Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist group, has a long history of carrying out attacks against civilian targets. There are several reasons why Hamas might choose to target civilians:
1. Propaganda: One reason Hamas may target civilians is to generate media attention and spread its message to a wider audience. Attacking civilians can also create fear and uncertainty among Israeli civilians, which may help to achieve Hamas' broader political goals.
2. Limited military capabilities: Hamas may also target civilians because they have limited military capabilities compared to the Israeli military. By targeting civilians, Hamas may be able to inflict greater damage and casualties than they could through purely military operations.
3. Revenge: Another factor that may motivate Hamas to attack civilians is a desire for revenge against Israel. Hamas views Israel as an occupying power that is oppressing the Palestinian people, and attacking Israeli civilians may be seen as a way to strike back against Israel and undermine its legitimacy.
4. Easy targets: Finally, targeting civilians may simply be a matter of practicality. Civilians are often more accessible and easier to attack than military targets, which are often heavily guarded.
It's important to note that deliberately targeting civilians is a violation of international law and is widely condemned by the international community.
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"Nomenclature/Galvanise" thinks analyzing terrorism is "goading". And he said he muted me.
Why is he upset by analysis of a terrorist group? Does he support them??
Reported to aarong: Violation of International Law: Support for terrorism.
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Why does Israel target Palestinian citizens instead of military targets?
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Hilarious, it's against the law to speak out against Israeli war crimes. Your support of terrorism somehow doesn't count? Thers a name for that.
I've reported you yet again for your attempts to harrass , goad , bully and promote your political ideology
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You're reported yet again for bullying and harassing and constantly posting up your political ideology
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Dee claimed he muted me. Another lie.
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No I never claimed that .Please stop lying .
Reported again for trolling
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I've reported him.also ,it's obvious he's trolling
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@aarong
Dee said:
When german soldiers gave kike woman a hard fu-king up their obliging b-tts the b_tches always farted,,they had a problem with gas
I have to agree with that one Kornfeds mother has the most gold medals for s-cking German d-ck ( a family specialty ) , she has no equal rumour has it she has plenty more ......gas in the tank
Why isn't Dee banned already?
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Argument Topic : Korngold is persisting in posting up anti Irish hate pieces , I just want to debate but he's littering the site with his inflammatory political ideology
@Aaron Jules insists on posting up hate posts against the Irish , this is hate speech
Korngold deserves a ban
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When german soldiers gave kike woman a hard fu-king up their obliging b-tts the b_tches always farted,,they had a problem with gas
I have to agree with that one Kornfeds mother has the most gold medals for s-cking German d-ck ( a family specialty ) , she has no equal rumour has it she has plenty more ......gas in the tank
Reported to aarong and DebateIsland's host registrar, GoDaddy. DebateIsland may be shut down for allowing the above posts.
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Argument Topic: is this hate speech from Korngold called debate?
I have a futher 17 examples of Korngolds inflammatory hate crimes
Korngold deserves a ban , reported to A and host Go Daddy ......Korngold lives in the US so is subject to punishment under their laws
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I didn't make up the Irish jokes. I got them from Irish websites.
Another one from https://www.theirishroadtrip.com/funny-irish-jokes/:
“An Irish farmer was walking along the boundary between his and his neighbour’s fields when he spotted his neighbour carrying 2 sheep in his arms.
‘Tony’, he called. ‘Are you going to shear those sheep’. ‘I am not’, the neighbour replied, ‘They’re both for me’.”
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Argument Topic: I got my jokes from my Jewish learning
Schwartz is sitting in his room, wearing only a top hat, when Steinberg strolls in.
“Why are you sitting here naked?”
“It’s all right,” says Schwartz. “Nobody comes to visit.”
“But why the hat?”
“Maybe somebody will come.”
Korngold neglects to say what site he got his hate " jokes " from instead he lies ....again
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Why Does Hamas Target Israeli Civilians Instead Of Military Targets?
The warning here is the democratic voting process can become a means of self-incrimination making a population of organized law part of the Armed Services of that United State of law otherwise a Nation. Also keep in mind the definition of Nation would include in whole truth, and in writing, when often not disclosed openly, held beliefs as a component of what binds the people as a united state, nation.
