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You say ....You call names because you have no morals
My reply ....Ahhh you’re getting all upset because you said slavery was immoral and now you’re sulking because you condemned your god as immoral .......
You admitted your god was immoral because he sanctioned slavery, I’m against, so by implication you admit I’m more moral than your god ......Ouch beaten again buddy
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You call names because you have no morals or proof.
My reply .....Ahhhh still crying are you , you admitted slavery was immoral , you admitted your god was immoral therefore I’m against slavery you admit I’m more moral than your god .........Ouch
By the way you accepted my proof regarding slavery or do you want to change your mind and say it’s moral now? It’s ok you’re getting good at lying
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You call names because you have no morals or proof.
My reply .....You accepted my proof you you admitted slavery was wrong
My reply .....Ahhhh still crying are you , you admitted slavery was immoral , you admitted your god was immoral therefore I’m against slavery you admit I’m more moral than your god .........Ouch
By the way you accepted my proof regarding slavery or do you want to change your mind and say it’s moral now? It’s ok you’re getting good at lying
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You say .....More insults....and misrepresentation of my statements.
My reply .....I have not insulted you I’ve pointed out you admitted owning people as property is immoral and I have witnesses , so why do you continue to lie?
Here you go your own words ......
@PlaffelvohfenAsked you ........will you answer my question? Do you think that owning people as commodities is moral?
Your reply ......No I do not.
You agreed that owning people as property was not moral do you want to lie again?
You say ......So I admitted my God was immoral or an assumption on your part.
My reply .....No assumption, your words stated that you agree it’s immoral therefore your god is immoral as he gives the law regards slavery
You say .....I did not admit slavery was immoral,
My reply .....You did your words confirm this
You say ......I always have held that modern slavery is immoral.
Biblical slavery is not immoral.
My reply .....You truly are dense you admitted owning people as property is immoral , now it’s not .....Are you on drugs or drunk?
You say ......You have made very broad statements.
I asked for your support for your statements, you could not produce them, so I denoted your statements were unfounded and asked is this comparable to lying. You then call me a .
My reply ......I’ve proved you’re a compulsive , don’t blame me your words confirm this
You say ......You are the main person who throws out insults, which gives proof to atheists lacking morals.
My reply ......But I’m not insulting you I’m calling you a I’ve just proved my point
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You say .....I stated that modern slavery is immoral, but Biblical slavery is moral
My reply .....So your latest take on slavery is that’s it’s moral to own people but also immoral to own people ......Oooookayyyyyy
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You say ......I know it is hard to understand.
My reply ......Yes it is for me how you think buying and selling humans like animals was moral in biblical times ......
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock
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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
You say ......Its ok you feel differently.
My reply ....Yes I don’t agree with selling my daughters under any circumstances yet you do as it was done in biblical times ......
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
I also feel differently to Christians like you who think beating people is fine because you own them ......
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
But it’s not all bad as you and fellow Christians call me immoral for criticising biblical slavery as yous think it was wonderfully moral to own people as property in biblical times as you admitted right?
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>@ Dee - You hurl out insults many times and I am not the only one who has called you on it.
You aren't Sand. That is pretty much all Dee does. She has even been warned by the Mod.
But as you implied, the first person to break out in insults proves they have run out of intelligent things to say.
>Calling people , compulsive , idiots, saying they attended KKK meetings, these are insults.
Not only are they insults, they are lies, and Dee knows she's lying.
It's the price we pay for a free debate board. Good arguments Sand.
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So typical Ethang jumps to the defence of a guy who claims owning people as property is immoral but not if god sanctions it , as it wasn’t really slavery to buy and sell women and children in biblical times .....Hilarious.
You on the other hand are just a bible thumping rabid racist who rarely says anything remotely intelligent .....it’s obviously genetic
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>So typical Ethang jumps to the defence of a guy who claims owning people as property is immoral but not if god sanctions it , as it wasn’t really slavery to buy and sell women and children in biblical times .....Hilarious.
Stop being . That is not what Sand said. Do you think we can't read what he said? How dumb do you take members here to be?
>You on the other hand are just a bible thumping rabid racist who rarely says anything remotely intelligent .....it’s obviously genetic
And there you go. Stop lying Dee Dee. Stop spinning what people say. If you don't, you will continue to be treated like the troll you are
This is a debate board, not a boxing ring. Anger and bile cannot substitute for intelligence and reasoning.
