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**** Another individual making money off of putting Religion down, via a published book?
He’s not putting it down he’s saying exactly what’s written in the book of ......Here is exactly what it says in your bat s**t crazy bible so again how’s he “putting” it down?
****Reminds me of the workings of another Atheist author, Mr. Richard Dawkins?
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While science and Atheism tend to go hand in hand, you wouldn’t find an explanation of Atheism in a “Science book.”
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By debating with people, you push yourself further into the maw of self deprecation and servitude.
If your god ( or any for that matter ) was real, why doesn't he just show up and settle this? The complete lack of any evidence whatsoever is more than enough for any rational person to draw a conclusion.
If I told you that there was a rock buried under your house that could prevent cancer and stop all nearby crime by making everyone love each other, but if it was dug up it would cease to work, you would call me crazy.
Then why is it that if you DO NOT believe that there is a magic man in the sky who watches you and hears your thought, and will sentence you to eternal suffering if you do not believe in him, and by the way he loves you that you consider that psychosis?
The irony of your thesis is so hilarious, I literally could not write a satire piece more ridiculous than what you actually believe.
How sure are you that you are not delusional?
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All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Plot twist: the real god is Ra; ancient Egyptians were right. Those who believe in Ra end up in Heaven. Those who do not believe in any gods end up just dead. And those who believe in false gods, including the Christian god promoted by the heretic named Jesus of Nazareth, end up in an especially twisted version of Hell.
Be careful where you seek your salvation in.
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I believe Sumers were the first, but we know fairly little about their gods and mostly can only derive some knowledge from unrelated texts happening to mention them.
Egyptians are probably the first ones the religion of which we know fairly well.
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“Horus was born on December 25th” — According to Egyptian mythological history, Horus’s birthday is celebrated in the season of Khoiak, which runs in the months of October and November, not December 25th. Furthermore, the date of December 25th is never mentioned in the Bible as the date of Jesus’ birth and thus has no relevance to the account of Jesus’ life. So right away, the claims of “plagiarism” look completely baseless.
“Horus was born of a virgin” — There are two accounts of Horus’ birth. The most famous by far, was that Horus was born from his mother Isis, who was not a virgin, but rather a widow of the slain Osiris. Through sorcery, Isis, assembled the body of Osiris and was impregnated with his phallus. Clearly this was a sexual union and not a virgin birth. The “Hymn to Osiris” which records this account states: “[Isis] made to rise up the helpless members [phallus] of him whose heart was at rest, she drew from him his essence [DNA material], and she made therefrom an heir [Horus].”
“Three Wise Men Came to Adore the New Born Savior”– No source is provided by the documentary for this claim. Additionally, the Bible does not say “three wise men” came to see Jesus. It never tells us the number of wise men. And they did not come at Jesus’ birth in a manger. They came to his family home when he was a toddler.
“Horus was a child prodigy teacher at 12”
“Horus had 12 Disciples” — Historian Glen Miller writes: “But again, my research in the academic literature does not surface this fact. I can find references to FOUR “disciples”–variously called the semi-divine HERU-SHEMSU (“Followers of Horus”) [GOE:1.491]. I can find references to SIXTEEN human followers. And I can find reference to an UNNUMBERED group of followers called mesniu/mesnitu (“blacksmiths”) who accompanied Horus in some of his battles [although these might be identified with the HERU-SHEMSU in GOE:1.84]. But I cannot find TWELVE anywhere…]”
Additionally, some of have said the 12 signs of the zodiac are the “disciples” of Horus. Even if this were the case, they are just stars and not actual people who followed Horus, preached about him or recorded his life. This is another empty and false claim.
“Horus was crucified. Dead for three days. And Resurrected” — There is no historical record in any credible Egyptian mythology of Horus being crucified. Additionally, crucifixion was a method of execution invented by the Roman Empire thousands of years after the time of the Horus myth. Whereas the accounts of Jesus’ crucifixion exist in thousands of manuscripts from the century after his death. Additionally, as we detailed in our article “Did Jesus Really Exist? Proving Jesus without The Bible” there are many secular historical sources that record His crucifixion as described in the Bible.
