Theism touches on things most people have no answers for, Death, Life, and Consciousness.
Extending life, preventing death, events after death - no answers.
Our inner conversations about existance and purpose - no answers.
For these reasons, it is logical to study Theistic viewpoints.
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Why would I want to extend life? Events after death? “Events” to me will not happen after I’m dead the definition of death should explain this adequately
***Our inner conversations about existance and purpose - no answers.
Inner conversations regarding me is I’m born , I live , I die end off. Purpose? To enjoy my life and enjoy the ride
I’ve studied them and concluded there is zero evidence for a god or anything supernatural at all , not one shred of evidence has been put forward for such in the thousands of years since some genius came up with the greatest money making racket and controller of people of all time as in religion
Belief in a god is a faith based position which is believing something without evidence which proves its based mainly on indoctrination and nothing else
Whats your best god / afterlife proof?
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Theism does not and can not extend life, prevent death, or cause events after death. These are the realm of medicine and science.
Theism does not and can not answer our inner conversations about existence and purpose. These questions are the realm of philosophy.
When you assume there is some purpose to existence, you are setting yourself up for failure, because there is none unless you make it yourself.
The first stage of grief is denial, it is marked by magical thinking, hopeful rationalizations, and lies to ones self. Is there any doubt that religion is an institution designed to ensure no one gets past this first stage?
If you let go of the fear, there is only one way forward, and on the other side is absolute freedom. You are what you want to be, you become what you make yourself, and none of this is possible with a "divine purpose".
The purpose of religion is to call down the anxious masses, and the purpose of theism is to give authority to those who can not handle the freedom of meaninglessness.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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>>>Why would I want to extend life? Events after death? “Events” to me will not happen after I’m dead the definition of death should explain this adequately <<<
>>>What's your best god/afterlife proof?<<<
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Theism does hinder people, it keeps them from achieving their true potential or taking their lives seriously. Why would they need to when they have an eternal afterlife to sort everything out?
To be a theist is to throw your life away to delusion.
I am not saying that meaninglessness = freedom, what I am saying is that freedom can not exist with meaning.
Consider, if there is a "divine purpose" you don't get to decide what it is. Maybe the entire purpose of reality was to collect stamps, or to make cupcakes. Perhaps the purpose would be to sneeze as many times as possible, or simply to accelerate the heat death of the universe. That is in and of itself potentially more horrifying than the possibility of no objective meaning. That is what I mean when I say that theists can not handle the freedom of meaninglessness.
The answer to those questions is one that follows from actual truth, but most people would not consider these answers satisfying:
Why does life exist?
Because the conditions for life exist in this universe, so it was inevitable given the right circumstance and time. It just does for no reason.
Why does death exist?
Because entropy must increase, and eventually high entropy will eliminate the conditions for life to exist. It has to happen because of physics.
What is consciousness?
Consciousness is a property of the brain, a specific set of computational bound physical qualities emerging from neuronal interactions. We still don't know.
When theism answers these questions, they do so from ignorance. Theists assume they know the answer, when what they really have is wild speculation derived from wishful thinking, These beliefs which have evolved to better take advantage of humans and the human condition over the centuries, to be what humans would call a satisfying answer, but one devoid of objective truth.
This is what theism is. There are no answers there, only comforting lies.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Would you defend an anti-vaxer, who does not get their child vaccinated because they have a child who is afraid of needles?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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**** I believe you are talking about the concepts of life and death if you are referring otherwise:
Yes
****Please explain why do the cells in people's bodies cease to replicate?
It’s something I’ve never really thought about , and what is had to do with theism is beyond me
****So are you saying if there was a way to extend life you would reject it?
Sure , if I was 99 years old and all my family and friends were dead it would be a mercy to end it
****If you were terminally ill, but the doctor had a way to return you to health to extend your life, you are telling me you would reject it?
If my life was terrible yes otherwise no , but that’s not your point is it?
****I believe you are referring to the acceptance of what will occur during your life span, in case you are not referring to that:
Yes that’s what I’m saying , we know of no other life
****Why is that the framework of human existence?
Because it’s based on the best evidence we have all else is based on nothing but idle speculation
****If there is no purpose in life,
But there is for me anyway as I clearly stated
****then why can we not change our framework?
I don’t follow Sand?
****I understand your viewpoint, nevertheless, both atheists and theists point to the same evidence for their conclusions.
