The white privilege recognizes the historic and institutional power differences between the two groups.

The evidence is undeniable.

Yet, the reverse of a woman targeting men with jokes is somewhat excusable and more tolerable due to the repression women face.

That's why I think only men can be sexist.

Do you understand?

The fact that until movements like sayhername existed white police officers could murder Black people and walk free.

You may want to sit down for this:

For white officers, the probability that a white suspect who is involved in officer-involved shooting has a weapon is 84.2%. The equivalent probability for blacks is 80.9%. A difference of 4%, which is not statistically significant. For black officers, the probability that a white suspect who is involved in an officer-involved shooting has a weapon is surprisingly lower, 57.1%. The equivalent probability for black suspects is 73.0%. The only statistically significant differences by race demonstrate that black officers are more likely to shoot unarmed whites, relative to white officers. - An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force. Roland G. Fryer Jr., Harvard

Further, the study found that when behaviors are taken into account, whites are more likely to be shot by officers than Blacks.  For the record, the study was done by an incredibly liberal Black Harvard professor.  

Every incident where a police officer fires his gun is investigated.  It is unjust to claim that white officers shoot Black suspects because they are Black.  Officers generally are responding to behavior.  There may be some bad officers, and they should be prosecuted.  However, claims of systemic bias are misplaced, as the data suggests that Black officers are more likely to shoot white suspects.  By the way, Black officers are also more likely to shoot Black suspects also.  Do you know why?  Its not because they are racist.   Can you guess why Black officers are more likely to shoot a suspect?

Don't you think at least some leeway should be cut? That there is justifiable anger even hatred towards white people in this common scenario.

We should not rationalize crime or racism.  Hating someone because of their skin color is not justifiable or rational.  Do you not see that you are excusing some types of racism based on the color of the one who commits the racist behavior?  Would you think it "justifiable" or "rational" for someone to attack you because of your skin color, because they had had a bad experience with someone else who is your skin color?  Again, there is no good racism.

"Solano County District Attorney Krishna Abrams declined to bring charges against McMahon, who is white, saying the February 2018 fatal shooting of Foster, who was Black and unarmed, was justified."

Dreamer, the man shot was "struggling" with the officer.  He had already been tased and continued to fight.   The rapper who was shot had a semiautomatic gun on his lap. The officer was fired for violating department policy during the shooting "by engaging in unsafe conduct and neglect for basic firearm safety,"  So tell me, do you think, that racism is to blame for every interaction between a white officer and a Black person?  Do you default to assuming the white officer is in the wrong?  I hope not, that would be a racist belief.  Forensic evidence showed that Michael Brown reached into the officers car and attempted to grab his gun.  Eyewitness testimony said that he did not lift his hands and did not say "hands up, don't shoot" as BLM has falsely claimed.  That officer was rightfully exonerated also.  

Hey, I get it.  There is a lot of competing information out there.  Let me point you to a few studies:

a) Peter Moskos of John Jay College of Criminal Justice at CUNY. found that “Adjusted for the homicide rate, whites are 1.7 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police. Adjusted for the racial disparity at which police are feloniously killed, whites are 1.3 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police.”

b) According to a study based on reviews of police records for Boston, Camden, Austin, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, and six Florida counties by Roland G. Fryer J. An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force. Journal of Political Economy. found:

“Blacks are 23.5 percent less likely to be shot by police, relative to whites, in an interaction”

c) Another study that found no evidence of systemic racism in use of lethal force among police was Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings, PNAS. It concluded:

We did not find evidence for anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparity in police use of force across all shootings, and, if anything, found anti-White disparities when controlling for race-specific crime.

d) Even the way-left-leaning Center for Policing Equity. See See https://policingequity.org/images/pdfs-doc/CPE_SoJ_Race-Arrests-UoF_2016-07-08-1130.pdf. You have to dig deep into pages 20 and 21 to see that police are 42% less likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than when arresting whites and police are 59% less likely to use lethal force when arresting blacks for serious violent crimes than when arresting whites for serious violent crimes. Check it out though.

e) Another study Is There Evidence of Racial Disparity in Police Use of Deadly Force? Analyses of Officer-Involved Fatal Shootings in 2015–2016, by Cesario, Johnson, Terrill. It found:

“Exposure to police given crime rate differences likely accounts for the higher per capita rate of fatal police shootings for Blacks,

E is the reason why Black officers are more likely to kill Blacks than white officers.  In so many "studies" attempting to claim racism behavioral statistics are omitted.  A 30 year cumulative report by the FBI found that in homicides where the perpetrator's race was known, Blacks were identified in about 50% of these crimes, though they are 13% of the population.  That number had dipped some before COVID and then surged back up again.  Behavioral differences account for the vast majority of discrepancies in police interactions with Blacks.  This is often omitted and it is even suggested that violent crime rates between the races are the same.  They are not.  And any fair discussion of police conduct must also include a discussion of behaviors that trigger police using force or drawing a weapon.

jack said:

@Dreamer

Hello Dreamer:

Can you tell me why you used a photograph of Auschwitz?