If you are wondering how Zeitgeist could make such wild claims, that have no real historical evidence, they benefit from the Skeptic’s Fallacy: in short, when it comes to attacking the credibility of the Bible it is assumed that the skeptic is completely credible. So the Zeitgeist creators know most people will not research their attacks and just take it as factual (just as Dan Brown did with the numerous inaccuracies of the DaVinci Code). If one takes the time, they will also notice that Zeitgeist gets almost all of its information from one source, a book called “The Christ Conspiracy” by a woman named Acharya S. (we will address her later).
Was Jesus a Copy of Mithras?
Ancient art depicting Mithras being born out of a rock.
Zeitgeist continues as do the skeptics with the idea that Christianity itself is a copy of the cult of Mithras, which was popularized in Rome in the 1st to 4th Century AD (note that it sprung up in Rome after the death of Christ and centuries after the Old Testament prophecies of the Coming Messiah). The movie states:
“Mithras was born of a virgin” — There are almost no early writings about the cult of Mithras and most of what is known is based on artwork (as opposed to Jesus Christ, of whom thousands of ancient manuscripts exist that describe His life, death and resurrection in detail). But according to historians, Mithras was born from a rock, not from a virgin or from a person at all.
“Mithras was born on December 25.” — Once again, the date of December 25th is not mentioned in the Bible and thus holds no significance to the story of Jesus Christ. Additionally, in Mithraism there is no date of Mithras’ birth.
Mithras with “shepherds.”
“Mithras was attended to by Shepherds” — This claim is based on the relief above. The earliest existing account of Mithras’ birth is found in a relief depicting him emerging from a rock with the assistance of men who certainly appear to be shepherds (which is interesting considering his birth was supposed to have preceded the creation of humans!). Such a blatant inconsistency should show a serious flaw in Mithraism research, but the Zeitgeist team again overlooks this. Furthermore, this relief dates to 4th century A.D., well after the Gospels had been written and distributed over most of the known world.
Mithras and his “12 disciples.”
“Mithra had 12 disciples.” — This is based on the carving above which shows Mithras surrounded by 12 signs of the Zodiac. There is no reason to conclude that signs of the Zodiac are “disciples.” Remember, there is no written record of Mithra’s existence from the 1st to 4th centuries when the cult thrived. The earliest writings are from outsiders recording their observations. So most of the wild assertions of Zeitgeist are just being based on this piece of art. Franz Cumont, considered the first great researcher of Mithras claimed that the disciples in the relief were actually people dressed up as Zodiac signs, showing how ludicrous the effort to link Mithras to Jesus can get.
“Mithras was crucified. Dead for three days. And then resurrected.” — This charge in particular reveals the insincerity of the claims of plagiarism against Christianity. In Mithraism, Mithras never dies. He completed his earthly mission and returned to the skies in a chariot (ironically similar to the story of the Prophet Elijah in the Bible’s Book of 1 Kings, written 800 years earlier). In Mithraism there is no historical mention of crucifixion, burial or resurrection in any artwork or text. In a critique of this theory, researcher Ronald Nash writes:
It is also important to note that for all of the research Franz Cumont did on Mithras, his overriding conclusion was that unlike Jesus Christ, who was a real person, Mithras did not exist. Thus a basic examination of the factual evidence shows that the Bible did not plagiarize from the story of Mithras.
Was Jesus Christ an Imitation of Dionysis?
Dionysus the Greco Roman god of wine.
