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Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
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The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)
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Your book tells you fairy in the sky hates lies, doesn't bode well for you. You know when you were hit last week by everyone destroying the validity of your faith your lashed out in defeat and stated accusations like this: Apparently you have a aberrant sexual addiction that shames you and hardens your heart...if you're LGBTQ...Jesus can free you and give you a new life with meaning and purpose (John 3). Now you want to distance yourself? Your fairy knows the truth. Obey it and stay silent around those smarter than you. That may take a vow of silence but it's what your master wants...
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28
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The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7 (ESV)
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You can't go back and edit them because several people captures your posts, including me. Proverbs 1:7 failes you at a 100% rate, why do you still believe?
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: And he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28
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I am sorry for your total Bible INEPTNESS relative to your topic of this thread, whereas I have to HELP YOU ONCE AGAIN for your next time like I have done before within this Religion Forum at your laughable expense.
YOUR TOPIC: "Is the good book telling believers to be quiet?"
YES, especially the 2nd class woman as shown below, whereas these verses are NEVER spoken on Sunday morning church services for obvious reasons! GET IT? Why, because pseudo-christians are "spoon fed" their doctrine with pastors and priests using their Satanic "Apologetic Books" of the Christian faith to keep every adherent in belief and in line!
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
DO NOT DESPAIR, I will continue to help your BIBLE INEPTNESS at your expense in front of the membership in the future so as to not make you the continued Atheist Bible FOOL like RickeyHoltsclaw! Yes again, you can thank me later for this enlightenment....
NEXT BIBLE DUMB ATHEIST LIKE "FACTFINDER" THAT DIDN'T ADD TO THE TITLE OF HIS THREAD DISTURBING VERSES TO PROVE THE BIBLE IS ABHORRED TO BEGIN WITH, WHERE THE BIBLE STATES THAT THE 2ND CLASS WOMAN IS TO BE "QUIET" IN CERTAIN INCIDENTS LIKE SHOWN ABOVE, WILL BE ....?
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RICKEYHOLTSCLAW, THE NUMBER ONE BIBLE FOOL OF THIS RELIGION FORUM, BAR NONE,
Tell the membership, are you married, and if so, do you tell your SECOND CLASS WOMAN as your wife, to just STFU in certain situations as biblically shown below in following Jesus' inspired words within the Bible?
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
YOUR ANSWER TO THE ABOVE TWO VERSES IS:
WAITING!
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How sad, you don't want to thank me for giving you additional "SPECIFIC BIBLE VERSES" in relation to your topic of this thread as shown in this link of mine:
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/176093/#Comment_176093
I was just trying to help you in not being so GAWD-DAMNED BIBLE all the time within this Religion Forum, okay? LOL!
Again, at your laughable expense, I will continue to help you with your outright BIBLE INEPTNESS in the future, so do not despair!
NEXT BIBLE DUMB LIKE "FACTFINDER" THAT NEEDS HELP IN NOT BEING SO BIBLE INEPT, WILL BE .....?
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Your mommy wants her computer back. Don't ask how I know.
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Barring your Rambling Bible Babble in your post in trying to address that I have shown you that the SECOND CLASS WOMAN as the JUDEO-Christian Bible portrays them, are to STFU in church, AND in general, where the man like you, HAS DIRECT AUTHORITY TO RULE over your beautiful wife of 38 years, period! UNDERSTOOD BIBLE FOOL?
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
1. RICKEY, how long did it take for your wife to be comfortable in being ruled by you as the superior man over the 2nd class woman as this verse so states: "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ and the head of the woman in man. For the man is not of the women; but the woman of the man.” (1Corinthians 11: 3,8 )
YOUR ANSWER IS:
2. Did your wife learn early on that she is but a Sister of Eve, where it was EVE that transgressed FIRST in the Garden of Eden to be the impetus of ORIGINAL SIN and therefore women are looked down upon within the scriptures? “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.” (1 Timothy 2:14)
YOUR ANSWER IS:
3. Did you ever have to be in a position with your 2nd CLASS WOMAN WIFE in the following scenario where Jesus' words state:
“It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 25:24)
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HURRY! Copy and paste my post to the equally BIBLE FOOL LIKE YOU above, to help you in the future to bring forth in an appropriate situation like is shown relating to the 2nd class women!
Don't worry, you don't have to credit me, but you bring it forth like it was your JUDEO-Christian Bible knowledge to make you smarter than you are at this time, okay? Good boy!
NEXT ATHEIST BIBLE FOOL LIKE "FACTFINDER" THAT NEEDS HELP IN COPYING MY BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE, WILL BE ......?
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Defeated humiliated clown. How do you live with yourself?