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Do you support Israeli state terrorism?
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He seems to think only Jewish lives are important this guy openly admitted that he takes pleasure in the Israeli forces bombing shopping centres in Palestine , he actually reports people for what he terms " Hate crimes " if you dare disagree
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Wow! That is a very hard question to answer in whole truth.
First off, we would need to agree on the principles of terrorism and that could take some time to establish between the two of us. Without going on forever about all kinds of details. George H Bush had used that word to describe events as a witness and I am unsure the principle applied to what had taken place in whole truth. I do not see It as a lie but rather an unexplored whole truth of events.
Second any grievance Israel holds with United State Constitutional Right is in understanding how such constitutional right a supreme connection is to established justice over legislation law and this might influence some of my choices between Right & Wrong.
Terrorism is something a criminal might feel they have been made subject too so I may not agree the word is in line with the issues of grievances between opposing sides of a debate on legal issues. To simplify a united state created by the Israeli this argument of wrong may be over a civil war that is taking place outside the normal boundaries of just on Nation. How does one recognize / see a nation as a state?
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Why Does Hamas Target Israeli Civilians Instead Of Military Targets?
Civil Wars are fought between civilians correct?
I find the answer to this question is a united state that is shared by America due to the very poor current state of the union established by connections set between democracy and voters. Any governing force anywhere mingles often in such ways with any justice system does not need to implement a draft to place voters in harm's-way. In some cases, the action may be covert or just accidental by malpractice of law. For the record, as whole truth, Israel does not have a Military they oversee an Armed Service due to the introduction of females in the ranks of service. This is only a detail of whole truth and nothing but truth as fact, not a declaration of incompetence of service by women in that position of sacrifice itself.
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After exhaustively reading through your copy and pasted listed from Wikipedia, I have determined that over all of Israeli history past 1949, 838 civilians were killed by Israeli forces. This hardly constitutes terrorism... Especially when you take into account of the fact that around half of the civilians were killed in botched airstrikes, rather than deliberate war crimes and massacres.
If Israel is a terrorist country for killing 838 civilians over the span of 74 years. What do you call Britain, a country that killed 24,000 people in the span of three days(bombing of Dresden)? Or is there a double logic that you are holding?
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If Israel is apartheid, why did it have an Arab party in power two years ago? Why do Arabs even hold power in the Knesset if Israel is an apartheid nation?
We already debated this on previous threads(from all you stopped posting arguments), so I doubt you'll respond to me again.
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●●●If Israel is a terrorist country for killing 838 civilians●●●
Got ya that surely couldn't be terrorism as the numbers are to low , so using your logic 9/11 wasn't terrorism ?
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@MineSubCraftStarved
My alt is a genius!
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He sure is by your standards he's not sure if 1+1 =2 or 3.......hey maybe you can help him .....
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If 9/11 was done over the course of around 100 years and with an intention other than to annihilate other groups, then yes, it would be similar to what Israel did. However this was not the case.
9/11 was terrorism because it was done by a group that sought to eradicate western civilization through mass killing. Israel isn't seeking to annihilate the Arab world through mass killing, so it isn't trying to achieve terrorism. Simple as.
You ignored this point entirely:
What do you call Britain, a country that killed 24,000 people in the span of three days(bombing of Dresden)? Or is there a double logic that you are holding?
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Why do you sneer at copy and pasted pieces?
How many people injured by Israeli forces in the last year?
Where did you get your ridiculous 838 figure from?
What figures makes something terrorism?
Human rights organisations around the world have cited Israel for war crimes and atrocities, the evidence is conclusive regards Israels targeting of schools and hospitals
Your deflections by asking an irrelevant question is telling.
I don't expect much more from you a man who hasn't decided if 1+ 1= 2 or 3
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The state of Israel from its formation planned the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians this I clearly demonstrated to be the case in the past
Israel indulges in terrorism you don't get to define the terms
Israel is consistently cited for war crimes and human rights abuses ,they are a cowardly bunch of bullies who hypocritically define attacks on them " terrorism" but attacks by them are never such right?
Your final question is totally irrelevant and a red herring
Hey did you ever find out if 1+1 = 2 or 3?
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...
1948–2021.