You may have to explain that remark. My conclusions are based on the available evidence I cannot say 100 percent there is no afterlife or indeed a god the burden of proof is with the theist because he /she is making the positive claim yet cannot prove such if they could I would be a believer
****I appreciate your consistent stand on this topic.
Thank you , I appreciate your enquiring mind and your ability to ask excellent questions on such topics
****The Bible doesn't define faith as belief, only dictionaries do, which came out way after the Bible.
Well as a former Catholic I used to refer to Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for conviction of things not seen
Pretty much sums it up “hope “ and conviction of “things not seen”
****The fact that DNA can be used to clone someone.
That does not prove a god
****I think eventually they will discover a way to restore all memory.
This to me is indicating how it is possible to restore life after death.
But that would be down to humans and not a god
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Anti-vaxxers are often portrayed as being belligerent, gullible, and , but I think the reality is much simpler:
Anti-vaxxers have children who do not like needles.
They want to do good by their children, as this is part of the natural bond between parent and child, when the child is afraid of needles the parent acts to remove this source of distress from the child's life.
What happens next is the parent goes to the internet and finds articles, videos, blogs, and other pseudo-science that support the claim.
This information becomes the belief, and the front for the parent's rebellion against reality.
Thus parents who choose not to get their children vaccinated are grieving over their instinct to protect their children, and as a result do exactly the opposite of the thing that is in the child's and everyone else's best interest.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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There is no need for a god, theistic or deistic, although I have a lot less arguments against deism, which I think, while still fundamentally unnecessary, is nonetheless a viable theory...
If all theists became deists, the world would be a much better place to live in...
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Anti-vaxxers are as much a belief as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, white supremacy, flat earth society, Scientology, or lizard people conspiracy.
Consider how that line of thought could be reexamined with theists instead of anti-vaxxers. This is the point I am making.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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How does your love of Jesus adds to, or informs, this debate about theism? Not sure I understand what you're implying, can you elaborate?
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I'm not sure where I put words in your mouth.
Theism is not about just Jesus, it also is about Muhammad, Buddha, Vishnu, Cthulhu, and so many others. Theism is the belief in a god or gods.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Would you defend a cult leader, who believes that self-mutilation or flagellation is required for salvation?
(some actual cults still do this and the Catholic church practiced it in the past)
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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“There are honest doubters and dishonest doubters. An honest doubter is willing to search out the truth and live by the results; a dishonest doubter doesn’t want to know the truth. He can’t find God for the same reason a thief can’t find a policeman.” Adrian Rogers
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Theism is the concept, Jesus, Thor, Zeus and others are specific models/brands of theism... Do you understand the difference? Maybe I'm not good at explaining, that is why I'm asking if you get what I'm saying here...
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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If you don't want to answer the question, that is your choice, however it would seem to support my thesis that belief is tied to grief, and in the case of religion specifically the grieving over reality, and in particular over death and the absence of purpose.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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When I do not know/understand something, I prefer to say that I do not know/understand something and try to look for valid answers, as opposed to coming up with any answer I can think of and think the matter resolved. When you did not know how to drive a car, did you take lessons to learn how to do it, or did you just say to comfort yourself, "The god has a plan for me, and it cannot be for me to die in a car accident, so I should be able to drive a car somehow"? Random comforting answers are generally useless when it comes to practical matters, and you have to instead put in some work to find real answers and learn something valuable. They can support you temporarily if, for example, you are at a very low point in your life and just need someone to tell you what you want to hear to gain the strength to move on - but they are unlikely to lead to significant long-term benefits, and you need to put in some real effort for that.
Some of the most profound changes I had in my life occurred at those points when I realised that I was doing something wrong systematically and said, "This ends now. I am changing my behavior, however hard and painful it is." Not when someone told me, "You are doing fine, mate, just do not worry about anything". I am happy for any support, but I prefer to hear real, practical advice containing useful tangible information, as opposed to random fluff to make me feel more comfortable.
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Theism does not and can not extend life, prevent death, or cause events after death. These are the realm of medicine and science.
Theism does not and can not answer our inner conversations about existence and purpose. These questions are the realm of philosophy.
When you assume there is some purpose to existence, you are setting yourself up for failure, because there is none unless you make it yourself.
The first stage of grief is denial, it is marked by magical thinking, hopeful rationalizations, and lies to ones self. Is there any doubt that religion is an institution designed to ensure no one gets past this first stage?
If you let go of the fear, there is only one way forward, and on the other side is absolute freedom. You are what you want to be, you become what you make yourself, and none of this is possible with a "divine purpose".
The purpose of religion is to call down the anxious masses, and the purpose of theism is to give authority to those who can not handle the freedom of a meaningless existence.
