Is the good book telling believers to be quiet?

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

RickeyHoltsclaw

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RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

just_sayin

@RickeyHoltsclaw

In your hearts, set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect.

— 1 Peter 3:15

Make the most of every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.

— Colossians 4:5-6

A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

— Proverbs 15:1

Do you think your approach shows gentleness, respect, and grace?  

RickeyHoltsclaw

@just_sayin ; I don't care...I'm arguing with a demon. Mind your own business.

Factfinder

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

just_sayin

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@just_sayin ; I don't care...I'm arguing with a demon. Mind your own business.

But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” - Jude 1:8

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@just_sayin ;  Hey....go away...you do you, I'll do me....mind your own business. Please.

Factfinder

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

MayCaesar

I think the Bible encourages its followers to err on the safe side. So if you feel that there is a good chance that what you are about to say may be false, then you better say nothing than risk saying a falsehood.

Christians tend to not follow this advice, constantly making very strong claims about things based on very scarce evidence. Interestingly, scientists follow this direction much closer, where by default they assume every hypothesis to be false, and they have to go far out of their way to demonstrate otherwise before they even consider a hypothesis "plausible".

My personal take is, this is a terrible advice. There definitely are cases where you want to err on the safe side: when you cannot calculate the projected trajectory of a rocket to the lunar orbit with 1% precision, you better not launch it, as even a small error will render the mission failed. In most cases, however, I am inclined to follow the "Better beg forgiveness than ask permission" advice. Life is about exploration, and exploration requires taking risks. You are going to take action with unclear outcome, sometimes with high probability of highly negative outcome - and that is the only way to get anywhere in life.
If there is a dream job for you, but the competition for it is 10,000 to 1, then you better be sure that you apply for it. Sure, you risk investing a lot of time into this and getting nowhere - but even if you get nowhere, you will learn a lot in the process. Plus you will condition yourself to go after your dreams no matter how unlikely success is, a habit which will serve you well in life. The only way to get absolutely nothing out of this opportunity is to do nothing.

There is some evidence that these things are biologically preconditioned: some people are just physiologically predisposed to higher risk-taking than others. Some people are intrinsically uncomfortable with even small degrees of risk and are inclined to play it extremely safe, valuing tiny incremental gains over massive gains at the expense of possibility of massive losses - others are willing to risk losing everything if it means that they may get a lot in the process, and they trust themselves to figure things out even if they do lose everything.
But even if so, I do not think that anyone is going to lose by learning to take more risks.

Christianity appears to me to be a religion for those who want to play it extremely safe and to follow a strict moral code. You basically build your entire life around the idea of following the Commandments and making as few mistakes ("sins") as possible. Perhaps that works temperamentally for some people, but as a general advice it is awful.

Barnardot

@Factfinder I think that were got to get the idea of Good Book out of our vocabularies when were talking about the Bible because it has never been a good book no matter which way you look at it. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

Factfinder

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

But whether you assume the light on the first day or not was sun and stars, it still says the earth existed first, let's us believe water covered the planet. ...dark and void...spirit hovered above the waters... Then god said let there be light. Either way the narrative is false. The stars and the universe are about 8 billion years older than the earth. Science has advanced enough that we know this. That's why when you look up at night a lot of stars you see don't exist. We just see the light still from when they did exist because it takes so long for their light to reach us. So the bible confuses creation in a day when it actually took billions of years. Not only that but the bible says the earth existed before the stars, it's wrong on that account as well. So touting the biblical narrative doesn't make since. I think proverbs 17:28 comes into play here.

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

But whether you assume the light on the first day or not was sun and stars, it still says the earth existed first, let's us believe water covered the planet. ...dark and void...spirit hovered above the waters... Then god said let there be light. Either way the narrative is false. The stars and the universe are about 8 billion years older than the earth. Science has advanced enough that we know this. That's why when you look up at night a lot of stars you see don't exist. We just see the light still from when they did exist because it takes so long for their light to reach us. So the bible confuses creation in a day when it actually took billions of years. Not only that but the bible says the earth existed before the stars, it's wrong on that account as well. So touting the biblical narrative doesn't make since. I think proverbs 17:28 comes into play here.

@Factfinder ;  Please type in my @rickeyholtsclaw when you correspond with me...simply quoting me and entering it does not address the rebuttal to me but is a general notification that you've commented on a topoc...I don't usually check general comments as I'm not interested in general atheistic nonsense.

