I see you are upholding Celsus. You know he said that Jesus performed miracles right? Tell me, was he 'reveling in his ignorance' or was the evidence so strong that Jesus preformed miracles he couldn't deny it?Factfinder said:
Let's suppose you're right, and the universe is founded neither upon fairness nor equity. To me that seems stronger evidence against the existence of a God than for it.RickeyHoltsclaw said:Who suggested the Universe is founded upon fairness, equity or that these are somehow relevant in our Creator's divine plan?
I think it could be a tribute to the powers of self preservation. People of all affiliations are recognizing the threat to society if wokism is allowed to get a strong enough hold to run it's course completely. We'd no longer be a civilized society. However I do not believe liberals are turning to conservatism in these cases. It's more about taking back control of their party and movements.ZeusAres42 said:@Factfinder
I was thinking that in terms of this woke stuff, it's interesting to find noteworthy people who all agree with how bad this is. After someone on Discord recently stated things about James Lindsey and other people like him and how they tried to discredit them, I went to find out what these other people's views were, and they are all the same or at least very similar:This list is not exhaustive. It contains people of differing political affiliations, some of which have been seen in debates on things they profoundly disagree about. One thing they all agree on, though, is about how volatile this woke ideology is!
- Richard Dawkins
- Steven Pinker
- Steven Fry
- Sam Harris
- Michael Shermer
- Bret Weinstein
- Eric Weinstein
- Jordan Person
- John McWhorter
- Bari Weiss
- Douglas Murray
- James Lindsey
- Peter Boghossian
- Helen Pluckrose
- Ben Shapiro
- Piers Morgan
- Heather Heying
- Debra Soh
- Jerry Coyne
I don't rely on them to make my mind up; I also evaluate content—what they write and the literature they criticise. I found it interesting that all these individuals have the same stance regarding this! And that is every single one of them!
RickeyHoltsclaw said:"Discernment," when dealing with arrogant, unlawful, turds-atheists in a law enforcement capacity is not at issue...the "facts" are at issue....the "law" is at issue....the enforcement entity is bound by these parameters and their elements of definition. Why are you so ignorant concerning these matters?
So you can't change? How is asking you to personally demonstrate your claims as true a personal attack?just_sayin said:The research I pointed to included specific details about how attraction is fluid as well as the other 3 aspects of sexual orientation.ZeusAres42 said:@just_sayin
One thing I do have for you, though, is a challenge: Find someone to whom you are not physically (it doesn't matter what sex) attracted and then choose to be physically attracted to them for a week. Then, choose to be physically no longer attracted to them.
Remember, this isn't about engaging in behaviour but physical attraction. Since you see these two concepts as the same thing anyway, this challenge shouldn't be too hard for you.
I am always interested in debating, but I just don't have any interest in being personally attacked.