Dionysus (also known as Bacchus) was a Greek and Roman god of wine. One of the boldest claims of Jesus being a copy of Dionsyus was a book called ‘The Jesus Mysteries’ which featured the amulet pictured below. on its cover. The authors claimed that the amulet was a depiction of the god Dionysus on a cross, and thus, they concluded, Christianity must have copied the crucifixion account from the Greek god. However, upon basic scrutiny, the claim falls apart.
Dionysus pictured on a cross.
The authors of “The Jesus Mysteries” Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy had their sources for their information critiqued:
No honest scholar would simply fail to quote this vitally important contradiction to their thesis. Gandy did attempt to explain away this passage when it was presented to him but failed utterly and certainly could not say why he ever felt he could simply miss it out of his book. (source)
Even if the amulet was real, it’s dated to over 300 years after the crucifixion of Christ. By the 4th century tens of thousands of New Testament manuscripts were in circulation all over the world and the Roman Empire made Christianity its official religion. So the story of Christ’s crucifixion was very well-known. Thus the idea that a 4th century amulet was the inspiration for the Crucifixion in the Gospel’s makes no sense. We cited the Roman historian Tacitus who in 115 AD wrote:
So again, the account of Jesus’ crucifixion at the orders of Pontius Pilate, just as the Bible details, was well-known even in non-Christian circles.
“Dionysus was born of a virgin” — Again, this blatantly flies in the face of mythology surrounding this pagan god. The two most common stories of Dionysus’ birth involve the god Zeus, his father, either impregnating the mortal woman Semele, or impregnating Persephone (the Greek Queen of the underworld). In either instance, it is not a virgin birth (and it also gives allusion to the Bible’s description of fallen angels impregnating human women, something written in the book of Genesis 2,000 years before the myth of Dionysus).
“Dionsysus was born on December 25th” — Once again, there is no pre-Christian manuscript or evidence of this. And of course the date of December 25th is not significant since it’s not in the Bible. Some point to Dionysus’ ability to create wine as a sign that Jesus was a copy (since Jesus turned water to wine at a wedding) but Dionysus was the god of wine. Jesus was the Son of God and humanity’s Savior. And while there is non-Christian evidence and proof that Jesus existed, there is none to support that Dionysus was a real person who actually existed. And Jesus Christ was clearly not a copy of Dionysus.
Was Jesus Christ a Copy of Krishna?
The Hindu God Krishna.
As the Devine Evidence blog states:
Zeitgeist Debunked
“Krishna was born of a virgin named Devaki” — The basic story of Krishna’s origin makes this claim laughable: In mythology researcher Joseph Campbell’s book, Occidental Mythology, he writes of Krishna’s origin:
So from the basic origin story of Krishna, his mother had seven children before he was born, so she was clearly not a virgin. Additionally, the book of Isaiah, which prophesied that a virgin would give birth to the Messiah of the Bible, was written 700 years before Christ and at least 100 years before Krishna.
“There was Infant massacre in all the land at the time of Krishna’s birth” – In the Gospel accounts, King Herod, upon hearing the Jewish Messiah has been born, orders all Jewish male infants to be killed. Skeptics claim a similar occurrence happened with Krishna but as the account above shows, only his six brothers were killed.
“Krishna was crucified. Died for three days. And was resurrected.” – This again is just a blatant mistruth in the face of Hindu mythology. The explanation of Krishna’s death is stated clearly: ”
Not only was Krishna not crucified, his story sounds much more familiar to the account of the death of Achilles in Greek mythology than the account of Jesus’ crucifixion.
There are later Hindu texts that do draw more close parallels between Jesus Christ and Krishna. But these texts were written centuries after the New Testament. In fact, the Bahagavad Gita, one of the main Holy Books of Hinduism, is now thought by Hindu scholars to have been drastically changed in 800 AD. The present day Bahagavad Gita has 700 verses. The original, called Gita had 84 (imagine the documentaries and books that would be made if it were discovered that the Bible went through such a drastic re-write!). In the book, The Gita As It Was: Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita, the author, Dr. Phulgenda Sinha, writes:
Jesus is clearly not an imitation of Krishna and the Bible did not plagiarize pagan gods. Unlike the New Testament, which has been verified by manuscript evidence to be the most reliable and substantiated document in antiquity, the holy book of Hinduism went through drastic changes centuries after it was written. But of course, the Zeitgesit producers, Acharya S. and Dan Brown ignore all of this just to try to attack the credibility of the Bible. Why? Because they hate the Bible and want to push a Satanic agenda.
