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1) Their would be too much radiation if the sun was 3,000 to 5,000 miles away. This may not have spurred human life and many not support human life.
2) The solar system has been mapped or partially mapped.
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The solar system has been mapped? What you think is space is just the firmament. Simple as that. "There would be too much radiation". I just proved the sun is not only small, but close. What more do you need?
Would you like to address these images instead of dismissing them as false because they have text in them (which you are dismissing as solely as memes, strawman and cherry picking fallacy). Otherwise you may continue with your appeal to the stone that you are adding to the list.
Wake said:
We aren't even discussing NASA photos nor 9/11 (double red herring fallacy), but those have been debunked. NASA has admitted several times to faking images of the Earth, yet they won't admit that they faked the moon landings. However, there is proof of that too.
The moon landings
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/about/people/RSimmon.html "The last time anyone took a real photo of Earth"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit
https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
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The other sets of pictures are of crepuscular rays that appear to converge just beyond the clouds, thus "proving" the sun is very near. This is not the case, however. First, this is because because crepuscular rays are actually parallel (look it up) and never converge. It just looks like they do because the beginnings are farther away. You can see this effect on railroad tracks, where the rails appear to converge in the distance.
Secondly, the distance indicated by the rays (assuming they are parallel) are not consistent with the distance claimed by the flat earthers. The distance would be even <1 mile.
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit
https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
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The railroad tracks in the first picture, we know are parallel. The obvious difference is that the lines are receding from the observer, unlike the second set of lines, the right side going straight down, the lines on the left going away from the point of entry in the clouds. So that argument could be considered somewhat valid if we were to post an image such as this:
We know for sure that the sun isn't just on the other side of the trees. We can see this difference in this simple experiment that anyone can perform with items from around the house.
An observer standing at the ground level of the right picture (assuming he were about 2 inches tall) would see receding parallel lines.
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit
https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
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