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• Is Religion a Mental Illness?

  just_sayin

  April 25

  Factfinder said:

  @RickeyHoltsclaw
  
  Spoken like a true ignorant christian.
  
  
  

  I see you are upholding Celsus.  You know he said that Jesus performed miracles right?  Tell me, was he 'reveling in his ignorance' or was the evidence so strong that Jesus preformed miracles he couldn't deny it?
  

  

• Does Morality Mean "Obeying Gods"?

  Joeseph

  April 24
  @Factfinder
  
  I see his latest claim is that we are angry because deep down we know the truth .....the guy is comedy gold.

  

• "Unfair universe" paradox

  xlJ_dolphin_473

  April 24

  RickeyHoltsclaw said:

  Who suggested the Universe is founded upon fairness, equity or that these are somehow relevant in our Creator's divine plan?
  

  Let's suppose you're right, and the universe is founded neither upon fairness nor equity. To me that seems stronger evidence against the existence of a God than for it.

  

• Does lenient law enforcement foment crime? Does harsh enforcement reduce crime?

  MichaelElpers

  April 24
  @jack
  
  Let me ask. Would you be more or less likely to steal if there is no consequence, small fine, jail time, death sentence?
  
  
  

  

• Who's more authoritarian, liberals, or conservatives?

  Factfinder

  April 23
  @MayCaesar
  
  You make a good point as well. My response focused on the liberal aspect as I'm sure they'd like to steer their party away from wokeism and back to traditional liberal values. And the woke agenda was what I thought @ZeusAres42 centered his post on.
  
  The conservative side are pretty united against the woke movement but have their issues with staunch hard right maga followers who've taken their party to the extreme in other ways. Mainly a cult like belief Trump does no wrong.
  
  Sure both sides could right their ships but the potential progress that could have been made instead will be delayed. 

  

• Who's more authoritarian, liberals, or conservatives?

  Factfinder

  April 23

  ZeusAres42 said:

  @Factfinder
  
  I was thinking that in terms of this woke stuff, it's interesting to find noteworthy people who all agree with how bad this is. After someone on Discord recently stated things about James Lindsey and other people like him and how they tried to discredit them, I went to find out what these other people's views were, and they are all the same or at least very similar:
  

  • Richard Dawkins
  • Steven Pinker
  • Steven Fry
  • Sam Harris
  • Michael Shermer
    
  • Bret Weinstein
  • Eric Weinstein
  • Jordan Person
  • John McWhorter
    
  • Bari Weiss
  • Douglas Murray
    
  • James Lindsey
  • Peter Boghossian
  • Helen Pluckrose
  • Ben Shapiro
  • Piers Morgan
  • Heather Heying
    
  • Debra Soh
    
  • Jerry Coyne
    

  This list is not exhaustive. It contains people of differing political affiliations, some of which have been seen in debates on things they profoundly disagree about. One thing they all agree on, though, is about how volatile this woke ideology is! 
  
  I don't rely on them to make my mind up; I also evaluate content—what they write and the literature they criticise. I found it interesting that all these individuals have the same stance regarding this! And that is every single one of them! 

  I think it could be a tribute to the powers of self preservation. People of all affiliations are recognizing the threat to society if wokism is allowed to get a strong enough hold to run it's course completely. We'd no longer be a civilized society. However I do not believe liberals are turning to conservatism in these cases. It's more about taking back control of their party and movements. 

  

• Do you believe Trump has the strength of character to be trusted with the nuclear codes?

  MayCaesar

  April 23
  Whatever you think of Trump's moral integrity and policies, he certainly does not lack the strength of character. It takes iron guts to be criticized by thousands of media outlets in the harshest way possible, yet not change one's behavior an inch.
  
  Trump also consistently pushes for non-interventionism, advocating for the focus on domestic policies. Him deciding to launch the nukes out of the blue is not a plausible scenario. He is a ruthless businessman at his core, not a cackling madman.
  

  

• Why the Democrat-Progressive-Communist Party of the United States must be eradicated as moral rot?

  jack

  April 23

  RickeyHoltsclaw said:

  "Discernment," when dealing with arrogant, unlawful, turds-atheists in a law enforcement capacity is not at issue...the "facts" are at issue....the "law" is at issue....the enforcement entity is bound by these parameters and their elements of definition. Why are you so ignorant concerning these matters?
  

  
  

  Hello Rickey:

  
  

  Knowing you, as we do, both factfinder and myself, are convinced beyond any reasonable doubt, that a person with your attitudes absolutely could not discern justice from tyranny..

  
  

  I ask you again, how many turds did you put away cause they were turds?
  

  
  

  Du*de!
  

  
  

  excon
  

  

• Who's more authoritarian, liberals, or conservatives?

  MichaelElpers

  April 22
  @MayCaesar
  
  "To clarify, the authoritarian element here is not the elders disagreeing with the lad's idea, but the reasoning behind it: "You are too young, what do you know? Things are working this way for a reason". The lad's input is deemed irrelevant not because of its merit, but because of the lad "not knowing his place"
  
  Right but your example requires that the existing element trying to be conserved is holding authority.
  If presently there is anarchy or less authority resistance to change is resistance to authoritarianism.
  
  Take for example free speech.  Those currently trying to conserve the current view of the first amendment are resisting against further authoritarian hate speech or censorship.
  If the sole argument is because "thats how its only been" you are commiting an authority fallacy but the result is less governmental authority.
  
  Therefore conservatism or resistance to change only constitutes authoritarianism if the idea being conserved is appealing to holding onto increased authority.

  

• Gay at birth?

  Factfinder

  April 22

  just_sayin said:

  ZeusAres42 said:

  @just_sayin
  
  One thing I do have for you, though, is a challenge: Find someone to whom you are not physically (it doesn't matter what sex) attracted and then choose to be physically attracted to them for a week. Then, choose to be physically no longer attracted to them. 
  
  Remember, this isn't about engaging in behaviour but physical attraction. Since you see these two concepts as the same thing anyway, this challenge shouldn't be too hard for you. 

  The research I pointed to included specific details about how attraction is fluid as well as the other 3 aspects of sexual orientation.  
  
  I am always interested in debating, but I just don't have any interest in being personally attacked. 

  So you can't change? How is asking you to personally demonstrate your claims as true a personal attack?