If we cannot kill or eat humans, as should be the case regarding social contracts, then the same principle must be applied to non-human sentient life in order to be objectively consistent.
My goal is to interview you and subsequently challenge you on your ideas and positions so as to produce critical thought and introspection.
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And how do you justify your religion?
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What I'm asking is how he knows his religion is true, not questioning his right to belief.
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If his justification for killing and eating animals is based upon his religious doctrine, then I must come to understand that his religion is valid in order for his claim to suffice as an argument for meat-eating.
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How do I know that it is not true? On its face alone, I don't, but a belief can only be justified when the facts of reality back it up.
He does not owe me an explanation? Is this not a debate forum?
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You seem to not understand. I have no issue with his right to belief, for I wouldn't take that away from him. However, if you're debating an issue and use religion to try to fortify your position, you need to demonstrate in argumentation how the religion is true so as to give strength to your side of the debate.
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Okay, so how have you come to understand that what you serve is real?
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If people don't have to present their case for their arguments then why join a debate website? What have you come here for?
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I mean, it's true he's not bound by law to argue his position to me, but people voluntarily have joined this forum to debate their positions so it's only natural that if a voluntary member of this site willingly debates me, I will naturally put his positions to the test as I expect him to do back at me.
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So, how is it that you've ascertained that this scripture is true? After all, delusional people exist and people have the ability to write fiction.
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What is said in this scripture that grants it such validity to you? I need specific proofs for you to demonstrate to me.
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And how have you come to understand this holy spirit which is spoken of is true in reality?
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Reply whenever you want.
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What I want to ask you at this juncture is how you reason that this feeling of 'the Lord overcoming you' is in fact a divine happening and not the result of the mind playing tricks on itself. I can infer that the best explanation out of all technically possible explanations is that you're having false thought processes because there is plenty of understanding that the fallible mind, in league with emotions and deeper psychological issues, can often cause one to misunderstand things and even potentially engage in mental gymnastics of sorts to conjure false divine, religious revelations.
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This does not make it okay to hurt animals, of course, but it does imply that humans and other animals do not necessarily have to be treated equally.
Regardless, the human rights principle says that we cannot kill humans, but it does not really say that we cannot eat human meat. In principle, it would be fine to eat meat of humans who are already dead, or who for some bizarre reason decide to willingly donate/sell their meat to others. Same goes with animals: killing animals may or may not be okay depending on your perspective, but eating them should be fine.
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How should we treat animals? I think we will all acknowledge that most if not all are capable of experiencing extreme pain.
Should the suffering of animals be included in any moral assessment on how we should behave? If not why not?
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Sure, we have a vastly more developed brain, but animals to some degree still experience life, pain, pleasure, sadness, so on and so forth. After all, this is why you deem it not okay to hurt animals, right? Also, how come it’s okay for us to kill animals but not hurt? Is injury a worse encroachment than death now? What about humans with brain damage and/or deformities. Can we kill and eat them since they don’t have the same degree of consciousness we normal people do?
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How is it though that you know with certainty that this change in your being wasn’t self-deception? You say it’s so but I need you to show me how this is the case. For example, an ancient Roman would’ve professed that he felt the divine presence of the Roman gods, but his word and feelings of assuredness don’t make those claims automatically proven. They need to be justified by reality.
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The answer lies in my original statement. If we protect human lives by order of social contract, which we definitely should, then there exists no reason to treat non-human sentient life differently. Now, we can’t treat non-human animals on the same legal basis as humans on all fronts since nature isn’t governable, but the original point still stands.
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I haven’t disputed your original point I was just putting forward a question or two to the forum in general in hope of some interesting debate on the topic
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I understand now. Was originally confused.
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It’s all good , it’s an excellent debate topic
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So if your argument is that if organism X is dominant, then it eating meat to survive is morally justifiable, then I am curious. If an aggressive alien race invaded our world and then became the new dominant life on Earth, is it morally justifiable for them to kill and eat us? How does dominance equate to moral justification? Additionally, how does eating more of something increase the morality of the killing? Would that mean that if a serial murderer eats almost all his victims he should get a lesser sentence than a serial murderer who didn't eat their victims?
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From their point of view, yes, it could be justifiable to kill and eat us. Our morals are ours, and their morals are theirs.
Do you think it is moral to kill a wolf? You might say, "No, a wolf is a living being". But that wolf, in turn, has likely killed hundreds other animals throughout its life. And if you do not kill it now, it may kill dozens more.
These are all complicated and subjective matters.
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****These are all complicated and subjective matters
Yes , that’s a fair comment the matter is deeply complicated. Humans get immense pleasure from eating meat so if we weigh that against animal suffering is it worth it do you think?
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I think that if an aggressive alien race invaded Planet Earth and they came to dominate over the current dominant life form (humans), then yes, I think it would be morally justified for them to kill and eat us. About your second point, I think that if a murderer kills and eats their victims, then they should get a lesser sentence than a murderer who didn't eat their victims, because they were killing them for a reason: to eat them. I strongly believe that purposeful killing is more justified than gratuitous killing. That concludes my argument.
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I personally do not think that pleasure from eating meat really justifies killing animals or raising them on farms - however, meat is virtually necessary for humanity at this point. In the future, synthetic meat will likely replace animal meat and the problem will be solved, but as of now... We could in principle get rid of all meat, but in order to maintain healthy nutrition, we would need some sort of replacement. As far as I know, the only viable alternative to meat (aside from various artificial supplements that have their own issues) is mushrooms, and those are very-very hard to grow in an organised manner.
I do not think we should ignore the problem, but right now farming and, to a smaller extent, hunting are necessary. It could be different 20-30 years down the road, and then this topic will likely become very popular.
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Morality can be subjective depending on what it's predicated upon, but you do recognize that the principles of experiencing life, pain, pleasure, et cetera are principles found in all forms of sentient life and so the nature of killing and eating is the same across all sentient life and thus should be treated with consistent regard, right? If we are to avoid death and strive for prosperity in the forging of a social contract, then, in order to be objective, we should strive to make sure to avoid the killing and eating of non-human life as well.
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What right did I say had to be proven to a government?
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Non-sentient life is the only exception to this because, while it reacts, it doesn't have an active cognitive system in order to experience anything. It's just living matter.
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You know because you know? In order to know something, the knowledge has to be predicated upon information which allowed the knowledge to arise in the first place. So, what information do you have that what you experienced is truly divine in nature?
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