1) The Genesis Narrative tells us that Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth...I see a simultaneous creation there.

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 (ESV)

There is no falsity in the narrative...this is desperation for justification for your path to Hell in unbelief.

The Heavens and the Earth are just over 6000-years old...my Lord created a very mature Heaven, Earth, Adam, Eve...His eschatological plan is a "quick work" upon the Earth not a protracted time period for you to justify Darwin's theory. C-14 was nullified with The Flood.

All was created mature and the attributes of starlight and sunlight were in place at Creation.

For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”  Romans 8:28

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

But whether you assume the light on the first day or not was sun and stars, it still says the earth existed first, let's us believe water covered the planet. ...dark and void...spirit hovered above the waters... Then god said let there be light. Either way the narrative is false. The stars and the universe are about 8 billion years older than the earth. Science has advanced enough that we know this. That's why when you look up at night a lot of stars you see don't exist. We just see the light still from when they did exist because it takes so long for their light to reach us. So the bible confuses creation in a day when it actually took billions of years. Not only that but the bible says the earth existed before the stars, it's wrong on that account as well. So touting the biblical narrative doesn't make since. I think proverbs 17:28 comes into play here.

@Factfinder ;  Please type in my @rickeyholtsclaw when you correspond with me...simply quoting me and entering it does not address the rebuttal to me but is a general notification that you've commented on a topoc...I don't usually check general comments as I'm not interested in general atheistic nonsense.

1) The Genesis Narrative tells us that Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth...I see a simultaneous creation there.

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 (ESV)

There is no falsity in the narrative...this is desperation for justification for your path to Hell in unbelief.

The Heavens and the Earth are just over 6000-years old...my Lord created a very mature Heaven, Earth, Adam, Eve...His eschatological plan is a "quick work" upon the Earth not a protracted time period for you to justify Darwin's theory. C-14 was nullified with The Flood.

All was created mature and the attributes of starlight and sunlight were in place at Creation.

For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”  Romans 8:28

Darwin's theory was evolutionary biology. It doesn't address the cosmos. Astro physics and quantum physics debunks the biblical narrative. Archeology does as well. How is it we have artifacts made by humans 30-40 thousands of years old? Or older? It's nonsense to hate science because you don't get it or it makes your faith queasy. So every discipline of science is wrong because ricky's little book says so? Proverbs 17:28 applies here. Oh yeah, Darwin's theory debunks it as well. 

https://www.oldest.org/culture/artifacts/

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

But whether you assume the light on the first day or not was sun and stars, it still says the earth existed first, let's us believe water covered the planet. ...dark and void...spirit hovered above the waters... Then god said let there be light. Either way the narrative is false. The stars and the universe are about 8 billion years older than the earth. Science has advanced enough that we know this. That's why when you look up at night a lot of stars you see don't exist. We just see the light still from when they did exist because it takes so long for their light to reach us. So the bible confuses creation in a day when it actually took billions of years. Not only that but the bible says the earth existed before the stars, it's wrong on that account as well. So touting the biblical narrative doesn't make since. I think proverbs 17:28 comes into play here.

@Factfinder ;  Please type in my @rickeyholtsclaw when you correspond with me...simply quoting me and entering it does not address the rebuttal to me but is a general notification that you've commented on a topoc...I don't usually check general comments as I'm not interested in general atheistic nonsense.

1) The Genesis Narrative tells us that Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth...I see a simultaneous creation there.

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 (ESV)

There is no falsity in the narrative...this is desperation for justification for your path to Hell in unbelief.

The Heavens and the Earth are just over 6000-years old...my Lord created a very mature Heaven, Earth, Adam, Eve...His eschatological plan is a "quick work" upon the Earth not a protracted time period for you to justify Darwin's theory. C-14 was nullified with The Flood.

All was created mature and the attributes of starlight and sunlight were in place at Creation.

For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”  Romans 8:28

Darwin's theory was evolutionary biology. It doesn't address the cosmos. Astro physics and quantum physics debunks the biblical narrative. Archeology does as well. How is it we have artifacts made by humans 30-40 thousands of years old? Or older? It's nonsense to hate science because you don't get it or it makes your faith queasy. So every discipline of science is wrong because ricky's little book says so? Proverbs 17:28 applies here. Oh yeah, Darwin's theory debunks it as well. 

https://www.oldest.org/culture/artifacts/

@Factfinder ;

1) No one has debunked the Genesis Narrative. Man does not know the work of our Creator nor can they explain the most basic knowledge of how matter is present; the origin of the complex human genome...man knows very little..only that which our Creator divulges. 

