Wrong. You bombed this debate by implying evolution if it happens; would be responsible for the idea rape is okay by suggesting there some 'evolutionary purpose'. which is idiotic. Of course one must take idiotic leaps of faith to make such a claim but that's beside the point. You bombed this thread hoping to get the chance to repeat your religious chant of a silly notion about 'objective morality'. And you know it. Why do you insist on defending a faith that compels you to lie? https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/180279/#Comment_180279just_sayin said:Again, this seems off topic. Are you saying that the Bible led you to conclude that rape is good? Is that your argument? If not, this is an off topic bombing of yet another debate by you. If you wish to debate this topic, why not create your own debate about it instead of bombing others debates with off topic diatribes? just sayinJoeseph said:@MayCaesar
The power of indoctrination is incredible it leads to people believing the most bizzare things , I agree it's very confusing indeed from a modern perspective.
Christians have this view of biblical times like some beautiful fairy tale where good always triumphs and evil is defeated , they attempt to silence those who disagree by saying every negative act by God is actually not the case as angry Atheists who are somehow misinterpreting what God said and meant when he laid down slavery laws, commanded slaughter , etc etc . Very strange people they read one thing yet say it means something else when it casts god in a negative light.
Again, this seems off topic. Are you saying that the Bible led you to conclude that rape is good? Is that your argument? If not, this is an off topic bombing of yet another debate by you. If you wish to debate this topic, why not create your own debate about it instead of bombing others debates with off topic diatribes? just sayinJoeseph said:@MayCaesar
The power of indoctrination is incredible it leads to people believing the most bizzare things , I agree it's very confusing indeed from a modern perspective.
Christians have this view of biblical times like some beautiful fairy tale where good always triumphs and evil is defeated , they attempt to silence those who disagree by saying every negative act by God is actually not the case as angry Atheists who are somehow misinterpreting what God said and meant when he laid down slavery laws, commanded slaughter , etc etc . Very strange people they read one thing yet say it means something else when it casts god in a negative light.
So intimate with it that you can't glean any special knowledge from it and at the same time it allows atheists to know and understand the bible far better than you. You're living a life without purpose, honor, respect or hope just because like an ignorant child, you're afraid of that which doesn't exist.RickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder @Joeseph My relationship with my Creator is intimacy, not legalism...not denominational in origin...but simply a relationship of love and peace and joy...that you cannot begin to understand in a spiritually dead condition. You both are dead men walking...your lives are lived without purpose or hope...
How does my denomination, non-denominational, matter in the debate topic of is rape inherently wrong? This seems like a spurious claim. Do you believe that someone's denomination determines the answer to the debate? Again, you are bombing the debate topic with an off topic agenda. Create your own debate topic and say what you want there.Joeseph said:@RickeyHoltsclaw
Incorrect again Rickey I know the bible as written and intended you have to lie about what it says and pretend the unsavoury verses regards slavery , rape , pillage mean something else entirely, you actually use cherry picked chapters from the bible to contradict the bible and cannot see how ridiculous that makes you.
It's most interesting to me that you and @just_sayin will never say what denominations you both are whyvare you both so ashamed to mention which Americanised verion of the cult you both follow?
Paul Copan's book, Is God a Moral Monster? is not an atheistic book. It addresses the allegations that you made in your posts - specifically the ones about Amalekites, slavery, and does the Bible support rape. I am happy to debate the topics with you, but you should not bomb a different topic with them. If you want to make your argument about these issues, then create your own thread on them. You tendency is that after you lose the debate, you bomb the topic with some off topic issue and then spend your energy on that. For example, this topic is not about slavery, the Amalekites, or even does the Bible support rape, but about if there is inherently anything wrong with rape. You instantly bombed the Christianity debate with the issue of evil - you asked why God allows children to be born with cancer. That's not the topic the OP is talking about. Again, create a new topic and debate that issue if you like. Just respect others debates and don't change the topic.Joeseph said:@just_sayin
Anyway after sludging through more of @Joeseph and @Factfinder 's bombing of this thread with their standard atheist fare (chapters 11 and 16 from 'is God a Moral Monster') ,
FF and I do not require a book regards Atheism.to constantly correct you and Rickey , common sense is all that's required.
I'm glad to see you're now reading books on Atheism but still cannot a decent argument to defend your delusional world views.
Again, this seems off topic. Are you saying that the Bible led you to conclude that rape is good? Is that your argument? If not, this is an off topic bombing of yet another debate by you. If you wish to debate this topic, why not create your own debate about it instead of bombing others debates with off topic diatribes? just sayinJoeseph said:@MayCaesar
The power of indoctrination is incredible it leads to people believing the most bizzare things , I agree it's very confusing indeed from a modern perspective.
Christians have this view of biblical times like some beautiful fairy tale where good always triumphs and evil is defeated , they attempt to silence those who disagree by saying every negative act by God is actually not the case as angry Atheists who are somehow misinterpreting what God said and meant when he laid down slavery laws, commanded slaughter , etc etc . Very strange people they read one thing yet say it means something else when it casts god in a negative light.
Barnardot said:Is Atheism A Religion of Love and Peace?