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You can say all those things to the true god Ra before he casts his judgement on you. No need to appeal to me; I am not the decision-maker here.
People worshipped Ra thousands years before the word "Bible" even existed in any language, and their empire was the longest standing in the history of humanity. Draw your own conclusions. Be careful as to not get burned by your zeal, which may very well be misdirected.
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Fair enough, I repent. What now? Do I get the blissful eternity with 70 unclothed ladies? Oh, sorry, wrong religion.
In seriousness though, my goddess is Waukeen. Perhaps I will live and die in futility, but I will live and die rich, so cannot complain too much!
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What does labeling as a troll, do to enhance your pro Atheist teachings?
"main motive here is to troll btw, which I am sure you've figured that out already. His next trolling scheme is to either say multiple people are off-topic even when they're not, to ask needless repeated questions, and/or then say something like you only see things the way you do when you don't agree with him or hold some other alternative view.
That's as far as his argument's go and anyone with a half-inch brain cell can spot that from a mile off."
@ZeusAres42
I'm voluntarily attending your pro Atheist teachings, to educate myself on your ways of how you address the Public.
Thank you, for not letting the public down.
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I’m not American you insufferably creature , how come Bible Belt yokels like you assume everyone is American and anyone who’s not is “ A goddamned Commie”
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"I know this because I believe what Jesus has said."
You're saying you know because you believe...that's not how knowledge works. That would be like saying "I know Bob's car is invisible because I believe what he said". If what someone says doesn't conform to reality (souls/the afterlife/logically impossible beings), then no amount of belief will make it true.
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What proof do you have that this will occur?
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What proof do yo unadvertised that this will happen?
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What proof do yo unadvertised that this will happen?
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I hope you find the PBJ (peace, beauty, joy), and until then there are people who are willing to help you through your fears. Reach out.
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Acting out of fear is a sure way to get to a very miserable place in life. Successful people act despite the fear that they may fail. In fact, the most successful people in the world will tell you that they seek fear intentionally, because the biggest opportunities for growth lay far outside of one's comfort zone.
Christian fundamentalism seem to have its roots in fear. Just like any other totalitarian ideology, it comes not from the place of love and happiness, but from the place of fear that people who are not controlled enough are going to hurt you. You scare gullible people into submission by threatening them with a horrible fate in the afterlife. You have to do it, because your version of Christianity does not have anything else to offer. You cannot say, "Come here, we have cookies", because Christianity has never been able to produce any cookies. So you have to say instead, "If you do not come here, we will come after you".
Your time has gone. People no longer resonate with your threats. Nowadays we like living in comfort, loving our partners and working towards positive goals. We are not the powerless and hopeless peasants you could coerce into anything 800 years ago. That is why fewer and fewer young people go to churches; there is nothing there for them to find, but doom and gloom.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not.
An example of psychosis would be that you have audio-visual hallucinations and believe that they are real. You cannot distinguish between the real world and your mind playing tricks on you.
Atheism is not psychosis. Atheism is the belief that no God exists, or denial of the existence of God. This may be considered a psychosis by strong believers in God, but atheists may equally consider belief in God to be a psychosis.
So maybe we are all psychotic. I do not believe that atheism is a psychosis of the mind.
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Atheism is not an answer, nor is it a response, based on an evaluation of atheism in a world that is dictated by reality
Reality is defined as
Reality:all of what is real or exists
Logically, reality excludes a possible alertnative, contrary to what exists.
