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Should school uniforms be mandatory?
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By PoguePogue 504 Pts
Should school uniforms be mandatory? 

should-used to indicate obligation or duty
mandatory-required by law or rules; compulsory.
school uniform-uniform wore by students primarily for a school or otherwise educational institution. 
  1. Should school uniforms be mandatory?

    10 votes
    1. Ye
      50.00%
    2. Na
      50.00%
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  • someone234someone234 542 Pts
    edited March 11
    I say yes.

    I will of course use the classic killer point that rich kids cannot easily taunt and bully poorer kids if all are forced to wear the same 'brand' (outside of sports class).

    There are two more points to consider.

    • In the working world, while uniform itself is in few careers, the partial wearing of clothes (especially clothe-types) that you have to either wear or get fired for not wearing is extremely commonplace and preparing children mentally for wearing things they'd rather not wear is important in preparing them for the 'real world of work'.
    • This is a flip-side of the former point but all the jobs where you're free to wear what you want, rarely ever require good grades at that line of work and therefore school doesn't need to bother preparing you for the freedom, freedom is something you'll naturally crave if you're drawn to freelance and/or work-for-yourself type of work.
    Fascism
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  • agsragsr 818 Pts
    I am not a fan of uniforms.  I believe in a dress code, but not a uniform. That's actually more realistic prep for the future, as many professional jobs leave it upto you what you wear within constraints.  Choosing what to wear is actually an important decision how you show up in a real workplace. What you wear to work matters and often impacts perception.  Kids should start to learn about that early.  
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  • FascismFascism 304 Pts
    I believe in uniforms due to the reasons that @someone234 pointed out, but I think they shouldn't be extremely strict, just like in a usual work place where everyone isn't wearing the same exact thing. 
  • NopeNope 324 Pts
    My school used to have school uniforms every day except on Friday which was a day that you could where anything within a dress code.
  • Good posts, but why do schools enforce school uniforms, and where are they coming from when making such decisions? Schools in Mexico require uniforms whereas most schools in America do not. Sure, you have your school attire, say a band shirt or a university logo, but because we value freedom of expression, maybe that is why schools don't enforce this rule. 
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  • @WilliamSchulz America has much less freedom of expression than a nation like Mexico. That was quite a bad example to bring up.

    In Mexico you can basically type anything you want online as well as do a lot of things from graffiti to saying 'i want to kill politician X, Y or Z' and have no backlash.

    Sure, you can't speak out against local drug lords or Christianity but if you avoid just those two things you have total freedom of expression.
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  • @WilliamSchulz America has much less freedom of expression than a nation like Mexico. That was quite a bad example to bring up.

    In Mexico you can basically type anything you want online as well as do a lot of things from graffiti to saying 'i want to kill politician X, Y or Z' and have no backlash.

    Sure, you can't speak out against local drug lords or Christianity but if you avoid just those two things you have total freedom of expression.
    That may be true, but although you have total freedom of expression, that doesn't make it good expression. In Mexico, complete freedom allows a person to write, speak, and act profanely in a way that is not present in the United States. While we have freedom of expression, we control it with certain rules so that it does not get out of control bad. In this way, I say we have more freedom of expression because there is respect, dignity, and genuinity in most works, and those that don't are stopped by the government. After all, we have freedom of speech, but we can not slander another individual.
    A good debate is not judged by bias, but in the context of the debate, where objectivity is key and rationale prevalent. 


  • @WilliamSchulz America has much less freedom of expression than a nation like Mexico. That was quite a bad example to bring up.

    In Mexico you can basically type anything you want online as well as do a lot of things from graffiti to saying 'i want to kill politician X, Y or Z' and have no backlash.

    Sure, you can't speak out against local drug lords or Christianity but if you avoid just those two things you have total freedom of expression.
    That may be true, but although you have total freedom of expression, that doesn't make it good expression. In Mexico, complete freedom allows a person to write, speak, and act profanely in a way that is not present in the United States. While we have freedom of expression, we control it with certain rules so that it does not get out of control bad. In this way, I say we have more freedom of expression because there is respect, dignity, and genuinity in most works, and those that don't are stopped by the government. After all, we have freedom of speech, but we can not slander another individual.
    So, from the perspective of an actual mexican here: 

    @WilliamSchulz ; We do not have 'complete' freedom as you say, we also cannot slander other individuals, people can actually sue someone for slandering or defamation. The fact that people never actually do it, because there is a lot of corruption and people don't usually have enough money to hire a lawyer for such things, is another issue. Also, the fact that there are works that are respectful, dignified and genuine is not just something that exists in the US, just because you think that mexicans are disrespectful, undignified and not genuine, doesn't mean that it's a fact. In every single country in the world there are people with these positive qualities, while at the same time there are people with the opposite qualities. So please let's not attribute such qualities to a whole population or country just because of your personal impressions.

