How Deep Is AlJazeera's Antisemitism?

Nomenclature

Argument Topic: You're absolutely Ridiculous

How Deep Is AlJazeera's Antisemitism?

How about you start with providing some credible evidence that Al Jazeera hates Jews. 

You appear to have only one argument in your entire arsenal: agree with everything I say or you hate Jews. 

You're a buffoon.

John_C_87

@JulesKorngold
Where to start?

• A producer at has glorified a terrorist, demonized Israel and spread a conspiracy theory on social media. On Sept. 8, 2013, he tweeted: "REPORT: Hitler may not have authorized systemic murder of Jews during Holocaust."
  

Hitler does not need to be the authorized agent ordering systemic murder of Jews during WW II / Holocaust. Plausible denial does not obstruct the united states of law created by a person’s personal constitution. If you have trouble in understanding why this is please feel free to ask for a more complete explanation in describing a link toward the general welfare of established justice.

John_C_87

@JulesKorngold

To a Western audience, Al Jazeera tries to appear more moderate, while in Arabic they show their true face and their actual motivations.

A lot of this is a United States Constitutional argument over the liberty taken to conduct Espionage, Sabotage, or legislated laws that describing terrorism as a crime. Forms of filed grievance, just who has final say how a grievance is to be filed in front of a court process, a lawyer, a judge, the threat of pending possible malpractice of law, public vote, and finally United States Constitutional right. Can you rephrase the question a little so I can answer focus on a smaller easier to understand rebuttal?

Dee

@Nomenclature

Hi Nom , also if you don't agree he will go running to the man to squeal yet again.

Dee

For me I think the more interesting question is .....Should one accept the word of a plastic Jew who admits the enjoyment he gets from watching Palestinians getting blown to bits .......

JulesKorngold 464 Pts   -  January 31

Argument Topic: You're Boring Me

@Nomenclature 

I'm gonna watch Israel bomb Gaza on the news.  Bye.

It also most interesting that MineSub and Excon refuse to condemn him and in fact totally support him.

MayCaesar

I think that it is important to use the precise words whenever making an argument and avoid using catchy terms that have a different meaning from the public perception of them.

Criticism of Israel or Israeli government or Israeli population does not in itself constitute anti-semitism: the latter explicitly refers to the negative view on the Jewish people as such. One can, for instance, harbor a deep hatred for the Israeli population, yet have nothing against Jews in general and harbor no negative feelings for, say, the Australian Jews.

This reminds me of the conversation I once had with my (then) friend who was a classic social justice warrior. I told her that, in my view, Obama was one of the worst US presidents. She immediately said, "Of course you would say that: he is, after all, black". Quite ironically, the one accusing me of racism was the only one who cared about the former president's race... anyway, I suggest that you refrain from jumping to conclusions with respect to someone's motivations based on their expressed views. People can have particular views for a large variety of reasons, and there is a world of difference between thinking something about someone who HAPPENS to belong to group X, and thinking that about him BECAUSE he belongs to group X.

I do not know what groups you belong to, Jules, but rest assured that my criticism of your views on free speech has nothing to do with that belonging.

Finally, regarding Al Jazeera, it actually is fairly reasonable when it comes to the topics unrelated to Israel or the Muslim world. It is, of course, a hardcore propaganda machine when it comes to these topics. Kind of like Ben Shapiro who is quite reasonable in most cases, but is completely off the rails when it comes to religion.

Nomenclature

@MayCaesar

Criticism of Israel or Israeli government or Israeli population does not in itself constitute anti-semitism

Of course, but the ultra fanatical Israeli right has been using this same fallacy for decades as a means to shut down criticism and opposition. "Agree with us or you hate Jews" has become almost a mantra, and it has proven highly effective in scaring away politicians and pundits from making any serious effort at critiquing the Israeli apartheid state. So effective in fact, that even the American right adopted it during the W. Bush years, when it was, "You're either with us or with the terrorists" and/or "Agree with us or you hate America/freedom". 

Unfortunately, the west has quite a poor record when it comes to cooperating with violent, aggressive, racist regimes. It turned a blind eye to the South African apartheid state for decades, for many of the same reasons it today turns a blind eye to the atrocities committed by the Israeli military. Both were viewed as strategically important allies.

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: My Groups

@MayCaesar said:  I do not know what groups you belong to, Jules

• Chess club
• Trivia team
• Senior center participant
• High school reunion subcommittee

What groups do you belong to?

Pepsiguy

Argument Topic: Al Jazeera

Islam is inherently anti semitic.

Al-Baqara (The Cow) 2:62
Al-Jumu'ah (Friday) 62:6
At-Tauba (The Repentance) 9:30

Al-An'am (The Cattle) 6:146

Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) 5:82

Al-Baqara (The Cow) 2:135