If you try your brain, you might find that it works. But you have to try it.
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Typical hate filled rant from ET. Incidentally that’s exactly what Sand said and admitted then said “oh it is wrong to own people as property but the Bible’s form of slavery was ......a good thing “ .....takes a nut to know one that’s why you’re defending him.
Incidentally the stupidity is with you and Sand.
You are so you have to lie in an attempt to cover what you and your buddy cannot defend , let’s revisit here is what @Sand actually said .......
There you go Doofus .......Owning people as property is and was moral in biblical times his words not mine .......You really are offensively
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>Typical hate filled rant from ET. Incidentally that’s exactly what Sand said and admitted then said “oh it is wrong to own people as property but the Bible’s form of slavery was ......a good thing “
Because the slavery mentioned in the bible was not owning people but owning their services.
Sand agreed that owning people was immoral, he disagreed that that is what the bible is talking about. You can try to lie as you always do, but we can scroll to his comments.
>.....takes a nut to know one that’s why you’re defending him.
He needs no defense. You just insult and twist people's words. I've seen Sand debate, you aren't a threat to him.
>Incidentally the stupidity is with you and Sand.
If this were true, you wouldn't need insults. And if you've already decided, before any debate, that Sands position cannot be defended, what are you doing here?
>You are so you have to lie in an attempt to cover what you and your buddy cannot defend,
The only one who lied was you, when you claimed that Sand said God was immoral.
>let’s revisit here is what @Sand actually said .......
>There you go Doofus .......Owning people as property is and was moral in biblical times his words not mine
He said nothing about "owning people". He said "slavery", and there are different meanings of slavery. "owning people" are your words, not his.
>.......You really are offensively
At least I can read.
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You say ......Because the slavery mentioned in the bible was not owning people but owning their services.
My reply .....What a throughly comment , let’s continue Sand and your education regarding what the Bible says a book neither of yous have read ........
4Your male and female salves shall come from the nations around you;from them-you may purchase slaves .45You may also purchase them from the foreigners residing among you or their clans living among you who are born in your land. These may become your property.…
See that Doofus? Owning people as property .....All in the “good book”
You say ......Sand agreed that owning people was immoral
My reply ....Owning people as property is slavery you read above
You say ......he disagreed that that is what the bible is talking about
My reply .....But you and he are wrong the Bible agrees with me but you’s deny what’s written in the Bible
You say ......You can try to lie as you always do, but we can scroll to his comments.
My reply .....Wrong again dummy read it and weep ......
4Your male and female slaves shall come from the nations around you;from them-you may purchases-slaves.45You may also purchase them from the foreigners residing among you or their clans living among you who are born in your land. These may become your property.…
You say .....He needs no defense.
My reply .....I know because he had none I beat him like you soundly
You say ......
You just insult and twist people's words
My reply .....The only ones twisting words are you and Sand as in denying what’s written in the Bible leaving your only option left ......lying
You say ......I've seen Sand debate, you aren't a threat to him.
My reply ....You and him are Dumb and Dumber
You say .......If this were true, you wouldn't need insults.
My reply .....I’m not insulting you and him your every posts prove you’re idiots
You say .....And if you've already decided, before any debate, that Sands position cannot be defended, what are you doing here?
My reply .....Says you who jumps in to defend a nut because I thrashed him .....what are you doing here?
You say .....The only one who lied was you, when you claimed that Sand said God was immoral.
My reply .....He said owning people as property is immoral , the word of god actually supports owning people as property Sand admits that’s immoral so therefore god is immoral .....Sand agrees as I’m sure you do now you’ve been schooled
You say ......Sand said - I stated that modern slavery is immoral....
but Biblical slavery is moral.
I have not lied in anyway, my points are very clear.
My reply .......There you go Doofus .......Owning people as property is and was moral in biblical times his words not mine
You say .....He said nothing about "owning people". He said "slavery", and there are different meanings of slavery. "
My reply .....Different meanings of slavery Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha.....What’s the Bible say .....45You may also purchase them from the foreigners residing among you or their clans living among you who are born in your land. These may become your property.…
There ya go dummy owning people as property all from your Bible ....oh dear
You say .....owning people" are your words, not his.
My reply .....They’re not , they’re straight from the book you need to read the Bible
You say .....At least I can read.