That's not counting the massacres and terrorist attacks in 2022/23
Clearly demonstrates that people like @MineSubCraftStarved have to dishonestly claim the figure is only 838
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The inside background on this is that it is a self-evident truth from a movie (Title name: Lucy) involving unlocking the full potential of the mind. There is a point in reason where 1 + 1 will no longer ever make 2.
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I totally agree , just look at minesub and his absurd denialism , he's actually denying reality
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Amnesty international has claimed Hamas does target Israeli civilians:
Human Rights Watch has condemned Hamas for targeting Israeli civilians:
The UN has condemned Hamas for firing rockets at Israeli citizens.
NATO cites evidence that Hamas also uses human shields and feels Israel is justified in using weapons in those instances.
The answer to the debate question seems pretty clear Hamas has target Israeli civilians.
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No it definitely is. The question is not about Israel's conduct. Its about Hamas'. Even if Israel has engaged in bad behavior, it would not alter the fact that Hamas has not only targeted Israeli citizens, but has used it own people as human shields in an effort to falsely accuse Israel of targeting civilians. Those claims are made by NATO, Human Rights Council, the UN, and Amnesty international. Whipping out a claim of "Israel bad" , just doesn't measure up. It is impotent to alter the fact of Hamas' actions - which there is substantial evidence for. It may make some feel better to say "Israel bad too", but the debate is about Hamas' conduct - and that fact seems well established.
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Honestly Dee, there is so much idiocy on this website that it's difficult to even contemplate that I'm arguing with real people who truly believe they are making sound arguments. It's no wonder we annoy them, because we have a village populated by village id-ots.
As a nation they all sing the very same mantras ....guns don't people .......minimun wage is evil...... we have the greatest free speech laws in the world (majority members on here ) think free speech should only apply if you agree with them ..... only other countries do terrorism ......they insist on being ripped off with healthcare costs ......they think trillion dollar spends on the military is money well spent , housing the homeless though is criminal .........and I could unfortunately go on , a nation of mostly dreanged uneducated imbeciles .
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What an incredibly week argument you have made. Insulting others doesn't show that Hamas has not targeted civilians. You haven't produced any evidence that claims that. Even Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have admitted to using human shields when launching rockets into Israeli civilian neighborhoods. The "oh the world is against me so I must insult the world" line of debate, may make you feel better, but it is a very impotent argument.
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What an incredibly week argument you have made.
Listing off Israeli war crimes is a weak argument? Seriously? The truth really does hurt it seems , thankfully human rights agencies around the world disagree your infantile denialism
BTW " week " ....seriously?.
Insulting others doesn't show that Hamas has not targeted civilians
I insulted no one , I defended myself against a vicious troll who has been disciplined naturally you kiss up to such
. You haven't produced any evidence that claims that. Even Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have admitted to using human shields when launching rockets into Israeli civilian neighborhoods.
You forgot to mention since 2000 DCIP has documented 26 cases involving Palestinian children being used as human shields by the Israeli terrorists , whys that?
The "oh the world is against me so I must insult the world" line of debate, may make you feel better, but it is a very impotent argument.
What are you on about? You seem very angry and upset that freedom fighters give Israeli bullies the thumping they deserve , are you going to cry?
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You forgot to mention since 2000 DCIP has documented 26 cases involving Palestinian children being used as human shields by the Israeli terrorists , whys that?
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Yes, its a weak argument, if Israeli war crimes isn't the debate topic. You could list cheap alternatives for Viagra also, and I'm sure Galvanise would appreciate it and give you a thumbs up, but it is irrelevant to the debate topic.
Yeah, right. You never insult anyone **sarcasm**
Because its off topic. This isn't about Israeli conduct, but Hamas' conduct. I keep mentioning that. Not sure you got it the first half dozen times.
Nope. Not angry. Just worried about you not being able to admit that Hamas has intentionally launched thousands of missiles at Israeli civilians and have used their own children as shields for launching those rockets.
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Yes, its a weak argument, if Israeli war crimes isn't the debate topic.
It's a great argument proof being you've no response, you may get help if you wish
You could list cheap alternatives for Viagra also, and I'm sure Galvanise would appreciate it and give you a thumbs up, but it is irrelevant to the debate topic.