2) Archeology proves NOTHING...C-14 is wholly inaccurate...I see fossil digs and comparisons when various ages emanate from side by side fossils with astounding estimates of age...it's all a ruse for the fool.

3) Darwin debunks nothing...it was "theory" that he, himself, said if he knew same would be abused the way it has by secular humanists he would have never published it.

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

But whether you assume the light on the first day or not was sun and stars, it still says the earth existed first, let's us believe water covered the planet. ...dark and void...spirit hovered above the waters... Then god said let there be light. Either way the narrative is false. The stars and the universe are about 8 billion years older than the earth. Science has advanced enough that we know this. That's why when you look up at night a lot of stars you see don't exist. We just see the light still from when they did exist because it takes so long for their light to reach us. So the bible confuses creation in a day when it actually took billions of years. Not only that but the bible says the earth existed before the stars, it's wrong on that account as well. So touting the biblical narrative doesn't make since. I think proverbs 17:28 comes into play here.

@Factfinder ;  Please type in my @rickeyholtsclaw when you correspond with me...simply quoting me and entering it does not address the rebuttal to me but is a general notification that you've commented on a topoc...I don't usually check general comments as I'm not interested in general atheistic nonsense.

1) The Genesis Narrative tells us that Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth...I see a simultaneous creation there.

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 (ESV)

There is no falsity in the narrative...this is desperation for justification for your path to Hell in unbelief.

The Heavens and the Earth are just over 6000-years old...my Lord created a very mature Heaven, Earth, Adam, Eve...His eschatological plan is a "quick work" upon the Earth not a protracted time period for you to justify Darwin's theory. C-14 was nullified with The Flood.

All was created mature and the attributes of starlight and sunlight were in place at Creation.

For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”  Romans 8:28

Darwin's theory was evolutionary biology. It doesn't address the cosmos. Astro physics and quantum physics debunks the biblical narrative. Archeology does as well. How is it we have artifacts made by humans 30-40 thousands of years old? Or older? It's nonsense to hate science because you don't get it or it makes your faith queasy. So every discipline of science is wrong because ricky's little book says so? Proverbs 17:28 applies here. Oh yeah, Darwin's theory debunks it as well. 

https://www.oldest.org/culture/artifacts/

@Factfinder ;

1) No one has debunked the Genesis Narrative. Man does not know the work of our Creator nor can they explain the most basic knowledge of how matter is present; the origin of the complex human genome...man knows very little..only that which our Creator divulges. 

2) Archeology proves NOTHING...C-14 is wholly inaccurate...I see fossil digs and comparisons when various ages emanate from side by side fossils with astounding estimates of age...it's all a ruse for the fool.

3) Darwin debunks nothing...it was "theory" that he, himself, said if he knew same would be abused the way it has by secular humanists he would have never published it.

Is your fairy god daddy in the room with you now ricky? Do you hear voices? Do you wish you had intellect and understanding where science is concerned? 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@Factfinder ; The Scriptures convey to you the only Truth, the only eschatological Truth, the only Truth concerning creation and salvation that you will find in this temporary life constrained by Time and physics and you reject the Scriptures at your own hurt and destruction; this, because you have chosen to reject your Creator's will for your life and serve Satan and ultimately suffer a fate similar to his in Hell...why? (Revelation 20:10-15) Because you love your sin more than Truth and our Creator's love for you (Romans 1:18-32).

See now babbling doesn't support your position. Of course your book wants you to be 'trustworthy' that's a heck of a lot easier to manipulate than someone being skeptical. Discern this: did god create plants before the sun? Did it create the earth before the stars?

@Factfinder ;  No "babble" atheist...just Truth...something that the Atheist coward is afraid to confront. No, Elohim created the plant life on Day-3 and photosynthesis was readily available on Day-1 as the Great Light and the Lesser Light were created on Day-1 and given their function and purpose on Day-4. 

Ah but you don't know for sure the light in day one is the same as day four. It doesn't state that it is. It states: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." So logically one light was to help god see, the other is what allowed plant life, only plant life already existed in day 3. Without the sun and stars, and we know that's is impossible. 