To believe in a god and an afterlife is to grieve. That is what I have to say about theism.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Do you even know he is a "he"?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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http://www.econdolence.com/learn/articles/first-stage-of-grief-denial/
Tell me, can you imagine a world which things happen for no reason in particular, where everything is random and chaotic, where there is no good or evil to speak of, only random absurdity?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Why won't you discus those? Theism applies to them too.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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I would like to correct a slight misconception in your overall very sound reasoning: the law of entropy increase does not directly suggest that eventually all life will be gone. Entropy increase is a purely statistical phenomenon; it is not some hard physics law and does not strictly hold in relatively small confined systems. In principle, nothing prevents there being, say, a solar system constantly recreating itself in a small region of the Universe, leading to an endless cycle of life appearance and disappearance.
The actual reason we believe nowadays that one day the Universe will be void of life or any other macroscopic structures is that the Universe expands, and that expansion accelerates; current models predict that at some point, very-very far into the future, the expansion will become so rapid, that atoms will no longer be held together by molecular forces, and everything will be literally ripped apart. However, we still do not quite understand why the Universe expands, or how the rate of that expansion changes with time; it is quite possible that the rate flattens out at some point, or even becomes negative, and then there is no telling whether macroscopic structures in the Universe will ever be purged.
There is also an older argument regarding the "ultraviolet catastrophe" according to which all matter will eventually be converted into pure radiation. However, particle physics contradicts that, as, first, radiation can be converted into matter spontaneously (and will do so repeatedly to maintain the equilibrium between the amount of radiation and matter), and second, radiation does not always annihilate matter and can instead merely decrease its energy temporarily.
The law of entropy itself, as I want to emphasize here, is a statistical phenomenon, not a hard physics law, and it has its limitations. If you have a box with two sections and start with, say, 100 molecules in one section and 0 in another section, then after a certain period of time the molecules will become fairly equally distributed between these sections - at that point the entropy of the system will be maximized, and there will be no entropy increase to be had. And while on the scale of the Universe it is unlikely that entropy will ever be maximized in a way preserving some macroscopic structure (in this simplified case, for example, the box itself is preserved), it could very well flatten out at some point, increasing progressively slower and slower, leading to something akin to a converging series that does not sum up to infinity.
This is a fascinating topic, both from the philosophical and physical perspective.
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Belief in god is a very pessimistic world view, so I might ask you the same question. Obviously a balance is needed because pessimism sometimes leads to greater work being done, for example an optimistic doctor might decide that everything was going to be alright whereas a pessimistic doctor might double check some things. There is such a thing as too optimistic, and such a thing as being too pessimistic. Both are examples of delusion, and in any case pulling someone out of the extreme is beneficial.
The answer is yes. It doesn't matter if it is given or assumed, either way by taking an option and making choices you reduce your freedom. You can not change past decisions. However, if there is some given objective purpose, there is no freedom whatsoever.
Read what I wrote about anti-vaxxers, that should give you a clue.
Christians are affably miserable aren't they? I don't understand why people don't just get over it instead of living in denial of reality.
You are going to die and there is nothing after that, you are not here for any purpose unless you make one for yourself. The problem is that religion literally comes knocking at your door to try and sell you their "purpose" which is just a bunch of made up beliefs. The atheist is not so weak of constitution that they should need such lies to get out of bed in the morning.
That's not my take on it, it's statistical truth. Even if we somehow find a way to magically reverse entropy through some kind of clark-tech the likes of which might not even be possible, life will still eventually cease to exist, and the universe will become a dark and desolate place, where all energy is equally distributed. Perfect equality for all things everywhere.
It's possible that cupcakes are the center of reality or everything is made out of potatoes.
"could" is not really a useful term. Think about all the infinite possibilities that "could be determined" to govern the universe. Theism just picks some at random that made people feel good about themselves and then slaps a "truth" sticker on it with no evidence or validation. This is the problem with theism and why it is completely irrelevant, it just isn't useful when trying to determine actual truth, and I wish theists would stop wrongly labeling it as such, or else we are going to have to invent a new word.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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However, that very same mechanism guarantees that at some point, all life will cease to exist for exactly the same reason. Sooner or latter, with no energy differential with which to perform life functions everything will die.
Even if in some corner of the universe an entire solar system capable of supporting life just happens to form, which despite the improbability continuously replenishes with fresh resources, it too will die eventually given enough time.
While there is nothing that says you can't roll two dice to always get snake eyes, sooner or latter you will get 7 and you will be out of luck.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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"Deuteronomy 18:18-20 "I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. It shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die."
What says they are not right, and Islam is not the inspired word of god, as even the bible suggests?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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