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Dreamer said:

That being said white people should still be anti-racist, just don't go overboard and accidentally drift into dehumanizing condescension like Diangelo has done.

Thank you, thank you, Mr Vaulk, for your intelligent and well reasoned contribution.     I have been on this debate site for a couple of years and so far, everybody I have crossed swords with on this topic was either a virtue signalling ninny, or a calculating dishonest type.      It is refreshing to know that some people exist who will debate a subject on it’s merits, without grandstanding and being obstructionist.

Mr Vaulk quote    Well that's mighty up-front of you to admit to being Racist and while I can see some Racially charged statements in your response, I don't necessarily see that you've said anything Racist.  What you've done is outlining the difference between difference Races, Ethnicities, and Nations.  

You would be in the minority there for thinking that I am not saying anything racist.    The present widespread orthodoxy seems to be, that races (like males and females) are equal in every way, and to even suggest that they have unique differences is to be labelled a far right Nazi baby killer.    

Mr Vaulk quote      So firstly, yes, different Races of Human Beings look different and they are different.  I'm not a geneticist nor do I have any learned background in DNA, genetics, evolution, adaptation or the like so I cannot say definitively that people look different because they are and I doubt such research exists after about the 18th century. 

Would it not be reasonable to say that the reason why some races have dark skin is because they evolved to live in hot and sunny climates, where clothes are not necessary, but solar skin protection most certainly is?    And white people evolved (or adapted) to live in cold climates, where clothing was absolutely necessary, and solar skin protection was not such a priority?   Therefore, is it not fair to say that white people have superior adaptation to living in cold climates, while dark skinned people have superior adaptation to live in hot and sunny climates?

Mr Vaulk quote     Simply put, people may look different for any number of reasons and while generalizations can and have been drawn throughout history with shocking accuracy, attempting to group everyone based on their appearance leaves entirely too much room for error.      If it could be narrowed to a margin of error of less than 5% then I'd agree that it's safe but it's likely somewhere in the 15%-20% range as far as exceptions to this rule and that's far too much of a margin for strict generalizations based on appearance.

 But people do not know everything, and usually, the only way that we can make sensible decisions with little direct information , especially about other groups of people, is to make generalisations about them from known data.     Generalisations do not have to be absolutely accurate, only accurate enough to make a decision.     And as long as a person recognises that their generalisation about other groups of people may not be entirely accurate, and is willing to modify their generalisation as more data comes in, then I say that there is nothing wrong with it.    People generalise to think.    We do it every day.    There is nothing wrong with it because everybody does it.   

Mr Vaulk quote.   As for different people "Evolving" differently due to environmental effects.  What you're talking about is adaptation.  I don't subscribe to evolution for a number of reasons but adaptation is a directly observable phenomenon and that's likely what you're referring to in regard to people appearing different as well as having different strengths and weaknesses.

 I do not know how you reconcile “adaptation” if you do not believe in evolution.

Mr Vaulk quote   o your question of what the issue is behind recognizing that different races have a genetic predisposition for physical potential, well there's nothing wrong with it.  It's well documented science that Black people, as a whole, are generally gifted with higher lean muscle mass than White people while also having lower muscle quality.  Non-White people typically suffer more health issues as they age than White people while White people typically suffer larger losses in muscle mass as they grow older than other races.  None of this is controversial unless you attempt to use this data to draw conclusions or correlations to superiority.  While you certainly could suggest conclusive evidence for superiority, and effective suggestions at that, the issue glaring back in the mirror when attempting this "Connect the dots" game is that you inevitably find that for each superior characteristic of one race, you find 1-2 inferior characteristics as well. 

 I would agree with all of that.    But we live in an age where people appear to be conditioned (brain washed) to think that everybody and everything is absolutely equal in every way.   Men are equal in every way to women.    Men can put on a dress and call themselves “a woman” and compete against women in sports, and some people see nothing wrong with that.    All races are equal in every way.    To say different is to be a racist, and such people who say that evil beyond the pale.    All classes in society are equal.      An East End flower girl can pass as a Bohemian princess if Rex Harrison gives her elocution lessons and puts her in a pretty dress.

Mr Vault quote     On your point of Religion influencing societal progression, it's true that certain religious leaders have had great and negative impacts on society as a whole and have hindered the progression of civilizations since the beginning of time.  It's too bad there wasn't a road-map for any of it, these people were essentially experimenting with it and blew themselves backwards for the most part.  I doubt very seriously you could find anything in the genetic code of people who were physically present to experience the effects of that particular Religious era.  .  Society has a great way of pushing people forward or dragging them down and stopping progress, I don't think there's any evidence that this type of effect has influence over your genetics.  If you and I went back in time and spread a rumor that girls who didn't wear socks were obviously harlots, when we returned to present day and found that there were laws in place that required you to wear socks at all times...you likely wouldn't find any difference in genetics as a result of it.