Wow,! Your the same guy who claims to be a christian and boasts about feeding the poor, do you show your wife your hate posts or the preacher on Sunday when you do your pretend Christian act ?
Yeah, right. You never insult anyone **sarcasm**
I don't mean to be condescending to you ( that means talk down to you ) but you yanks are terrible cry babies you all love dishing it out but bawl like liddle gurls when you get some
Thats Because its off topic. This isn't about Israeli conduct, but Hamas' conduct. I keep mentioning that. Not sure you got it the first half dozen times.
No its not , its a hate piece I keep mentioning that not sure if you got it the first 2om times
Nope. Not angry. Just worried about you not being able to admit that Hamas has intentionally launched thousands of missiles at Israeli civilians and have used their own children as shields for launching those rockets.
You're " just worried" why not pray on it.?
I've nothing against brave freedom fighters , I have though against Israeli terrorists using kids as human shilelds
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Not a lot probably given how Israel hasn't been in any armed conflicts. How about you tell me if you want to make an argument surrounding that?
From the list of sources that you pulled from Wikipedia by counting up the death tolls(taking the highest estimates).
You sent the link, shouldn't you know this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_committed_by_Israel
A sustained military practice of specifically targeting civilians only for the sake of murdering them.
You mean when Hamas places rockets and weapon caches in those buildings, right? Because Israel rarely ever bombs such buildings without their existence of hostile military activity in the vicinity.
Which is why there are over 1.5 million Arabs living in Israel today, correct?
If Israel is committing ethnic cleansing, why was there an Arab party in the Israeli government in 2021?
Not sure what you mean also by the beginning... Because as I have discussed extensively previously, the vast majority of evictions in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war were done out of security, not ethnic cleansing. Thus Israel did not practice ethnic cleansing.
Killing enemy soldiers in wars is not terrorism... That's absurd...
It's completely relevant to your bad definition of a terrorist state. Again:
What do you call Britain, a country that killed 24,000 people in the span of three days(bombing of Dresden)? Or is there a double logic that you are holding?
Stop avoiding the question. It is completely relevant to the topic, as how many civilians does a country need to arbitrarily kill to be a terrorist state?
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So Hamas militants are now freedom fighters?
I'd love you, an Irish atheist to go and move to Gaza and tell them how brave their struggle is.
Where next, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, maybe a quick stop Hezbollah for kicks and giggles? After all, these organizations are brave in their courageous effort to win the freedom of geocoding infidels. Truly the most exemplary of "freedom fighters."
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So Hamas militants are now freedom fighters?
Yes, just like the IRA
I'd love you, an Irish atheist to go and move to Gaza and tell them how brave their struggle is.
Thats not a problem , did you never read of Irish support for Palestine.?
Where next, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, maybe a quick stop Hezbollah for kicks and giggles?
Stop exaggerating, that's more in line with your thinking
After all, these organizations are brave in their courageous effort to win the freedom of geocoding infidels. Truly the most exemplary of "freedom fighters."
But Israeli terrorists regulatly use Palestinians as human shields and you applaud and salute then because you cannot think for yoursslf
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I think it's not a very morally high idea to call groups that wish to destroy Israel and genocide/persecute Jews "freedom fighters." I also don't see how the IRA are also freedom fighters, they were a despicable movement that sought to murder and hurt the English people and Crown. I don't see how murderers can ever be justified. You are justifying terrorism by deflecting it as freedom fighting.
Hamas can never be fighting for a free Palestine because a free Palestine never existed. They are fighting for their own Islamist movements. So they are not "freedom fighters."
And did you hear about all those activists that were severely attacked after entering Gaza and Area A of the West Bank? Like those two German activists a few weeks back that were ran out of some town in Judea and Samaria?
No Islamist government would ever be friendly to you.
Wdym by exaggerating? What did I exaggerate?
The only Israeli policy that I can think of that resembled something like human shields would be Israel's Open Neighbor Policy. However, in such cases civilians do consent to it, rather than being forceed to proceed with Open Neighbor Policy procedures. Thus it cannot be considered human shields, especially when the civilian is not placed as a direct obstacle between the soldiers and their enemies.