Now do you care to address the stars before the earth situation?

@Factfinder ;  

1) Yes, I do..Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth on Day-1...the Heavens projected LIGHT...and that light is defined and given purpose on Day-4.

In v. 14 God does not say, Let there be lights . . . to separate, as if there were no lights before this command and afterward the lights were created. Rather the Hebrew text reads, And God said, ‘Let the lights in the expanse of the sky separate.’ In other words . . . God’s command assumes the lights were already in the expanse and that in response to his command they were given a purpose, to separate the day from the night and to mark seasons and days and years.. . . It suggests that the author did not understand his account of the fourth day as the creation of lights; but, on the contrary, the narrative assumes that the heavenly lights had already been created in the beginning (John H. Sailhamer, Expositors Bible Commentary, Vol. 2, Frank E. Gaebelein General Editor, Grand Rapids Mi: Zondervan, 1990, p. 34).

2) Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24), omnipotent and omnipresent...He does not require light to see.

3) Light was readily available on Day-1 and plant life easily exists void light for a day if your argument was true...

4) Stars were created with the Heavens on Day-1.

What makes you say the stars were created on the 1rst day? According to scripture, god created light (not stars) on day one that divided the darkness. It wasn't till the 4th day god created the stars according to your book. 

 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

@Factfinder ; v.16 shows that the lights were already in the Heavens and on Day-4 they were given purpose relevant to day-night-Time-seasons. This same scenario manifests itself in Genesis 2 where many spiritually dead atheists believe Genesis 2 is a second account or alternative creation narrative when Genesis 2 is a singular focus upon Day-6...the same is relevant concerning Day-4. The Lights were present on Day-1 as the Light was created and separated from the darkness...these lights only required definition relevant to their purpose for being...that "definition" is provided on Day-4

Narrative,

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

3 And God said, >>>“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

........ The Sun is the focus for "Day" and the Moon for "Night"...these were present on Day-1 as were the stars yet Elohim explains their reasoning and purpose on Day-4.

 

But whether you assume the light on the first day or not was sun and stars, it still says the earth existed first, let's us believe water covered the planet. ...dark and void...spirit hovered above the waters... Then god said let there be light. Either way the narrative is false. The stars and the universe are about 8 billion years older than the earth. Science has advanced enough that we know this. That's why when you look up at night a lot of stars you see don't exist. We just see the light still from when they did exist because it takes so long for their light to reach us. So the bible confuses creation in a day when it actually took billions of years. Not only that but the bible says the earth existed before the stars, it's wrong on that account as well. So touting the biblical narrative doesn't make since. I think proverbs 17:28 comes into play here.

@Factfinder ;  Please type in my @rickeyholtsclaw when you correspond with me...simply quoting me and entering it does not address the rebuttal to me but is a general notification that you've commented on a topoc...I don't usually check general comments as I'm not interested in general atheistic nonsense.

1) The Genesis Narrative tells us that Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth...I see a simultaneous creation there.

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 (ESV)

There is no falsity in the narrative...this is desperation for justification for your path to Hell in unbelief.

The Heavens and the Earth are just over 6000-years old...my Lord created a very mature Heaven, Earth, Adam, Eve...His eschatological plan is a "quick work" upon the Earth not a protracted time period for you to justify Darwin's theory. C-14 was nullified with The Flood.

All was created mature and the attributes of starlight and sunlight were in place at Creation.

For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”  Romans 8:28

Darwin's theory was evolutionary biology. It doesn't address the cosmos. Astro physics and quantum physics debunks the biblical narrative. Archeology does as well. How is it we have artifacts made by humans 30-40 thousands of years old? Or older? It's nonsense to hate science because you don't get it or it makes your faith queasy. So every discipline of science is wrong because ricky's little book says so? Proverbs 17:28 applies here. Oh yeah, Darwin's theory debunks it as well. 

https://www.oldest.org/culture/artifacts/

@Factfinder ;

1) No one has debunked the Genesis Narrative. Man does not know the work of our Creator nor can they explain the most basic knowledge of how matter is present; the origin of the complex human genome...man knows very little..only that which our Creator divulges. 

2) Archeology proves NOTHING...C-14 is wholly inaccurate...I see fossil digs and comparisons when various ages emanate from side by side fossils with astounding estimates of age...it's all a ruse for the fool.