My reply .....You cannot as you don’t even know what it says in the Bible
You’ve been schooled again Doofus
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Because the slavery mentioned in the bible was not owning people but owning their services.
>What a throughly comment, let’s continue Sand and your education regarding what the Bible says a book neither of yous have read .......
4Your male and female salves shall come from the nations around you;from them-you may purchase slaves .45You may also purchase them from the foreigners residing among you or their clans living among you who are born in your land. These may become your property.…
Words have more than one meaning genius. In the bible, people who were bankrupt or had debt they couldn't pay, offered to become indentured servants to pay off the debt. They were not owned, their services were.
>See that Doofus? Owning people as property .....All in the “good book”
I see your stupidity and your need to keep the context hidden. The slavery mentioned in the bible was never involuntary.
Sand agreed that owning people was immoral
>Owning people as property is slavery you read above
Owning people as property is only one type of slavery. Turn your brain on for a minute.
He disagreed that that is what the bible is talking about
>But you and he are wrong the Bible agrees with me but you’s deny what’s written in the Bible
Read the bible about how people became slaves. Several accounts are there. The bible forbids kidnap and/or taking a man into slavery by force. You are just ignorant.
You can try to lie as you always do, but we can scroll to his comments.
>Wrong again dummy read it and weep ....
You are just ignorant. Even today, we talk about pro athletes and entertainers the same way. They are bought and sold between the clubs and labels, but sane people know it is their services bought, not them themselves. You think you have to be an for your argument to seem reasonable.
Sands needs no defense.
>I know because he had none I beat him like you soundly
Lol. Did you crown yourself champion too?
You just insult and twist people's words...
>The only ones twisting words are you and Sand as in denying what’s written in the Bible leaving your only option left ......lying
We deny what you say it means doofus. You're the one who cannot explain verses which contradict you. Try these...
Exodus 21:16 - Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death.
Deuteronomy 24:7 - If a man is caught kidnapping one of his brother Israelites and treats him as a slave or sells him, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you.
Thinking will not harm you dee dee, there is no need to be afraid of it.
I've seen Sand debate, you aren't a threat to him.
>You and him are Dumb and Dumber
That leaves dumbest open for you.
>I’m not insulting you and him your every posts prove...
If this were true, you wouldn't need insults.
And if you've already decided, before any debate, that Sands position cannot be defended, what are you doing here?
>Says you who jumps in to defend a nut because I thrashed him .....what are you doing here?
Beating you.
The only one who lied was you, when you claimed that Sand said God was immoral.
>He said owning people as property is immoral , the word of god actually supports owning people as property
It doesn't. In fact, besides the two verses above, the bible says it is God who owns every human being, a man cannot own another man. You are lying because your lame argument needs it.
>Sand admits that’s immoral so therefore god is immoral .....Sand agrees as I’m sure you do now you’ve been schooled
Your word "that's" above is fakery. Sand does not agree that the bible's account is immoral slavery. You do. Saying he agrees with you is a lie.
(For the Gentle Reader: I call this militant anti-theist trick, "atheist with article". They will use words like " it, that, them, those" equivocally to pretend they are talking about the same thing as a theist. Watch an atheist's use of articles closely)
Sand said - I stated that modern slavery is immoral....
but Biblical slavery is moral.
I have not lied in anyway, my points are very clear
>There you go Doofus .......Owning people as property is and was moral in biblical times his words not mine
He said nothing about "owning people". He said "slavery", and there are different meanings of slavery. "
Different meanings of slavery Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaha....
Your stupidity is not my concern. That you don't know that words can have different meanings is your shortcoming, not mine.
>There ya go dummy owning people as property all from your Bible ....oh dear
If the bible forbids taking a person by force, how would you enslave him? If a verse forbids selling people as slaves, perhaps what is bought here is not the person but his services?
You are ignorant of what you condemn. You are ignorant of biblical history.
Owning people" are your words, not his.
>They’re not , they’re straight from the book you need to read the Bible
The bible says owning people is a sin. The verses are above. Your bias has caused you to be .
>You cannot [read] as you don’t even know what it says in the Bible
I showed you that even today, pro athletes and entertainers are referred to as the property of clubs or labels, yet the word "property" does not mean immoral ownership.
I showed you two verses showing that God forbids the taking by force, and the selling of a person, for the purpose of slavery.