    @someone234 we can totally speak out against drug lords and Christianity, you just have to prepared to face the consequences if you choose to do so. And people who write stuff saying "I want to kill politician X, Y or Z" don't get backlash because, let's just say that the police force or government systems are not as tight here as they are in the US, or are not as efficient. 

    Now, schools in Mexico have the choice to ask their students to wear a uniform or not to. For example in my school, like I mentioned before, there were somedays of the week that we didn't have to use our uniform. The rule was that we had to attend school wearing our uniform on mondays for the flag ceremonies and on days we had P.E which could vary between 2 or three times a week. The other days we were free to bring clothes that were within the school's regulations, meaning no ripped jeans, no short short, short or mini skirt, cleavage (for women/girls), also no piercings, visible tattoos, etc.  

    Most public schools requiere uniforms, while private schools can choose between uniforms or no uniforms. 
    Fascismsomeone234
  • FascismFascism 304 Pts
    @MajoMILSdlGMGV Lol. That's more freedom of speech than in the US as of now. I'm not talking in context of the law, but in context of how the society reacts. 
    MajoMILSdlGMGV
  • @Fascism Well, yeah I agree. The United States is in a tough situation at the moment and I truly hope that it improves.
  • @WilliamSchulz America has much less freedom of expression than a nation like Mexico. That was quite a bad example to bring up.

    In Mexico you can basically type anything you want online as well as do a lot of things from graffiti to saying 'i want to kill politician X, Y or Z' and have no backlash.

    Sure, you can't speak out against local drug lords or Christianity but if you avoid just those two things you have total freedom of expression.
    That may be true, but although you have total freedom of expression, that doesn't make it good expression. In Mexico, complete freedom allows a person to write, speak, and act profanely in a way that is not present in the United States. While we have freedom of expression, we control it with certain rules so that it does not get out of control bad. In this way, I say we have more freedom of expression because there is respect, dignity, and genuinity in most works, and those that don't are stopped by the government. After all, we have freedom of speech, but we can not slander another individual.
    So, from the perspective of an actual mexican here: 

    @WilliamSchulz ; We do not have 'complete' freedom as you say, we also cannot slander other individuals, people can actually sue someone for slandering or defamation. The fact that people never actually do it, because there is a lot of corruption and people don't usually have enough money to hire a lawyer for such things, is another issue. Also, the fact that there are works that are respectful, dignified and genuine is not just something that exists in the US, just because you think that mexicans are disrespectful, undignified and not genuine, doesn't mean that it's a fact. In every single country in the world there are people with these positive qualities, while at the same time there are people with the opposite qualities. So please let's not attribute such qualities to a whole population or country just because of your personal impressions.

    @someone234 we can totally speak out against drug lords and Christianity, you just have to prepared to face the consequences if you choose to do so. And people who write stuff saying "I want to kill politician X, Y or Z" don't get backlash because, let's just say that the police force or government systems are not as tight here as they are in the US, or are not as efficient. 

    Now, schools in Mexico have the choice to ask their students to wear a uniform or not to. For example in my school, like I mentioned before, there were somedays of the week that we didn't have to use our uniform. The rule was that we had to attend school wearing our uniform on mondays for the flag ceremonies and on days we had P.E which could vary between 2 or three times a week. The other days we were free to bring clothes that were within the school's regulations, meaning no ripped jeans, no short short, short or mini skirt, cleavage (for women/girls), also no piercings, visible tattoos, etc.  

    Most public schools requiere uniforms, while private schools can choose between uniforms or no uniforms. 
    I am not calling Mexicans ungeniune or undignified, I was simply stating that because of the presence and the power held by the drug lords and other terrorist groups, that Mexico's speech among citizens is silenced and unheard compared to the people in power. In that way, the US has more freedom of speech because our government has power over these types of groups thus giving us more opportunities for our voice to be heard. There are certain rules that restrict the speech, but that is to make sure that Mexico's situation does not carry over here. 
    someone234
    A good debate is not judged by bias, but in the context of the debate, where objectivity is key and rationale prevalent. 


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