3) Darwin debunks nothing...it was "theory" that he, himself, said if he knew same would be abused the way it has by secular humanists he would have never published it.

Is your fairy god daddy in the room with you now ricky? Do you hear voices? Do you wish you had intellect and understanding where science is concerned? 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

Factfinder

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Factfinder

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

Factfinder

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

I do not share your ideology, that's an out right lie. Your book claims falsehoods as truths despite facts, logic and reality soundly disproving it. Why would you think I would cling to your mythical fairy land book's ideology? Proverbs 17:28 commands you not to engage people smarter than you. That's because it knows its lies that it wants you to mindless spew repeatedly has no place in intelligent, reality based conversations. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

I do not share your ideology, that's an out right lie. Your book claims falsehoods as truths despite facts, logic and reality soundly disproving it. Why would you think I would cling to your mythical fairy land book's ideology? Proverbs 17:28 commands you not to engage people smarter than you. That's because it knows its lies that it wants you to mindless spew repeatedly has no place in intelligent, reality based conversations. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  

1) Prove the Bible wrong...prove these falsehoods.

2) You can't honor Elohim and His divine words because you serve the Devil in your sin and unbelief.

3) The "fool" is the one who rejects the reality of Elohim (Psalm 14:1).

Factfinder

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

I do not share your ideology, that's an out right lie. Your book claims falsehoods as truths despite facts, logic and reality soundly disproving it. Why would you think I would cling to your mythical fairy land book's ideology? Proverbs 17:28 commands you not to engage people smarter than you. That's because it knows its lies that it wants you to mindless spew repeatedly has no place in intelligent, reality based conversations. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  

1) Prove the Bible wrong...prove these falsehoods.

2) You can't honor Elohim and His divine words because you serve the Devil in your sin and unbelief.

3) The "fool" is the one who rejects the reality of Elohim (Psalm 14:1).

I did. Your mindless indoctrination doesn't allow for scientific fact thus preventing you from comprehending reality so you buried your head in the sand. If your fairy god elf is omniscient why didn't educate you as to the facts? Oh yeah, it told you to avoid intelligence and parrot pseudo truths from it's fallible word.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

I do not share your ideology, that's an out right lie. Your book claims falsehoods as truths despite facts, logic and reality soundly disproving it. Why would you think I would cling to your mythical fairy land book's ideology? Proverbs 17:28 commands you not to engage people smarter than you. That's because it knows its lies that it wants you to mindless spew repeatedly has no place in intelligent, reality based conversations. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  

1) Prove the Bible wrong...prove these falsehoods.

2) You can't honor Elohim and His divine words because you serve the Devil in your sin and unbelief.

3) The "fool" is the one who rejects the reality of Elohim (Psalm 14:1).

I did. Your mindless indoctrination doesn't allow for scientific fact thus preventing you from comprehending reality so you buried your head in the sand. If your fairy god elf is omniscient why didn't educate you as to the facts? Oh yeah, it told you to avoid intelligence and parrot pseudo truths from it's fallible word.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  I've been through the "science" up and through a Masters Degree....it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview.

You would do well to adhere to the Proverbs.

Factfinder

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

I do not share your ideology, that's an out right lie. Your book claims falsehoods as truths despite facts, logic and reality soundly disproving it. Why would you think I would cling to your mythical fairy land book's ideology? Proverbs 17:28 commands you not to engage people smarter than you. That's because it knows its lies that it wants you to mindless spew repeatedly has no place in intelligent, reality based conversations. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  

1) Prove the Bible wrong...prove these falsehoods.

2) You can't honor Elohim and His divine words because you serve the Devil in your sin and unbelief.

3) The "fool" is the one who rejects the reality of Elohim (Psalm 14:1).

I did. Your mindless indoctrination doesn't allow for scientific fact thus preventing you from comprehending reality so you buried your head in the sand. If your fairy god elf is omniscient why didn't educate you as to the facts? Oh yeah, it told you to avoid intelligence and parrot pseudo truths from it's fallible word.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  I've been through the "science" up and through a Masters Degree....it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview.

You would do well to adhere to the Proverbs.

"Through the science" ha,ha,ha liberal arts? theology? Those useless degrees don't count, especially in real academics.  Anything related to something that actually exists?