I can tell, as I have ,t none of you are capable of logical deduction or logical problem solving.
First, you're problem lies in the concept of what you define as religion or religious, not even having the basic understanding of what defines religion.
Religion, stems from the Greek word religio meaning deep contemplation or thought.
Thoughts are not
1. A source of Knowledge because thoughts are based on a lack of knowledge in the instance of a religion
Thoughts,are
limited to the range of expierience that is common to all people therefore, the possibility that the perception of anything, that exists outside the boundary of reality,
Is first impossible
2.is defined as fallacy and in the case of atheism defines it as utter stupidity.
based on the actual definition of religion, anything that is based on deep contemplation or thought is subject to the definition of religion.
Because there is no scientific method to determine what happened 4 billion years ago, you can not assert knowledge within a timeframe that has no evidence to base an assertion
There is no knowledge or documentation of what happened in the beggining of the world outside of Genesis in the Bible
Assuming what happened because atheists have a world view that the false idea of evolution is the cause of human life, defines any assertion, assumption, or theory to be defined as religion based on the definition of religion.
The problem with you people who have BRICKS for heads is that
Christianity is based on events and not defined as religion
Because Christianity is based on events, and events are related to reality which
is defined as all of what is real or exists,
events dictate that there is no alternative other than what has happened.
Religious diversity is a complete fallacy in a world that has a single God (Jesus Christ) and single cause .
The theory of evolution or atheism can not even be presupposed, as
The theory of evolution is contradicted by all known physical laws and a standard understanding of biology.
You can not assert that a natural process, that is the result of physics or physical laws can extend beyond the laws that define or are related to a cause you assert.
Second you can not be an atheist, in any sense, because it is not a probable deduction, it only suggests stupidity in the face of fact.
I've stated it many times.
The universe could not have always existed because it is subject to the process of time and relative to time. Time as associated with anything, begins, it is not spontaneous
Therefore
Anything that is subject to time can not have always existed.ive explained it with equations and none of you can understand them, which makes providing you an explanation useless
Obviously,
Natural causes are limited by physical laws
. That creates an infinity paradox ,in an morons line of reasoning where everything that exists if you exclude God,
exists subject to the standard of the existence of another cause. The concept is fallacy because within the paradox logically,nothing ever begins to exist because nothing can exist outside of a cause that has none.
There is no special circumstance that defines the possibility of what does not exist, in order that the circumstance can be related to the cause of human existence as in the case of what atheists attempt to associate as the cause of human existence fallaciously.
atheists bypass all logical steps in reasoning and between the gaps associate imagination.
The entire scientific communitys approach is retarted.
They built a particle collider to accelerate particles so that when they collide, they separate into the smaller fragments of matter.
First, how do they even associate that could reveal anything about the cause of existence, if anything it only determines the anatomical structure of matter
Scientists hope to find something that can cause existence and the entire theory is retarted because it exists as a molecular structure independent of it's cause
atheists are psychotically delusional, their fear of Jesus drives them into a search for some silver lining that they can use and all tests actual reveal that it's a waste of time because everything reveals God exists.
When you conduct a test that reveals Jesus exists, and then attempt to conduct a test that he does not it isn't even possible to begin attempting to try to change what is real or exists.
I've debated many of you, and you're cowards. None of you can have a legitimate debate, none of you can contradict any scientific evidence, all you do is act retarted in the hope some rude comment is going to bother me as if I care about dealing with children. You ignore children as they have no value to add to a discussion.
None of you ever argue logical deductions, you simply attempt to try to logically create an argument that pressuposes something's possible that's not.
You listen to people in lab coats who haven't significantly contributed anything. If you've tracked science for the last twenty years, they've only continued failing.
Scientists have failed in the 13 century,
14th century
15 16 17 and 18th century.
If you did any research , nothing you people associate as a scientific achievement is scientific at all!
You morons assume that roads, modern medicine, televisions, computers, and everything else was created by scientists.