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YOUR QUOTE THAT IS IRRELATIVE BECAUSE SAID PASSAGES STILL REMAIN WITHIN THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!!: 1) Concerning 1 Corinthians 11 and 1 Timothy 2...I explained Paul's admonition in reference to the Delphic Oracles and the women in the Corinthian Church in my previous comment...no need to repeat your defeat here."
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/176192/#Comment_176192
THIS WAS YOUR "BIBLE BABBLE" RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE REGARDING CORINTHIANS 11:3 AND TIMOTHY 2:11-14: "Paul's admonition concerning women in the Church at Corinth and commanding that they remain silent during Church services is relevant to a pagan ritual that was active in the Pagan Temple at Delphi adjacent to Corinth in the First-Century."
It matters NOT what Paul stated in your assumed response to the two Bible verses in question, and that is because of the SIMPLE FACT that they exist in the first place within the JUDEO-Christian Bible to accept and follow, Understood?!
YOUR QUOTE ABOUT YOUR BIBLICAL 2ND CLASS WIFE: "My wife is honored as the wonderful woman that she is...it is not necessary to tell her her place in the home...she has been an excellent, exceptional, Wife-Mother-Grandmother...my Wife is praised, exalted, by her husband and her children."
Barring your biblical 2nd class wife being a wonderful woman to you as described, of which I am sure she is, you say that it is not necessary to tell her her place in the home?! Tell us, where do you get the authority to USURP JESUS' DIRECT WORDS in how you are to handle the woman that you are married too as explicitly shown in Jesus' inspired verse below?
“Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Did you get the "key phrase" in the passage above when it stated; "so also the wives ought to be to their husbands IN EVERYTHING?” This phrase precludes that there are no more headaches, tiredness, excuses, etc., if you want to have sexual relations AT ANY TIME with your biblically 2nd class wife, GET IT? Point this out to her next time she has an excuse!
HOW DARE YOU GO AGAINST JESUS' DOCTRINE IN NOT RULING OVER YOUR BIBLE 2ND CLASS WIFE AS THE SUPERIOR MAN AS JESUS' WORDS TELL YOU TO DO?!
YOUR ANSWER IS:
YOUR BEREFT QUOTE AGAIN IN THINKING THAT JESUS IS THE MESSIAH, WHICH HE IS NOT!!!!: "This is why Messiah was conceived through the virgin seed (Genesis 3:15; Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23) as Messiah circumvented the sin-nature of Adam's seed (Romans 5:12)"
How many times do I have to enlighten you upon the BIBLICAL FACT that Jesus is NOT THE MESSIAH?! Huh?
According to the prophecies in the Old Testament, the Hebrew Messiah must be a descendant of King David through the flesh, whereas Paul substantiates this biblical axiom herewith: “Jesus the Messiah, our Lord, who was descended from David according to the flesh.” (Romans 1:3).
"Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;" (Acts 2:30)
Do the simple math AGAIN, where Jesus' mother Mary was from the tribe of LEVI, and since Joseph was from the blood line of David, but was NOT the paternal father of Jesus, especially by impregnating Mary according to the flesh because Jesus' Holy Spirit did, then Jesus did not have the blood line of King David that he had to have to be the Messiah as shown in the direct Bible verses above!
THEREFORE, QUIT LYING ABOUT JESUS BEING THE MESSIAH!!! ENOUGH!!!
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ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR PITIFUL QUOTES TO "RUN AWAY" FROM MY BIBLICAL VERSES THAT EASILY DISPROVE YOUR ASSUMED THINKING ON THE TOPICS AT HAND!!!!: "Be civil..post a comprehensible rebuttal in a format than can be read and understood void the insane rambling of mental patient. Try very hard to communicate as if you truly desired a legitimate response...please stop with the showboating sarcasm?"
If I have to put up with your "copy and pasting" from your Satanic Christian Apologetic Books with your ever so long needless dissertations, and calling Atheists Devils and fools, then the least of which on your part, is to address my posts that are showing you to be the BIBLE FOOL LIKE FACTFINDER!
AGAIN, address this post of mine whereas the membership is watching!
BEGIN: https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/176264/#Comment_176264
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RICKEY, why are you so SCARED to simply "try" and address this post of mine shown in the link below, where it has been ELEVEN DAYS AND COUNTING, where your perceived biblical knowledge goes severely wanting!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/176264/#Comment_176264
YOUR PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN EXUSE THIS TIME TO NOT ADDRESS SAID POST ABOVE, WILL BE:
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RICKEY, why are you so SCARED to simply "try" and address this post of mine shown in the link below, where it has been FOURTEEN DAYS AND COUNTING, where your perceived biblical knowledge goes severely wanting at your laughable expense AGAIN!
https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/176264/#Comment_176264
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