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

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@RickeyHoltsclaw

I live by the indwelling Holy Spirit who guides me, teaches me, loves me...resides within me...your "science" is prejudiced by atheism and secular humanism which funds it and teaches our children the absurdity of evolution which morphs them into godless atheists like yourself...absolutely U-s-e-l-e-s-s human beings. Hell is most deserving.

So you do hear voices. And all you had to do to get this unholy 'indwelling' was sacrifice your brain, hmm interesting. 

@Factfinder ;  I understand the indwelling Holy Spirit through my spirit as He indwells me by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14) but you don't understand this because you're dead spiritually and headed to death in Hell in your rejection of Elohim's love (John 3).

I understand completely. That's why you fairy god mommy want's you guys not to hang out with people who have critical thinking. It wants you to spread lies on its behalf but smart people don't buy it. So your fairy god unisex thing wants you to keep your mouth shut around smart people. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Evolutionists - Atheists are "critical thinkers" >>>?  LOL Atheism is the epitome of the eternal fool (Psalm 14:1) who denies the reality before him and delves in the debased and defiled ...  there are none more i-g-n-o-r-a-n-t, willingly, than the destructive, arro-gant, atheist-secular humanist...and the ironic thing is...you don't even realize it. You are de-ath and suffering to any people seeking a wholesome life espousing sustainable norms, mores, values, ethics...you are an anathema in a society that seeks to thrive and love and live in honor.  You are Satan's representative in Time.

Funny watching you squirm as you try to pit your mindless indoctrination against, knowledge, logic and reality. Now tell me again how the fact we have artifacts older than the earth by tens of thousands of years? I loved the part where you expose total self willed ignorance over the variety of science disciplines that expose your unholy spirit for the falsehoods it forces you to spew. Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  You have no "logic"...as you reject logic and cling to the ideology of fools (Psalm 14:1).

I do not share your ideology, that's an out right lie. Your book claims falsehoods as truths despite facts, logic and reality soundly disproving it. Why would you think I would cling to your mythical fairy land book's ideology? Proverbs 17:28 commands you not to engage people smarter than you. That's because it knows its lies that it wants you to mindless spew repeatedly has no place in intelligent, reality based conversations. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  

1) Prove the Bible wrong...prove these falsehoods.

2) You can't honor Elohim and His divine words because you serve the Devil in your sin and unbelief.

3) The "fool" is the one who rejects the reality of Elohim (Psalm 14:1).

I did. Your mindless indoctrination doesn't allow for scientific fact thus preventing you from comprehending reality so you buried your head in the sand. If your fairy god elf is omniscient why didn't educate you as to the facts? Oh yeah, it told you to avoid intelligence and parrot pseudo truths from it's fallible word.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  I've been through the "science" up and through a Masters Degree....it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview.

You would do well to adhere to the Proverbs.

"Through the science" ha,ha,ha liberal arts? theology? Those useless degrees don't count, especially in real academics.  Anything related to something that actually exists?

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ; My advanced degree focused on Constitutional Law and White Collar Criminal Activity...the science involved was genetics in a related field....where you err is thinking that the demonic nonsense you have learned in wasted institutions of higher learning actually contain substance and Truth...you are Darwin's fool and the Devil's puppet.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Odd, most people speaking of their education say they mastered in something specific. They don't usually ramble a couple things and claim it was all "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." Your book teaches you to lie at every corner.

You just lack one thing. When in the presence of your intellectual superiors: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Odd, most people speaking of their education say they mastered in something specific. They don't usually ramble a couple things and claim it was all "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." Your book teaches you to lie at every corner.

You just lack one thing. When in the presence of your intellectual superiors: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  

1) My Masters Degree was focused on my law enforcement occupation....statistics, criminal genetics, constitutional law, white collar crime...sorry if I don't fall into your preconceived ideas of education.

2) You're not "intellectual"...you're spiritually ignorant, you're lost and headed to Hell due your inability to internalize logic and reason and wisdom...you're the devil's fool and you're too blind and lost to understand that.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Odd, most people speaking of their education say they mastered in something specific. They don't usually ramble a couple things and claim it was all "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." Your book teaches you to lie at every corner.

You just lack one thing. When in the presence of your intellectual superiors: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  

1) My Masters Degree was focused on my law enforcement occupation....statistics, criminal genetics, constitutional law, white collar crime...sorry if I don't fall into your preconceived ideas of education.