Most modern medicine was created with people who have the iq of about a rock using different types of plants in the attempt to cure illness. Roads were the result of half-retarted people in a Forrest who simply drew conclusions on how to mix different types of cedement, electricity was discovered by accident
The retard Benjamin Franklin flew a kite
Everything has never had an intelligent beggining and when you actual learn about something it shows how people are not smart. To think it took people 2000 years to develope simple devices that you somehow drool over because you assume the device is complex is absurd.
Atheists are completely dumb. And the problem with dumb people is they do not have the capacity to realize it. An atheists mind does not function with the capacity to self-evaluate.
Second, half of the scientists of the past were psychotic anyway.
It's one thing to hear about Albert Einstein talk about how everyone's a genius and try to flatter people and realize he designed a weapon that killed millions of people for the sole purpouse of their annihilation.
Generally if a person knows something that could cause harm their first idea is not to tell anyone, only psychopaths decide to end millions of peoples lives.
The last thing is for someone who understands science, almost every scientists lies through their mouth. In a group setting with an audience they always use words they assume people don't understand, such as in the case of bill nye, who literally said without the scientific jargon, because protons have a positive charge it's impossible that God exists.
When you literally break down what a scientist says it's no wonder they draw the most , retarted conclusion and somehow because an engineer desighned a TV there's some social proof scientists are smart.
Stop associating the achievements of people who design things with a scientific community that hasn't contributed anything other than the 100 versions of alchemy.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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This is what religion has been doing, sometimes using lethal force, for thousands of years. If fact, there are still parts of the world you can still be killed or jailed for not following the state sponsored religion.
Let's compare these two: informing people on the internet about the lies and deception they have been raised with vs. actively killing people for following a different religion or none at all.
Which of these is the greater evil? Religion is a very credible threat to both freedom and human rights. Keep in mind, many of these countries are the same as the ones where many of those illegal drugs are grown in the first place. The most secular countries tend to be the happiest and most peaceful. Unlike the fear pushed by religion, which is not provable in any way the view of atheists is substantiated and based in reality.
Of course, slaves to religion don't notice how they are being lead on, and at times instructed to do things they wouldn't normally do.
Only religion, can make a good person do an evil thing!
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
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It is a bit of a false equivalence to equate political killings to religious ones isn't it?
I mean, if we play by your rules, then the death toll of Christianity is 82.069 to 106.734 million deaths, placing it firmly in second place just under Islam in your list.
However, if we exclude political killings and only focus on killings done specifically because of Christianity, this number drops to between 9 and 28 million.
And the number of people killed in the name of humanism? 0. It's 0. Nothing. Value null. Never has anyone been killed in the name of nothing.
No matter how you cut it, religion is more deadly, and should be put an end to.
Also, Hitler was not socialist, he was fascist, and it is arguable that the USSR wasn't really communist, but state-capitalist.
Humanist values > Christian values!
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But since you are unwilling to accept that one simple fact, then perhaps you would accept that 10's or maybe even 100's of thousands of people were killed during and after the reformation, both Protestants killing Catholics and vice versa.
And of course no one can forget all the witch burning, and the systematic murder of indigenous tribes by colonization.
Interestingly, one of the biggest detractors of the inquisition and what seems like the only thing slowing down the systematic murder from the church for religious ideas, was the humanist movement from that started during the Renaissance.
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I did not expect you to employ the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. By the same token, anyone can say that all those deaths you listed, actually, were not done by real communists, Nazis or Muslims. Which would be ridiculous, you realise.
Is it not convenient how you redefined the term "Christian" to fit your narrative of religion of peace? That is what all totalitarians always do. "Not real communism", "not real socialism", "not real Nazism", "not real fascism", "not real Islam", "not real Christianity"... Whenever you hear "not true X-ism", you know blood and starvation are inbound.
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have we just forgotten about the crusades?
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