I've shown you that the bible says God is the sole owner of human beings.
What have you shown? A silly insistence that the word "property" must have only your meaning.
>You’ve been schooled again Doofus
That you think what you did is "schooling" makes us understand the lack of logic in your post.
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This is where people's feelings get hurt.
1. Not everyone is capable of logical assessment.
2 .The Bible is not chronological as Hebrew thought was more focused on writing down important information than the chrological presentation of information.
READ THE HEADERS of EACH CHAPTER, events and timelines intersect with situations in each chapter.
3. A lack of understanding determines personal confusion.
Most people are not readers of a thesaurus, or dictionary or know about how the Bible records information.
As a result they assume too many things.
Also there are two John's. John the
Baptist,
did not write the book of john. There were two John's.
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Here are 10 to start ........
1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
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1.hroughout the Bible, God’s allowance of something to take place often is described by the sacred writers as having been done by the Lord.
2.difference in classification of rank.please Look up the word valiant.
3. Please look at answer 2
4.The seven years is the combination of the four prior years of famine and the possible future addition of three years. Prior to this incident, in 2 Samuel 21:1
Five I had to look up,
- Young Jehoshaphat and young Athaliah of Israel engage in an illicit affair for political reasons during the reign of Asa.
- Jehoshaphat and Athaliah give birth to Ahaziah, perhaps out of wedlock.
- Jehoshaphat and his true wife, a woman of Judah, give birth to Jehoram.
- Jehoshaphat becomes king of Judah after Asa's death.
- By virtue of his relationship to Athaliah, Jehoshaphat king of Judah is given some jurisdiction over Israel and is considered also "king of Israel".
- Ahaziah, being Jehoshaphat's son, shares Jehoshaphat's limited jurisdiction over Israel and becomes co-regent of Israel with Ahab at age 22.
- Despite being co-regent of Israel by virtue of his father Jehoshaphat's authority, Ahaziah cannot succeed the throne of Israel at Ahab's death because Ahab has his own sons.
- Before Jehoshaphat died, he appointed his younger son Jehoram a pure prince of Judah to become king of Judah, bypassing Ahaziah's right to the throne.
- Jehoshaphat dies.
- Jehoram becomes king of Judah after Jehoshaphat's death.
- Jehoram takes Athaliah as his wife.
- Ahaziah legally becomes the son of Jehoram, despite being older than Jehoram.
- Ahaziah becomes king of Judah at age 42 after Jehoram's death
8.recording real, historical events.The more men slain, the more the list increases. Remember I said the Bible is not a chronological book.
9.the Ark was moved twice, please check the details.
10. Apparently no one reads...
2 Of every clean H2889 beast H929thou shalt take H3947 to thee by sevens H7651 H7651, the male H376and his female H802: and of beastsH929 that are not clean H2889 H1931by two H8147, the male H376 and his female H802.
Please reread Genesis 7
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David Captured 7,000 Horsemen: 1 Chronicles 18:4
You do realize a battle was taking place.......
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You guys are not logical at all.
You have sacrificed all of the details within the text and jumped to conclusions.
Please understand in situations where
1. a battle is taking place
2.specific details illustrate a separate event or situation determine that the reference is referring to an additional details in the timeline
3.that other verses in the Bible make sense of a contradiction,
You don't understand what you're reading....... Because your not reading......so please read.......
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You’re making no sense at all
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I have not a clue of what you’re trying to say as what you typed is utter nonsense
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Whats that got to do with the contradiction?
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You say .......No what I said makes perfect sense.
My reply .....It doesn’t typing a pile of nonsense just makes look what you are
You say ..... Your a moron.
My reply ......Says a clown who cannot spell
You say ......I there might actually be smart people here, obviously not.
My reply ......There are , obviously you’re not in a position to judge
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You'd make for a shitty general.
The verses are indicating a difference between when David initial counted 800 thousand combat ready footsoldiers
And when David counted the whole unit under command.
In one instance it uses the word valiant as people who aren't bitchs who are combat ready and then in the other verse the total amount of soldiers in the unit. The fact your too dumb to understand this when a qualifying word is used is remarkable. It means your .
You can't even identify the context of what your reading. You Dee are a complete moron.
If I said I have 800 combat ready soldiers but I have a total of 100k soldiers both statements are true I'm simply describing a difference between two considerations.