2) You're not "intellectual"...you're spiritually ignorant, you're lost and headed to Hell due your inability to internalize logic and reason and wisdom...you're the devil's fool and you're too blind and lost to understand that.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Don't blame me for what you said. When did you flunk out?

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Odd, most people speaking of their education say they mastered in something specific. They don't usually ramble a couple things and claim it was all "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." Your book teaches you to lie at every corner.

You just lack one thing. When in the presence of your intellectual superiors: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  

1) My Masters Degree was focused on my law enforcement occupation....statistics, criminal genetics, constitutional law, white collar crime...sorry if I don't fall into your preconceived ideas of education.

2) You're not "intellectual"...you're spiritually ignorant, you're lost and headed to Hell due your inability to internalize logic and reason and wisdom...you're the devil's fool and you're too blind and lost to understand that.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Don't blame me for what you said. When did you flunk out?

@Factfinder @Factfinder

Blame you? Are you suffering from guilt? No, I graduated.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Odd, most people speaking of their education say they mastered in something specific. They don't usually ramble a couple things and claim it was all "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." Your book teaches you to lie at every corner.

You just lack one thing. When in the presence of your intellectual superiors: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  

1) My Masters Degree was focused on my law enforcement occupation....statistics, criminal genetics, constitutional law, white collar crime...sorry if I don't fall into your preconceived ideas of education.

2) You're not "intellectual"...you're spiritually ignorant, you're lost and headed to Hell due your inability to internalize logic and reason and wisdom...you're the devil's fool and you're too blind and lost to understand that.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Don't blame me for what you said. When did you flunk out?

@Factfinder @Factfinder

Blame you? Are you suffering from guilt? No, I graduated.

No you said what you learned was "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  Don't know whether you have a piece of paper or not, doesn't matter. You freely admit you learned nothing by your quote above. 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Odd, most people speaking of their education say they mastered in something specific. They don't usually ramble a couple things and claim it was all "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." Your book teaches you to lie at every corner.

You just lack one thing. When in the presence of your intellectual superiors: Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  

1) My Masters Degree was focused on my law enforcement occupation....statistics, criminal genetics, constitutional law, white collar crime...sorry if I don't fall into your preconceived ideas of education.

2) You're not "intellectual"...you're spiritually ignorant, you're lost and headed to Hell due your inability to internalize logic and reason and wisdom...you're the devil's fool and you're too blind and lost to understand that.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Don't blame me for what you said. When did you flunk out?

@Factfinder @Factfinder

Blame you? Are you suffering from guilt? No, I graduated.

No you said what you learned was "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  Don't know whether you have a piece of paper or not, doesn't matter. You freely admit you learned nothing by your quote above. 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

just_sayin

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@just_sayin ;  Hey....go away...you do you, I'll do me....mind your own business. Please.

So are you telling a believer to be quiet?  What would the good book say?

I don't doubt your zeal, your methods however...

Factfinder

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science. Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science. Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science.

 Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

I said 'You reject your own supposed education with all science.' and you say 'True...' 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science.

 Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

I said 'You reject your own supposed education with all science.' and you say 'True...' 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

Factfinder   I am fully aware that active cognition is NOT an attribute of the atheist but for the forth or fifth time I ask you...please include @rickeyholtsclaw when you reply directly to me as your quote does not designate me as the recipient. Thank you atheist.

1) My advocacy of science does not negate anything...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science.

 Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

I said 'You reject your own supposed education with all science.' and you say 'True...' 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

Factfinder   I am fully aware that active cognition is NOT an attribute of the atheist but for the forth or fifth time I ask you...please include @rickeyholtsclaw when you reply directly to me as your quote does not designate me as the recipient. Thank you atheist.

1) My advocacy of science does not negate anything...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

It negates any possibility at all you have cognitive abilities. You use a computer, an innovation of humans and pretend your fairy god elf made them. You're wrong on that just as you have to admit the babble got the creation narrative completely wrong as science proves. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science.

 Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

I said 'You reject your own supposed education with all science.' and you say 'True...' 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

Factfinder   I am fully aware that active cognition is NOT an attribute of the atheist but for the forth or fifth time I ask you...please include @rickeyholtsclaw when you reply directly to me as your quote does not designate me as the recipient. Thank you atheist.

