parents. Our conception of marriage is completely artificial and not entirely natural.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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I do not know. Have you never heard of marriages involving sterile individuals, or marriages of old people who are not able to produce children? What makes you think that marriage is supposed to involve childbirth?
No, I do not agree with that. I believe that children are generally better off with better parents, regardless of their gender.
We do not live in history; we live now. If you want to rely on history, you could go all the way back to the times when marriages were arranged by parents, and the married individuals had no say in the matter. Hardly something to emulate today.
Oh, I do not care about marriage rights at all; I find the whole institution a pure formality. I am simply pointing out the flaws in your argument.
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****** The point is that people should stop saying that they are equal when that is obviously not the case.
Because they are human beings entitled to the same rights and privileges as others? Using your “logic” blacks should also have no rights because they are not “equal” to whites as their skin colour is different right?
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***** Homosexual "marriages" cannot produce children and they deprive children of a mother/father.
And?
***There is a difference there.
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https://www.livescience.com/17913-advantages-gay-parents.html
When you compare straight couples to single parent relationships, and the extrapolate that to include homosexual relationships you draw a false dichotomy. The evidence suggests that gay couples are actually better at raising children than heterosexual relationships!
You say the study is false but you would have to take a closer look is shorthand for: "You are wrong because I feel that you are wrong, but I don't know why"
Facts don't care about your feelings.
The village raises the children idea arises both from simple logic and observation of native tribes. At some point, people did not know that sex led to childbirth because that is learned knowledge. Therefore, a father would have no way of knowing if a child was his or not. This means that the traditional family structure is not the norm you may think it is.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-legal-in-every-state/
Marriage rights don't apply to animals ans inanimate objects because they are not citizens.
Both of these are irrelevant because homosexuals born in the US are citizens, and it doesn't matter if they are children in most states anyways.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Spot said: You seriously don't understand the relevance of the sterility argument?
Let me put this in other words...
There are two people who live together who have unprotected sex regularly. After several years of living like this, neither of them gets pregnant. So what can we conclude?
A ) They are a homosexual couple.
B ) They are a heterosexual couple, but at least one of them is sterile.
C ) Either of these things is possible.
You can not tell! So if the purpose of marriage is just to raise kids, then sterile couples should be barred from marriage.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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***** I do not believe in "marriage equality."
Again your subjective opinion
****This is specifically true for males.
Statistics also show that homosexuals are more likely to die early, be obese, use drugs, etc.
Nonsense
****It destroys the family unit which also hurts society.
Again another opinion based on nothing
****Homosexuals have way too many partners in their lifetime.
Accusations based on bigotry and hatred nothing else
. ****A gay relationship is nothing like a real marriage.
How so? What’s a “real marriage”?
**** An no, skin color has nothing to do with marriage.
But a black married to a White is “unequal” using your logic
**** Where do you think rights come from?
Thankfully not from you who wish to deny based on someone’s sexuality
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You are just making stuff up because I backed you into a corner and now you are getting defensive.
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Kids can't have there own children until after they get to a certain age either, your arguments are falling apart.
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Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
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ALL INDIVIDUALS ARE INHERENTLY FREE!
GOVERNMENTS ONLY TAKE RIGHTS AWAY!
If you disagree, I would be happy to have you as my slave.
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Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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"Again, do you know what happens to children in Africa when they are raised by a "village?" Long story short, it doesn't work."
You played yourself!
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
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The government does not give you or anyone rights, you can do whatever you want until a government comes by an says you can not!
F***ing Authoritarian!
Consider, if there was no government, what would prevent two people from marrying whoever they chose, even if that person is a the same sex as them?
The answer is nothing! Anyone can do as they can and do as they please until governments says they can not.
To the free world, authoritarian scum is an unforgivable enemy!
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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For example, "you have the right to remain silent" means that no one is allowed to force you to talk. What this means is that you will not be tortured for information. Nothing was preventing you from not talking if you decided not to. If you did not have the right to remain silent, then that would mean the cops could force you to talk.
Above you said:
"If the government does not give people rights then where do they come from? "
If you think they have a source, then clearly you miss the point of freedom entirely.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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You have not addressed any of my arguments. The "obsession" with sterile people is that they illustrate one of the flaws in your argument. There are also people that can have children, but choose not to. There are gays that can have children and do not, and gays that can have children and do. There are bisexual people. There are countless scenarios that you blatantly ignore that run against your narrative.
Once again: marriage is not about giving birth to children. I am not sure how much clearer I can make it. The marriage contract says absolutely nothing about children. If you are arguing against legalised homosexual marriage based on reproductive capabilities of various types of sex, then you are doing it wrong.
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1. Marriage (Man + woman ).
2. Civil Union ( Man + Woman).
3. Binivir ( Man + Man).
4. UnosMulier(Woman + woman).
An alleged homosexual man can be legally married with a woman.
An alleged lesbian woman can be legally married with a man.
Two alleged homosexual men can be witnessed as a BiniVir.
Two alleged lesbian women can be witnessed as UnosMulier.
A woman who choses a sperm from a medical facility can be pronounced in a civil union with the donator of the sperm.
A person who inseminates a human egg with sperm for conception can be legally declared an additional parent of the child created.
A homosexual who is bound legally by BiniVir can be legally bound to a woman segregate who donates human egg to produce a child in civil union.
A lesbian who is bound by UnosMulier can be legally bound to a man segregate who donates human sperm to produce a child in civil union.
A preamble of United state constitutional common defense to the general welfare.  Considerate: 57%  
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  Sentiment: Positive  
  Avg. Grade Level: 8.58  
  Sources: 0  
  Entity Sentiment Detection: Civil Union    alleged homosexual man   alleged lesbian woman   lesbian women  
  Relevant (Beta): 49%  
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