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Also the prophet was stating that three years of famine had already taken place, or were going to so what does 4 plus 3 add up to?
Do you understand the basics of syntax, context, addition, and sentence structure?
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Hilarious nonsense , when you learn to count get back to me
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Whatever you take that makes you is working beautifully
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You’re not very good at being a “Christian “ I think you need to work on it
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>What grades did you get in school or are you still in 3rd grade? Am I even talking to an adult?
We all wonder jesusisGod777, we all wonder.
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Any person defending the bible can't possibly win. You should have changed the topic to "Do the contradictions in the bible suggest it was not written by the Abrahamic god?"
Now: That's framing it in a way that is actually debateable. To argue for something that is verifiable, established fact isn't a debate at all. Anyone who carefully studies the bible will absolutely see dozens, if not hundreds, of contradictions.
For these reasons, I have ranked your topic as irrelevant. It's like as if you'd have asked "Is the sky blue?". Now, I'd understand if we were arguing this from a philosophical standpoint. I mean, I'm a subjectivist, so it's possible to argue your topic from that standpoint: as in arguing it's impossible to prove those contradictions exist, or even the bible, or even this debate itself. Which it is. I am relying on my senses to determine this debate exists, that the bible does, and those contradictions. I can't prove my senses to be accurate though without using my senses themselves. Every means of doing that: relying on others to confirm my senses are correct(this requires that I'm sensing those others correctly), measuring things(again, requires that I'm sensing those measurements correctly or that my senses are correct that those tools of measurment are accurate, etc).
This topic here is only debateable on that sort of metaphysical level, but you didn't frame this from a metaphysical perspective, so it's not at all debateable otherwise.
-Albert Camus, Notebook IV
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I am so glad an anti-theistic person pointed this out, because I think this would biased if someone who believed the Bible spoke against Bible.
It's amazing the contradictions located in history books. This does not take from the trueness of the event.
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But as we show them one by one to not be contradictions, the claimant simply moves to the next half-baked claim.
In the main time, some other yokel who thinks he's "discovered" contradictions in the bible, starts yet another thread and posts the same wall of text as the first yokel.
Debunk too many of their supposed contradictions and they become angry and insulting.
The bible contradiction claim is akin to calling someone a homosexual. The accuser is not interested at all in proving his accusation, he just needs to make it so that the insinuation is out there.
All the accusers have to do is show one contradiction for their claim to be correct. So why do all of them always post a jumble of scatterbrained charges?
Where is the atheist who will list one supposed contradiction, and debate it sensibly to a logical conclusion?
One who will not jump to whataboutism as soon as he is about to lose his original point?
Where is he?
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Your denial of contradictions is typically you as it leaves you in a position you love as in to rabidly attack anyone who disagrees with you , watch now as my little taster drives you into your usual rage.
Remember also you tell everyone “ Read the text as written without your spin on it “ can you do so with this clear biblical contradiction? Bet you start spinning right away .......
Which came first: Adam or the vegetation?
The vegetation!Genesis 1:11-27:
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so […] And the evening and the morning were the third day […] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them […] And the evening and the morning were the sixth day
Adam!Genesis 2:5-9:
And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground […] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food
Will you make to here without spin?
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You can't spin what's stated.
Youve never heard of authorial intent.
Nor do you understand simple contextual imperitives.
If I said someone ate food.
And then I said someone ate good food while eating food.
And the circumstances between me making reference to two different things, the statement is a matter of making references between distinct situations.
- Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
- One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
9 And Joab H3097 gave up H5414the sum H4557 of the number H4662of the people H5971 unto the kingH4428: and there were in Israel H3478eight H8083 hundred H3967 thousandH505 valiant H2428 men H376 H381that drew H8025 the sword H2719; and the men H376 of Judah H3063were five H2568 hundred H3967thousand H505 men H376.5 And Joab H3097 gave H5414 the sum H4557 of the number H4662 of the people H5971 unto David H1732. And all they of Israel H3478 were a thousand H505 thousand H505 and an hundred H3967 thousand H505 menH376 that drew H8025 sword H2719: and Judah H3063 was four H702hundred H3967 threescore and tenH7657 thousand H505 men H376 that drew H8025 sword H2719.
Apparently you don't understand context.