 I would have to disagree with that point.   I have already given Islam as a way in which negative genetic inheritance can be passed down through generations to negatively influence an entire race of people.    So too, I think that my observation into why Jews are so smart is also valid.    My favourite is the Catholic faith.   The human race owes a dept of gratitude to the Catholic faith because it’s leaders will not allow it’s most ardent supporters, it’s priests and nuns, to breed.    So, it has been genetically eradicating religious fanaticism for the last 2000 years.   And the Pope wonders why he can’t find enough priests?  

Mr Vaulk quote      About your claim that Jews are the smartest Race on the Planet.  It's an interesting thought but I doubt it has anything to do with genetics.  Instead what you're probably seeing is generations of social conditioning starting at a VERY young age (Similar to Asians) that your choices and decisions have an apocalyptic effect on your outcome in life. 

My observation is, that smart people value education.    Du-mb people do not.    Here in Australia, two thirds of the Northern Territory education budget goes towards students of aboriginal descent.    Special programs exist to feed aboriginal children, because their own parents don’t bother feeding them.      But even with free food, non-attendance at school by aboriginal children is so endemic, that State and Federal governments give aboriginal parents a special welfare allowance to make their kids go to school.     Then there are the government employed “chauffeurs” who are given publicly purchased cars and publicly supplied fuel, who go around aboriginal households to pick the kids up and make them go to school.    And all that the money buys is a 90% failure rate among “aboriginal” children in national NAPLAN examinations.

Mr Vaulk quote     Consider how we raise American Children for the most part in today's age...we let them (Or force them) to be unaccountable, irresponsible, unreliable, and for the most part without any real consequences until they are 18 years of age when we suddenly and without any warning drop the world onto their shoulders.  Now consider that Jewish and Asian Children are raised from a VERY young age (Usually as soon as they can understand instructions) to be accountable, responsible, to have integrity, to be loyal, to be honorable, to weigh each decision as if it may ruin or complete your entire life...this is what you're seeing. 

Smart people raise their kids well.    Du-mb people do not bother.   It is all quite simple, really.     You are smart enough to recognise that races have different physical attributes.    Why are you so reluctant to admit that they probably have different mental attributes as well?

The white western world is being torn apart because we as a race refuse to recognise that the reason why so many races and ethnicities are dysfunctional within western society, is because too many people from these races have very low IQ.    And, they probably have a genetic predisposition to violent behaviour as well.      Instead, we blame ourselves and self flagellate for the failings of others.      We throw truck loads of public cash at the problem to try and elevate these dysfunctional races, and we wonder why no amount of money will make an improvement?       

Mr Vaulk quote  As far as personality and social characteristics, you are likely correct.  Case in point, the Warrior Gene Project.  I took part in the study from 2007 - 2014 where they attempted to isolate a gene that allegedly only existed in certain people as a result of horrific childhood experiences.  The idea was that the Soldiers who possessed this gene were genetically resistant to PTSD or combat stress.  Whether or not its real or the outcome was proven I have no idea but you and I aren't the only people to suggest that your personality and psyche can be measured through your genetic code.  I have no doubt that genetic markers can be found for different personalities and likely personality disorders, to what extent I cannot say.

 Thank you, thank you Mr Vaulk.    I have heard about the “warrior gene” project and it is obvious to me that some people in every race are born violent, and different races have different proportions of this genetic makeup.     Even Criminologists today are admitting that violent criminal behaviour can be genetically inherited. 

Mr Vaulk quote.   I'd say with a great deal of certainty that what you perceive to be a Race of genetically superior people is actually an Ethnicity of people who take Child-rearing VERY seriously and who want what's best for their offspring.  I'd be willing to give it to you that Asian Children do seem to have an inexplicable predisposition to mathematical proficiency.  That I cannot account for and it may very well be something genetic.

 It depends upon whatever “superior” characteristics you are seeking?    Those races who have a higher proportion of men who can kill other men without it affecting their mental equilibrium, should make superior soldiers to those of more pacific races.     However, if what you are looking for is people who can live peacefully in a stable society where intelligence is the superior virtue, then you don’t want a bunch of low IQ violent people infesting your society, or violent crime will skyrocket.

 In the western world today, crime is skyrocketing.     What has changed, is that in a time of extreme humanitarianism, we went all in for human equality, and refused to consider that importing violent and low IQ people into western society was not a good idea.   Incredibly, we are still in denial over that. 

Dreamer said:

@just_sayin

If a female commits a misogynistic act against another female this is horizontal or internalized sexism, both are on equal footing. This is not the same as male a committing the same act. Same with race.