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Crisis of Democracy

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Crisis of Democracy

The Crisis of Democracy was authored by the Tri-Lateral Commission who were elite liberal intellectual internationals from the US, Europe, and Japan in the early 1970's. In it, they argued that there is an excess of Democracy and need to find ways of pushing back against the new wave of public opinion from the lower formerly disenfranchised classes. In their view (very similar to that of Socrates in The Republic) is that these lower classes are unfit to make rational decisions about society that will effect all of us (not just them) and therefore should be politically/socially disenfranchised because they are bound to make all sorts wrong decisions that any sensible person/society understands that the higher classes are best fit to make all of these decisions. In The Crisis of Democracy, they made an argument that there is becoming a serious problem with over-education amongst the populace that was newly occurring (in the early 1970's onward). Their reasoning was now that more people are getting Undergrad. level degrees, as well as Masters level, ect. that these lower classes that in truth do not possess the same high level intellect/education that the higher classes (i.e. the elite Liberal intellectuals and possibly some elite intellectuals on the right as well but that point is unclear in their writing)) and that the *lower classes* should in no way be given the false impression that they (even though they are becoming notably more educated) are as qualified to make serious decisions (i.e. engage in the political process) that the elites are (i.e. the Elites should be making the rules, so to speak).  Thus, the *"Crisis of Democracy" is that political activism is leading to *too many* people being involved in the political process and this needs to be pushed back against in order to maintain a more stable, healthy, productive system.


I would also highly recommend reading the Crisis of Democracy as well as it is in many ways a softer modern day parallel to the type of thinking seen in Plato's Republic. Here is a link to the Crisis of Democracy: http://trilateral.org/download/doc/crisis ofdemocracy.pdf


What do you think?  Do our modern societies tend to suffer from an "Excess in Democracy" or is there Too Little Democracy?

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  1. Do our modern societies tend to suffer from an Excess in Democracy or is there Too Little Democracy

    8 votes
    1. Excess of Democracy
      50.00%
    2. Too Little Democracy
      50.00%



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  • During the development of the US Constitution, based on the foundation of the US Declaration of Independence, the US founding fathers followed the French political philosopher Charles de Montesquieu resulting in a republic form of government, not a democracy.

     If one was to read the US Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and the Fifty States’ Constitutions, you will not find the word “democracy” in any of those documents. Why? The answer is found in Federalist Paper #10 where Madison states: 

     “Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

    In other words, democracies are mob-rule irrespective of an individual’s “unalienable Rights.”

  • Democracy works, but needs to be more strict due to some violent pore tests occurring, etc. which were not good for society.
  • someone234someone234 475 Pts
    edited December 2017
    Democracy is a lie. What is best for most people will always be no government and of course they don't want you to realise that.

    I'm not an anarchist because I know that anarchy is unfeasible since no minority doesn't want to look out for itself so 'majority wins' mentality is NEVER EVER going to last in any sense.

    What is true nonetheless is that anarchy ensures most win simply because the only outcome of all having equal chance to harm others is that the truly malicious end up killed off in the long run since most prefer tamed beasts to wild, unpredictable ones and so begins a police force and so begins a system whereby a government forms and then the majority slowly end up sheep to the shepherds et voila, democracy is defeated by itself.
    Be tomorrow's hero, not today's idol.
  • Democracy works, but can be enhanced. It may be better than many other forms of government such as a dictatorship, etc. Violent protests should be cut down on or stopped while peaceful protests should be allowed, but cut down on.
  • Many forms of Gov­ern­ment have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pre­tends that democ­ra­cy is per­fect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democ­ra­cy is the worst form of Gov­ern­ment except for all those oth­er forms that have been tried from time to time.…

    Winston Churchill (House of Com­mons, 11 Novem­ber 1947)


  • There is not enough democracy in our great nation.  :|
  • I just want to share this video, I watched it a while ago and thought it might be informative or helpful in this debate <span>:smile:</span> 


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  • While I do think that an excess of people are involved in the political system, that is not a bad thing. I think that it could lead to healthy debate and discussion, that can be done at any level rich or poor. The real source of problem comes from the political party systems which are closed minded to new ideas and have grown too powerful for the good of America. If we were to refine democracy, I would encourage the formation of new political parties so as to widen the political spectrum for the influx of people into the political system.
    A good debate is not judged by bias, but in the context of the debate, where objectivity is key and rationale prevalent. 
  • Democracy is needed in the US and some other countries to develop civilization and keep peace. It works, but may be able to be improved in some ways.
  • Democracy?? Do you really think that there is a democracy? I would say that there is only the illusion of democracy. 
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