Regardless, such a practice ended in 2005. Thus Israel cannot be considered to be using Palestinian human shields in any which way now. However, Hamas can as it regularly hides weapon caches, military outposts, and rocket sites deep within residential districts, schools, and hospitals.
https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/assets/files/other/irrc_856_otto.pdf - A report on it[Open Neighbor Policy], describing it's procedures.
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It is remarkable that once you wear a uniform.and have the state behind you that somehow legitimises rape,,brutalty discrimination , etc etc in the eyes of these hate filled bigots
In a situation like Nothern Ireland Catholics were denied jobs , housing basic human rights and lived appaling lives where misery was their lot ,this daily humiliation gave rise to the savagery of the IRA the savagery on both sides was truly awful.and it got to stage that people on both sides got sick and tired of it , look at it now a remarkable turn around and peace at last
I'm Irish I like most Irish I know have British relatives and friends who I still have to this day and the reverse is true as most British have Irish friend and relatives
A lot of British people during the troubles especially Socialists realised that the treatment of Irish Catholics was grossly unfair as working class brothers and sisters are the ones who always suffer
That vile creature Mine sub fully approved of the paras who slaughtered the unfortunate ordinary citizens who were out on a march asking for peace , he claimed they were in fact in the wrong , even decent people in Britain roundly condemned the savagery of this particular regiment who were guilty of unjustified brutality in several other incidents
How do you even reason with people like him who disgracefully along with Kornfed and Jack befriend and totally support Kornfeds announcement " that's he going of to enjoy Israel drop bombs on a Palestinian shopping centre"
Mine sub is the product of a well to do American family where he's inherited the typically id-otic narrow minded jnfantile mind set of these people where they shoot their collective mouths off at trendy vegan garden parties, where after a second bottle of bud light they are emboldened to start getting all teary eyed and patriotic and actually believe that only for Murica the world couldn't survive
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1 : "Not a lot " 9,000 is quiet a lot, how about you give me an argument around that?
2: The list I sent was only a sample of Israeli terrorist attacks and you couldn't even address that
3: So under your definition Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of American terrorism., at last agreement
4: No,what I actually mean is Israel.has been cited for hundreds of human rights abuses and atrocities do you still wish to.deny this?
5:From the formation of the state of Isrsel.Ben Gurion put forward a plan for ethnic cleansing , you've already taking a previous pasting in tha debate I'm not going to school you again.
6:Targeting children's schools ,hospitals and shopping centres is terrorism , you actually refuse to condemn your buddies Kornfed and Jack for claiming to." enjoy " such , so tell me why.you support the slaughter of ordinary people?
7:You persist with your irrelevant red herring of a question and attempt to endorse state terrorism.by introducing a weak reinterpretation of terrorism , you've admitted Isreal is a terrorist state using your own reinterpretation , well done you.
Do you also concede Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of terrorism as using your own definitions it appears so.
You've lost ......again.
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Dee and Nomenclature/Galvanise cry and whine over dead Hamas terrorists. May there be many more of them!
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Argument Topic: Boo Hoo
Dee and Nomenclature/Galvanise cry and whine over dead Hamas terrorists. May there be many more of them!
Argument Topic : That's not fair Boo Hoo
Kornfed / Minesub is bawling over Israeli child killers taking a pasting from brave freedom fighters , keep up the good work men all should be given medals for bravery
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Paddy drags a massive box to the Antiques Roadshow in Dublin. ‘Where did you get this?’ asks the expert. It’s been in my loft for 40 years, to be sure,’ replies Paddy, ‘and I think it must be some kind of a family heirloom.” I see,’ says the expert. ‘Tell me, do you have insurance?”
'No,’ replies Paddy. ‘Do yus think I shud?” Yeah,’ replies the expert. ‘It’s your water tank.'
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I've heard a few prime example from Biden over here in the last few days, Biden talked the usual inane typically American tripe about " working together " , " shared visions " " unity in thinking" etc , etc, of course the politicians over hear clapped like demented starving seals awaiting fish at his every utterance.
The general consensus was " he's a jolly good fellow" he seems to me just a puppet who's trained to say the " right " same old tired much used and loved mantras
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Time for more fun ......Abraham was out shopping when he bumped into a friend who said, "I hear your wife is having a baby boy - when's it due?" "I suppose when we mutilate its " - he says.
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