It says in Samuel: eight hundred thousand valiant men
It says in Chronicles:and all they of Israel
These are two different descriptions entirely concerning what's being discribed.
It's not a constradiction it's a statement that is taking into account two tottttttttalllllyyyy different things.
Jesus is God.
Not only are the verses stating something different entirely but they are stating a contextual imperitives particular to the verse.
They are talking about a total number that drew the sword
And talking about a classification of people who drew the sword
If I said seventy seven brave men drew their swords in combat
And I said 500 men drew their swords in combat both statements are true, the statement however is qualifying a difference of context!
Context
Context
Context
Verbs
Adverbs
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@Zombieguy1987
Straight up not a contradiction.
Genesis account of creation.
Verses are not based on a timeline.
Verses are statements.
Verse 19 is a contextual statement and is separated by a colon: please look up what cocolons us fof
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John
Men have not seen God
Men have seen God.
God is a plural noun.
It describes three people who are DESCRIBED as GOD. Each is individually reffered to as God as a result.
Man has seen God Jesus the Christ.
Man has not seen God either as
1. All three
2. The other two who are God the Father Yahweh or God the holy spirit of Jesus Christ.
Man is righteous
Man is not righteous
This is a DOCTRINE
Man can not be righteous without faith.
The writer is making statements regarding faith in Jesus Christ.
Man by himself can not be righteous.
Man can be righteous only when God dwells spiritually in man.
It's a matter of influence.
God's spirit.
Man's sinful nature.
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- Matthew 27: The last words of Christ: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?".
- Luke 23: The last words of Christ: "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit".
- John 19: The last words of Christ: "It is finished".
I seriously think Jesus has made you all on account of your arrogance and disbeilief.Bible says God does that.
I want you to read the word,
words.
Words, is plural. It means words spoken.
It doesn't mean all words spoken.
However considering all of them mentioned it those we're all of the words spoken.
The writers , are stating what they remembered Jesus said ,second let's actually look at all the verses.
All three are correct.
Upon looking at the verses we see there are a few devil's in this thread because in Matthew 27 it says <span></span>
46 And G1161 about G4012 the ninthG1766 hour G5610 Jesus G2424 criedG310 with a loud G3173 voice G5456, saying G3004, Eli G2241, Eli G2241, lama G2982 sabachthani G4518? thatG5123 is to say, My G3450 GodG2316, my G3450 God G2316, whyG2444 hast thou forsaken G1459 meG3165?
47 Some of them G5100 that stoodG2476 there G1563, when they heardG191 that, said G3004 G3754, ThisG3778 man calleth for G5455 EliasG2243.
48 And G2532 straightway G2112one G1520 of G1537 them G846 ranG5143, and G2532 took G2983 a spunge G4699, and G5037 filledG4130 it with vinegar G3690, andG2532 put it on G4060 a reed G2563, and gave G4222 him G846 to drinkG4222.
So it doesn't say those we're Jesus last words in Matthew 27.
46 And G2532 when Jesus G2424had cried G5455 with a loud G3173voice G5456, he said G2036, FatherG3962, into G1519 thy G4675 handsG5495 I commend G3908 my G3450spirit G4151: and G2532 having saidG2036 thus G5023, he gave up the ghost G1606.
30 When G3753 Jesus G2424therefore G3767 had received G2983the vinegar G3690, he said G2036, It is finished G5055: and G2532 he bowedG2827 his head G2776, and gave upG3860 the ghost G4151.
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
“About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” 47 And some of those who were standing there, when they heard it, began saying, “This man is calling for Elijah.” 48 Immediately one of them ran, and taking a sponge, he filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and gave Him a drink. 49 But the rest of them said, “Let us see whether Elijah will come to save Him.” 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit.” (Matthew 20:18-19)
Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.
“And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.” Having said this, He breathed His last.” (Luke 23:46)
It is finished.
“Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.” (John 19:30)
(All Scriptural quotation comes from the New American Standard Bible)
Here’s a closer look at whether or not there is a contradiction:
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First of all, who are you ?
And what version of retard do you speak. I challenge you to a debate. Open a thread. Just so I can show you how EMBARRISING it is that your a moron.
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Thank you for that pile of nonsense that flies from one excuse to another demonstrating if their is a god he’s incredibly as he cannot make his intentions crystal clear leaving idiots like you to put your spin on the nonsense in the Bible
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