1) My advocacy of science does not negate anything...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

It negates any possibility at all you have cognitive abilities. You use a computer, an innovation of humans and pretend your fairy god elf made them. You're wrong on that just as you have to admit the babble got the creation narrative completely wrong as science proves. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Science under girds the Scriptures...it can do nothing more...Atheism advocates for the devil...it can do nothing more.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science.

 Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

I said 'You reject your own supposed education with all science.' and you say 'True...' 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

Factfinder   I am fully aware that active cognition is NOT an attribute of the atheist but for the forth or fifth time I ask you...please include @rickeyholtsclaw when you reply directly to me as your quote does not designate me as the recipient. Thank you atheist.

1) My advocacy of science does not negate anything...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

It negates any possibility at all you have cognitive abilities. You use a computer, an innovation of humans and pretend your fairy god elf made them. You're wrong on that just as you have to admit the babble got the creation narrative completely wrong as science proves. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Science under girds the Scriptures...it can do nothing more...Atheism advocates for the devil...it can do nothing more.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL The fact you blindly accept fairytales with no evidence for support and use it for get out of jail cards, for the perverted lust you have towards minorities when you cuff them in the back of your cruiser with false charges; PROVES proverbs 1:7 utterly false. But 17:28 is true. You're supposed to stay quiet around smart people with no issues like yours.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ;  I had those professors, especially from Harvard, who were so liberal they stank...nice...but so liberally pathetic and irrelevant...much like the atheists in this forum.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL irrelevant but you're stuck here 24/7 gettin your rocks off arguing. All for a goddess who said go and make fools of yourselves my sake. What's really funny though is when you become completely unwound and forget what you say! Science brought you computers, your perverse fairy god mommy brought you here making an utter arse of yourself.

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Please use my @rickeyholtsclaw when communicating with me directly; otherwise, your comment appears as a general comment in the notifications...thank you.

1) Science and the "good" it is has brought to humanity is a gift of our Lord who gave us science which is possible due the immutability required for scientific methodology/empiricism. Without our Creator and His attribute of immutability, science would not be possible.

2) If telling the Truth about your atheistic foolishness and your path to Hell in your arrogance and unbelief is making an "arse" of myself....so be it...let's do this.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

He he he so you your lord gave us "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview." 

How hypocritical. First you reject all science as stated above, then take credit for your master the god fairy in the sky, for computers. The deceitful nature of your unholy inner dwelling can't be denied eh? 

 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder

No, not at all....there is legitimate "science" but what you worship is NOT science, it's propaganda...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

You said this as it relates to your degree: "it's all bunk when those secular professors try to justify the idiocy of secular humanism and their progressive worldview."  You reject your own supposed education with all science.

 Because it doesn't align with your propaganda. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  True...when liberal-Progressive-Democrat Professors began their tirades about liberalism-the do-gooder virtue signaling ideology or their sexual proclivities...I just smile...a little embarrassed for them but kept my eye on the prize...an "A" in the class so I could move forward...my last University had strict minimums.... Your silly ideology kinda reminds me of them as well.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

I said 'You reject your own supposed education with all science.' and you say 'True...' 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

Factfinder   I am fully aware that active cognition is NOT an attribute of the atheist but for the forth or fifth time I ask you...please include @rickeyholtsclaw when you reply directly to me as your quote does not designate me as the recipient. Thank you atheist.

1) My advocacy of science does not negate anything...

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

It negates any possibility at all you have cognitive abilities. You use a computer, an innovation of humans and pretend your fairy god elf made them. You're wrong on that just as you have to admit the babble got the creation narrative completely wrong as science proves. 

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28

@Factfinder ;  Science under girds the Scriptures...it can do nothing more...Atheism advocates for the devil...it can do nothing more.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)

LOL The fact you blindly accept fairytales with no evidence for support and use it for get out of jail cards, for the perverted lust you have towards minorities when you cuff them in the back of your cruiser with false charges; PROVES proverbs 1:7 utterly false. But 17:28 is true. You're supposed to stay quiet around smart people with no issues like yours.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

@Factfinder ;  

1) I didn't accept the Scriptures as "fairytales" but as a logical response to the World in which I exist. The Scriptures offer the only plausible explanation relevant to the who, what, where, when, why, how, concerning my presence within the Realm of Time and purpose in same.

2) If you were not trapped by the powers of darkness in Satan via the foolishness of atheism, you too could find life in Jesus and the peace He provides through faith.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)